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A question about heroin

yeah, that's the thing, i'm starting getting into learning about opiates, so i thought i could ask here since it has a drug section
 
i started that way too, i was just curious about how they would feel and read about how amazing they felt. then the curiosity turned to action and now i cant seem to let go of H. it's has such a powerful grip on my life; everything i do revolves around it.
 
Indeed. Opiates are quite addictive. Of all the classes of drugs I've done that are addictive, opiates are one the most "seductive". Amphetamines are addictive but their comedowns turn a lot of people off. Benzos are addictive but a lot of people don't get much out of them. Opiates, on the other hand...

Yeah, stay away from opiates if you can. Kudos on doing your research man :)
 
^ I agree, besides perhaps amphetamines, opioids are the most addictive drugs there are. I say amphetamines because methamphetamine is undeniably euphoric. I think it is slightly more euphoric than heroin IMO so its potential for sustained addiction is extreme.
 
thank you all for not taking my questions the wrong way, i appreciate everyone's replies and all that

peace
 
I never let anybody shoot more than a bag at a time if they're around me, regardless of their tolerance. If they're really new, naive, just got out of the joint / rehab / detox, etc, then a half a bag per shot. I don't give a fuck if I need to prep your shots, get you clean rigs, find your ass a fucking vein, just don't OD!!!!!!!!

My friends call me the "junkie angel" bc i haven't ever shot up opiates and don't really even like them orally, but I always have clean works and a need to make sure ppl aren't doing anything too stupid around me hahaha
 
Kinda off track, but I would say that my story is pretty similar to a lot of people's. Curiosity is the beginning of it all. Reading on the internet when I was a 14 year old kid is what got my mind going.
I was always curious about drugs and would always set boundaries on what I would and would not do, but those quickly change after you start to try different substances. After using [insert drug] just once, then realize the lack of negative consequences that followed your use (the media/DARE/overbearing parents will make it seem like you'll like die or go broke after just one taste), you'll be much more lax about ingesting substances. I would always try on different drugs "just to get the new experience and form an opinion" but after you do that...slippppppery slope.
Opiates being the most enticing of all substances cause there's no comedown or paranoia like with uppers, no smoke involved (if smoke isn't your thing), no anxiety...just euphoria and warmth. Before I knew it I had evolved from eating T3s and vicodin once every few months with some friends to shooting up heroin by myself feeling like a fiend. It may take 4, 5, 10 years to happen, but it's always a possibility and you really have to keep that in mind. The drug is more powerful than you if you become careless
 
GABAking said:
Kinda off track, but I would say that my story is pretty similar to a lot of people's. Curiosity is the beginning of it all. Reading on the internet when I was a 14 year old kid is what got my mind going.
I was always curious about drugs and would always set boundaries on what I would and would not do, but those quickly change after you start to try different substances. After using [insert drug] just once, then realize the lack of negative consequences that followed your use (the media/DARE/overbearing parents will make it seem like you'll like die or go broke after just one taste), you'll be much more lax about ingesting substances. I would always try on different drugs "just to get the new experience and form an opinion" but after you do that...slippppppery slope.
Opiates being the most enticing of all substances cause there's no comedown or paranoia like with uppers, no smoke involved (if smoke isn't your thing), no anxiety...just euphoria and warmth. Before I knew it I had evolved from eating T3s and vicodin once every few months with some friends to shooting up heroin by myself feeling like a fiend. It may take 4, 5, 10 years to happen, but it's always a possibility and you really have to keep that in mind. The drug is more powerful than you if you become careless
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Sound advice! I have been in love with H for years, mainly smoking it, but the occasional IV too. I have seen many, many mates go down the road to a day with out brings out a bad withdrawal to them. Treat any substance, especially this with respect though and you shouldn't have an issue like that! But, it is harder said than done. I have a separate bunch of mates that, as bad as it sounds. I do not socialise with often due to constant opiate abuse and the fact I don't want a physical addiction...
Also H was my first opiate experience and since trying others, my one and only of choice!
 
Dirtyven said:
How much heroin would kill an opiate-naiv person?
I don't know anything about heroin so if someone took a gram, let's say snorted it.
How long would it take for it to kick in?

Could you put powdered heroin in emptied out tramadol capsules if you'd want the heroin to kick in a bit later instead?
How long would it take to kick in? like when does it START to going into your body? after how long?
Would this change the first question? if so, in what way? would you need more or less to kill you?
Same dosage, what would happen if you took a gram like this?

I'm not into opiates, i'm just asking out of curiosity, i don't like opiates, and even if i did, i wouldn't wanna become addicted to heroin.

