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What's Diphenhydramine really like?

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Somethingelse3221

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only psychedelic subsrtances Ive tried are LSD, DXM, Pot, MDMA (sorta trippy) & I think come downs from meth can be a little trippy. Anyways. Ive tried modest doses of DPH.
Oral Diphenhydramine Dosages
(Recreational)
Threshold 10 mg
Light 25-150 mg
Common 150-300 mg
Strong 250-500 mg
Heavy 400-700
LD50 (Lethal Dose*) 500 mg/kg in rats
listed by erowid as the doses. I think I took 150mg. Obviously im a little worried to take a strong dose as i dont wanna have a bad time. But i just felt really sleepy at 150mg sorta fell in and out of consciousness. Just felt like I was day dreaming a little.
What's it like to take 400mg+ of this stuff. Ive been told u actually forget that u took a substance. I dont really wanna try it as ive heard it has horrible side effects like RLS & dehydration. But I cant help but to be a little fascinated. From reports it seems that it's a step down from datura. Which is the stronger. Datura isnt something on my "to do" list. DPH would be obviously alot safer because u could titrate up ya dose. But what are the differences in effect compared to each other. Is DPH infant more dangerous to mess with?
I didnt have a bad experience at 150mg. & I wasnt even close to forgetting Id taken something or seeing OEV. I wouldnt call what I had CEVs either. more like falling on the verge of falling asleep. Would it be crazy the some of the strange ppl in the world could find Deliriant. Do u freak out and have a panix attack or do u just get strange visions & cant remember much or what?
...Just interested. take a read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deliriant
tobacco seems to be a deleriant. so u can get delerium from high doses of nicotine. weird.
 
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You'll get violently ill from the nicotine overdose before you get close to having delirium-like effects from tobacco. If you're doing to use nicotine, use it at low doses.

Diphenhydramine (DPH) is a tricky one. 125-150mg is where it starts becoming a deleriant. I'm going to move this over to Psychedelic Drugs - but before I do, I can tell you that DPH trips (if you could call it that) aren't usually an experience most people want to repeat. Some people like it. I don't. Amnesia was pronounced, as well as the usual anticholergic side effects of dry skin, dry mouth and throat, trouble urinating, vertigo, etc.

BDD --> PD
 
I have never tried high doses of Diphenhydramine as pretty much all the reports have been negative.

I only ever use 50mg at a time, either for Opiate potentiation and to stop the itchiness and very occassionally i will use 50mg on its own as a sleep aid with varying degrees of success.

I dont have experience with using it recreationally so i cant fairly say if its a good idea but the general consensus is that it is not a nice experience, but then again we're all wired differently so there maybe some out there who enjoy it, but from the information i have on it i would advise against using massive doses.

*I know that may sound hypocritical coming from me with regards to my Benzo abuse.
 
First Plateau: 80 mg - 250 mg: Noticable sedation, mild hypnotic effects. User will move at a much slower pace.
Second Plateau: 250 mg - 350 mg: Heavy sedation, moderate hypnotic effects. User may have the sensation that their limbs are much heavier. User may also experience mild hallucinations (i.e. "flickering"), but nothing too apparent.
Third Plateau: 350 mg - 450 mg: All the effects of second plateau but with intense hypnotic effects. In addition, the user may have moderate hallucinations of both a visual and auditory nature (i.e. hearing voices). Some anxiety may be present.
Fourth Plateau 450 mg +: All the effects of third plateau, but to a much higher degree. Moderate to vivid hallucinations are present (i.e. talking to people who aren't there). User may experience noticable anxiety/dysphoria. These effects become more apparent as dose increases.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/nk9cq/should_diphenhydramine_have_plateaus_like_with_dxm/

Some interesting info here.
 
Id personally down 300mg. Im a little crazy like that. Ive taken insane amounts of zolpidem before & had delerium. I had no problem taking a high dose of an antipsychotic with no tolerance. I take 200mg of diazepam sometimes. but i mean that is the coplete opposite effect. nice calm. normal. no worry. completely in control. Personally the worst experiences ive had with drugs are come downs. like taking heaps of meth, mdma, drinking & smoking pot. the next day ya just so exhausted. I hate that feeling & I dont drink anymore. If it feels like that than i dont wanna touch it. But last time I tried it in high doses to help me sleep & maybe feel a little trippy. it just felt like i was going in & out of sleep. I wouldnt like the sensation that im heavier but ive had that from antipsychotics before. It isnt so bad. eh i dont know. I dont have any anyways. Ive got a pack of doxylamine & some promethazine. & some quetiapine too. DPH seems more researched so i wouldnt try tripping from doxylamine. I think it has a MUCH LONGER halflife. I would wake up 24hrs later
 
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The only time I tried DPH I downed 600mg of Dramamine and certainly got the idea of what a deliriant is like. Confusion, random hallucinations every now and then (and I'm talking real hallucinations of seeing things that aren't there, as opposed to psychedelic visuals), and ultimately a heavy-eyed sleepiness that I had to give in to. Doubt I'll do it again-- I think I'll stick with psychs.
 
It's the only thing that's made me convinced I was seeing stuff. I recall running into my backyard at night because I saw a rhino and bunnies or something and I wanted to check it out. And the walls in my room became covered with ghostly spider webs.

Totally different than a psychedelic experience. More like delirium. I'm usually not too concerned about causing a scene while on usual doses of something, but deliriants are another story.
 
I've taken 500mg on two occasions, and I wouldn't call either experience "fun." Well, the first 30 minutes were, before I lost my short term memory. I'll describe one of these "trips."


