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Regional Pill/MDMA Discussion - Vrs. I'm afraid your cheeks only have weeks to live..

jaydrog said:
Seen a report going up on pill reports for the white pentagrams
saying there is 146mg mdma in them i find this hard to believe
aload of people i know took them and said they were pish !
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i think thery said the white pill looks like the blue pentagrams which are 146mg.
 
SpecialK_ said:
Get them in ya! Been looking forward to hearing about these ones.
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Probably gonna get a couple in next week, wont be able to do them though straight away though as i got a mates party this saturday and i got 3 grams of lovely german crystal to share out
 
I havent dropped a pill since 94-95 do you still get the loved upped, tummy rushes etc with todays pills? I remember taking mdma towads the end of my using and they wernt the same. The mg's you are talking about 200+ is a very large amount like the ones we first use to get where you would sit and freak out dripping with sweat as they came on then bliss would come - do these tests knock out mdme and all the other analougues?
 
blondin said:
I havent dropped a pill since 94-95 do you still get the loved upped, tummy rushes etc with todays pills? I remember taking mdma towads the end of my using and they wernt the same. The mg's you are talking about 200+ is a very large amount like the ones we first use to get where you would sit and freak out dripping with sweat as they came on then bliss would come - do these tests knock out mdme and all the other analougues?
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Have any of these old 90's pills been tested? I'm always curious as to what the average spread was for them. Say for UK at the moment the pills that are in them plentiful are always about 100-140mg, nothing too strong but they give a good dunt. Then the rare ones are about 170mg+ but no higher than 240mg or so. I always find that it's the MDMA that makes that bliss feeling that everyone talks about, rather than the dose of the pill, different batches/synth routes as its been that way for me. I can't imagine all the pills being 200mg in the 90s, there are people about here who eat a red Ferrari and are collapsing on the dance floor, doses like that aren't for everyone.

Not wanting this to turn into one of those 'back in my day e's were well better' discussions, just curious if any of the old 90s ones were tested and the results are about anywhere like we have now? It's great how these days pretty much every pill is getting tested, even at times by a variety of people.

Also does anyone think those Q Dances from last year had possibly MDA in them? Reason being, supposedly Defcons are from same pressers, a bit more speculation to with the Orange Elephants and Purple Hearts. I've tried all of these as well as what's going about locally and none of them have been anywhere near as trippy as the Q Dances. But I've heard MDA has a bit more of an intense comeup and I didn't have that with the Q Dances, it's just it's been a long time since I've been talking to thin air and thinking all my mates are in striped pyjamas, so I'm wondering if it's my dose or it was just the contents? I'm pretty sure I had some crystal with the Q Dances though, so I am more so leaning towards it just being bigger doses back then and I've been just doing lower doses lately. But even big fat bombs of MDMA and speed didn't lead to the same result, I was fucked/blacking out, but none of the mad hallucinating.
 
SpecialK_ said:
Have any of these old 90's pills been tested? I'm always curious as to what the average spread was for them. Say for UK at the moment the pills that are in them plentiful are always about 100-140mg, nothing too strong but they give a good dunt. Then the rare ones are about 170mg+ but no higher than 240mg or so. I always find that it's the MDMA that makes that bliss feeling that everyone talks about, rather than the dose of the pill, different batches/synth routes as its been that way for me. I can't imagine all the pills being 200mg in the 90s, there are people about here who eat a red Ferrari and are collapsing on the dance floor, doses like that aren't for everyone.

Not wanting this to turn into one of those 'back in my day e's were well better' discussions, just curious if any of the old 90s ones were tested and the results are about anywhere like we have now? It's great how these days pretty much every pill is getting tested, even at times by a variety of people.

Also does anyone think those Q Dances from last year had possibly MDA in them? Reason being, supposedly Defcons are from same pressers, a bit more speculation to with the Orange Elephants and Purple Hearts. I've tried all of these as well as what's going about locally and none of them have been anywhere near as trippy as the Q Dances. But I've heard MDA has a bit more of an intense comeup and I didn't have that with the Q Dances, it's just it's been a long time since I've been talking to thin air and thinking all my mates are in striped pyjamas, so I'm wondering if it's my dose or it was just the contents? I'm pretty sure I had some crystal with the Q Dances though, so I am more so leaning towards it just being bigger doses back then and I've been just doing lower doses lately. But even big fat bombs of MDMA and speed didn't lead to the same result, I was fucked/blacking out, but none of the mad hallucinating.
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I believe MDMA > MDA conversion in the body hovers at around 3-5% I think. I don't know if this increases if you increase the dose, or perhaps mdma is just a bit trippy in itself at high doses. Or maybe if you smoke weed on a high dose it potentiates the hallucinogenic effect of the weed? Was there weed involved?

I think that a lot of the old pills were thought of as better stuff because pills generally had a lot of phet and mda in them back in the old days. That, and the loss of magic that innevitably occurs.
 
Yeah I agree with you on that one. Speed+MDMA is a proper mad dunt for me and I can understand the states of people in those 90s videos if that was what they were on. :)

I think the MDMA>MDA thing is a major contributing factor, it's always those sleepless weekends filled with pills ontop of pills that leads to those states. But I've no idea why the Q Dances just seemed to do it so easily, a lot of people round here comment the same.
 
lots and lots of MDEA - very little if any MDA. Maybe that's what we're all craving - MDEA
 
Most pills now are just mdma only. I liked the mdea pills back then, was a bit harder to get into the dancing but they felt nice.
It's a myth that the nineties was flooded with mda pills I'm afraid, mda did get more common in the naughties.
 
pothole said:
Most pills now are just mdma only. I liked the mdea pills back then, was a bit harder to get into the dancing but they felt nice.
It's a myth that the nineties was flooded with mda pills I'm afraid, mda did get more common in the naughties.
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What about all the snowballs coming out of Latvia after the collapse of the USSR?

They intercepted 10 million of the beauties at Frankfurt airport coming in from there apparently:

http://ecstasy.org/testing/purity.html
 
Weird about the prevalence of MDEA, in the 90s. Maybe that's why a load of you old timers believe pills have changed. Pills in the early 2000s were good. Lots of MDA and MDMA combos. Such an amazing combo. A lot of those were lab tested, and the results put on here, so it's not just me speculating.
 
to me the golden age of pills was 88-91/2, by end of 92 there were far more dodgy/rubbish ones appearing! i stopped taking them at end of 92 so cant speculate to the results shown on that page re 95 onwards but i would say i doubt very much if the pills before 92 contained MDEA as i thought that compound was less potent than MDMA? Also re the snowballs, i remember my mate having one and it must be true about their contents as it was a sight beleive me lol, and he was still goin strong next morning of one single pill you had to peel him off the wall still with a massive grin!!!
 
Let's not go down the synth discussion route / nostalgia trail again, please. :D

Crackhead, I think the simple truth is that one pill "lasted all night" because the people reminiscing about them were younger, had more energy and enthusiasm and were relatively new to the drug and hadn't lost the magic. A lot of them will deny this, sure, but it's something you must have observed in the course of your own use.

I know that was the case with me, but then again I didn't start taking them until the late nineties. So my opinion probably holds little credibility with some. Although it raised a smile to see the prevalence of MDEA in some of these 'golden' era pills.

But anyway, we're here to discuss pills currently in circulation. Save your nostalgia for the pub and yer grandkids, people. ;)
 
I think it's setting. If I was at a 90s rave (I can only go by YouTube videos) and I dropped my first pill there and it was of a good solid dose I would've been flat out the entire night. Not necessarily because of the pill, just because of the environment.
 
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