I might edit if i can think of more questions but i guess that's it for now

thanks in advance

peace

EDIT: Let's say it's lowgrade heroin
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This whole post seems a bit fishy, like you want to trick someone into taking heroin by putting it in tramadol capsules so they think they are taking tramadol, but in reality they are taking heroin.

If someone is sniffing it (~50% BA), then 1/4 of a bag could be too much, since I have seen people overdose on 1/2 bag of heroin IV (100% BA). Orally the BA is 35% at the most, so 1/6 of a bag (that math is a bit off, but you get the idea) can result it overdose. This was off of some very strong heroin though, so it's not usually going to cause an overdose at these doses, but it is definitely possible epecially since the person that overdosed had a tolerance, but had been using less frequently, and has just taken a few weeks off.
 
^Agreed. It sounds like the OP wants to commit suicide, maybe even homicide. Please don't do either one, it's just not worth it.

If you just want to get high, sniff a bump(25mg, about the size of a matchhead or a coke spoon), and wait 20-30minutes before doing more, though you should feel it in 5. Repeat till you're high as you want to be.
 
So Dirtyven have you EVER used an opiate? If you haven't and don't plan too then be careful about how much you learn and research because you'll hear alot of how "good" they make you feel, but also how addictive they are. For some of us our opiate addiction turns into a lifestyle and change is sooo hard to come by! I find myself just reading about using or someones experience and then I want to use SOOO BADLY: BE CAUTIOUS!
 
not an opiate, but i have tried tramadol, i started from 50 and worked my way up to 200mg but didn't feel anything and i didn't wanna go any higher
and i'm wanting to learn because of my education
i don't really feel the urge to like, try them out, it hadn't even crossed my mind 'till you told me haha, but no, i don't wanna end up in that hole, already getting off benzos, that's enough for me
 
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THC2LSD said:
^Agreed. It sounds like the OP wants to commit suicide, maybe even homicide. Please don't do either one, it's just not worth it.

If you just want to get high, sniff a bump(25mg, about the size of a matchhead or a coke spoon), and wait 20-30minutes before doing more, though you should feel it in 5. Repeat till you're high as you want to be.
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nnononono, you got me all wrong
after the summer, i'm gonna take a 1,5 years course in pharmaceutical technician education thing, which is why i've made all these threads about opiates, trying to learn something, gain knowledge
i been suicidal yes, but i'm not going down that road again, i'm fighting depression right now, but mainly for my best friend, i'm still here, i ain't gonna let depression win, not this time, it almost did last time
i've noticed music helps a lot, to get things of my chest and stuff
walking in the woods is nice too, hearing all the animals and no man made machinery sounds, i love it, we have a cabin near the woods, like it's right behind the cabin but it's a whole cabin area, but i love it there in the summer
 
Tommyboy said:
This whole post seems a bit fishy, like you want to trick someone into taking heroin by putting it in tramadol capsules so they think they are taking tramadol, but in reality they are taking heroin.

If someone is sniffing it (~50% BA), then 1/4 of a bag could be too much, since I have seen people overdose on 1/2 bag of heroin IV (100% BA). Orally the BA is 35% at the most, so 1/6 of a bag (that math is a bit off, but you get the idea) can result it overdose. This was off of some very strong heroin though, so it's not usually going to cause an overdose at these doses, but it is definitely possible epecially since the person that overdosed had a tolerance, but had been using less frequently, and has just taken a few weeks off.
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i'm becoming a pharmaceutical technician and i wanted to know if it'd get you high slower and all that, i ain't gonna commit suicide or kill anyone, i'm not that psycho, i may have some mental disorders but not to that grade
 
Dirtyven said:
not an opiate, but i have tried tramadol, i started from 50 and worked my way up to 200mg but didn't feel anything and i didn't wanna go any higher
and i'm wanting to learn because of my education
i don't really feel the urge to like, try them out, it hadn't even crossed my mind 'till you told me haha, but no, i don't wanna end up in that hole, already getting off benzos, that's enough for me[/QUOTe

Well then atleast you understand the whole cycle since you're tryin to get the Benz out of your life, that's a hard one, but you can do it. I simultaneously came off of opies and benz - it was awful i didn't sleep for 12 days and my body just shook. I WAS IV'ing tho so maybe a little more intense, my body was so used to having both types of drugs ALL THE TIME. Good luck with your studies and be careful if/when.
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thank you
yeah i ain't really been that addicted so it hasn't been hell like everyone else that's been addicted for years, i'm just trying to stop it before it gets too far y'know
i will be careful, but i wouldn't mix 2 cns depressants or do heroin, nothing against it but it's just nothing that interests me exactly, ingesting of course, or IV whatever, but reading about it is interesting so yeah
but no, heroin i wouldn't try
 
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