20 25mg tablets of diphenhydramine were downed with a glass of cold water. Their effects took approximately thirty minutes to manifest.

It began with a slight dissociation of my mind from my body. A glass of water drawn to my mouth seemed to arrive too late, nearly resulting in spillage. My body felt heavier, but numb. Slight euphoria was present at this stage.

Intense dry mouth permeated the entire experience.

As things progressed, everything began to resemble old film. You know how old movies look: random scratches; brief flashes; 1-frame blobs of localized tonal variance; graininess. Throughout the course of that first hour of come up, my short term memory began to take a hit. It became so bad that I couldn't remember what I was doing just moments before. At one point my GF at the time called, and I spent a while talking to her. We would be on some topic, but I would suddenly switch right over to another one seamlessly and without realizing I was doing so, until told. This, of course, was cause for concern on her part, considering her anti-drug sentiments.

After hanging up the phone, I spent the rest of the evening just being out of it and trying to draw. My skills were highly degraded. I think I still have that picture somewhere, though I'm not sure I would like share it: it's that bad :\

The visuals never progressed much beyond that old film look. I saw gray, web-like forms in dark areas (they actually resembled Datura stems, though it's probably only a coincidence). The flashes of light became more intense, resembling distant lightning. At no point did I forget I was on a drug, but considering my mental state, wished I had used something else. The euphoria had turned into dysphoria, this enhanced by my short attention span. I eventually called it a night and went to bed.


So there you have it. The negative mental effects (poor memory, reduced imagination) outweighed any recreational aspect of this drug by a long shot. The whole experience seems like chemically-induced Alzheimer's to me. I do think it's odd that I can remember the "trip" in its entirety, though.

Nowadays I just take 25-50mg before bed on occasion, or during the day if I need to calm myself down. It makes a decent oneirogenic compound, although the resultant dreams are often disturbing. It can also increase hypnagogic imagery, which is nice. All-in-all, I have no interest in using this drug in higher doses ever again :|
 
^Nice post.

OP, I would honestly take mecaib's and the other poster's advice here and steer clear of using diphenhydramine. From your original post, it looks like you've done some much better drugs (MDMA, LSD, cannabis, etc)...diphenhydramine, would, I imagine at least, be pretty disappointing for you.

Having tried diphenhydramine after trying real psychedelics (2C-I, then LSD, then mushrooms, etc) - diphenhydramine isn't fun at all. Your mileage may vary, a lot.
 
^true that. My trip on what my friends called "dyphen" was insane. I had multiple similar trips later on but none like my first. It was insane I believe I took half a bottle so 25 25 milligrams pills. 625mg?? Idk haha but it was a ton. I sat in my room completely dumbed out and drooling . I talked to many friends from old times like middle school and it all seemed natural. I was actually with a friend who was tripping with me but he was no different then my realistic delusions everywhere around me.

I can't fathom to this day how it was possible but I remember someshit very specifically. I was going to my iPod in a speaker dock to change the song.( there was nothing playing haha). I forgot why I was there immediately and somehow... I managed to read the list of song on mg iPod like a book. It just all made sense the words seemed in proper order and formed a logical narrative. Not really though but it seemed like it at the time. I finally realized what was happened in a moment of sobriety ( these come every so often in the trip. Your like woahhh what the fck was I just doing/thinking then u start tripping again quickly.) I looked at the iPod in disbelief then continued on my delirious way. Saw a ghost come out of my trash bin and attack ahaha crazyyyy time on benydril. I don't reccomend it unless your incredibly desperate and somewhat reckless...
 
I've never actually tripped on it, but too much diphen makes you really dehydrated. You can also be really tired/sleepy, but you can't get comfortable enough to fall asleep. You finally do, and you wake up feeling really hungover, and this feeling lasts well into the night or the next day. You might actually feel your liver attempting to escape from your body.
 
I wouldn't go as far to say that it is recreational. Personally it turns me into a sleep-hungry, irritable zombie whose skin and flesh feels weird and rubbery. Even the few times i abused it, I was so messed up and uncomfortable that I had difficulty just going to sleep. I would steer clear of DPH unless using it as a sleep-aid in not-so-heroic doses. BUT if one feels they must go for it, I would actually prefer Dramamine as the "visuals", or delirium better yet, are somewhat better. Best way to describe it is dreaming but being awake. Once I could've sworn I had gotten out of bed and walked to the kitchen for a glass of water, only to snap out of it (I wasn't asleep) and realize I was still on my bed. I was so confused because it felt so real.

Also just a random note, when my dad was in prison, he had a cell mate who loved DPH. He would munch down 400-600mg almost everyday and my dad said it was annoying because he would just turn into a catatonic idiot.
 
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Also just a random note, when my dad was in prison, he had a cell mate who loved DPH. He would munch down 400-600mg almost everyday and my dad said it was annoying because he would just turn into a catatonic idiot.
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If I were in prison--a place I never intend to visit, mind you--I'd love DPH too :\

Ismene said:
You'd be better just huffing some glue.
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Erowid said:
Erowid Warning: Our understanding of the literature is that there is no such thing as safe use of volatile solvents, aerosols and other street inhalants : their psychoactive effects are inseparable from nerve and organ damage. We have chosen to include these reports to help document the real world use of inhalants, but their inclusion is not intended to imply that they are anything but dangerous.
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Back in my seventeenth year of existence, I tried huffing gasoline a few times, and on one occasion, to excess. While it is a more interesting experience than talking an anticholinergic deliriant, it is by no means safe. I think you must have been joking ;)
 
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