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Mild kidney pain and difficulty urinating after high dose of mdma :(

Okami

Okami

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I took a dose of approximately 180mgs on friday. At first I took a total of 120mg, 60mg of high quality stuff left over from a batch I trusted and 60mg from a dodgey source.

At the club I was going to I noticed they were searching people as they came in. It had been about 20-30 minutes since I bombed, I didn't feel anything yet and since my friends said that the new stuff was really inconsistant and sometimes didn't work, I thought I'd better take the other 60mg I'd brought to take as I was starting to come down later on in the night now, instead of it being found by the bouncer. After all half of the time it seemed not to work, worst comes to worst it's just a bit stronger than I want it to be. It will be fine I told myself. It was not fine.

When it hit me I felt completely overwhelmed. I stepped outside to get air, my eyes were rapidly moving from side to side and I couldn't control them at all and I had pretty sever kidney pain. I kept myself cool by pouring whater on my head and I bought a bottle of watter and sipped it and tried to force myself to pee a couple of times but couldn't. I wandered around for 2 hours or so, but I have no recollection of where I went (although I did end up giving away about £5 worth of change to various homeless people, drug's aren't entirely bad :D), all I remember was being really lost because I couldn't focus on anything therefore I had no idea where I was. Eventually some friends found me and took me home. I took a 5mg of valium and went to sleep.

Next morning I felt fine, but still couldn't really piss despite needing to. I smoked a little weed (which for whatever reason for me acts like a diuretic and instantly makes me normally go to the toilet), still nothing. I kept trying and sometimes a couple of drips or a trickle would come out. Today I woke up early in the moring because i needed to piss, again a trickle came out for half a second or so but that was it. Accompanied with it I know have mild kidney pain.

I've tried coffee that too doesn't work. Nothing's working. Anyone had anything like this. Do I wait a couple more days and try not to drink too much water (if I'm not mistaken with kidney problems you should drinke less?), or should I go to the doctor?
 
For the length of time you have needed to go a pee and it aint happening? Please see a doctor.

I think you need medical attention i hope you get it sorted. DONT drink loads of water in an attempt to 'flush' or whatever, because if you cant pee, you could then die from Over-hydration.

I hope you return to this thread having sought medical advice and are functional again all the best!
- Sam
 
I rolled Fri also and let me just tell u on.sat afternoon I actually said to my girl I may need to rethink this whole rolling thing cause there is no worse feeling in the world standing at the toilet for 20 MIN and having to pee yet can't. Its so fucking annoying. How do u lose the fuckin power to pee? Its like ur groin muscles absolutely go to shit. That's the only complaint I have bout rolling. Especially when ur in the bathroom at the club w 20 drunk fucker standing behind u waiting to go grrr!
 
yanker said:
Especially when ur in the bathroom at the club w 20 drunk fucker standing behind u waiting to go grrr!
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i only go to clubs where everyone is on md really, and it's jokes when you're standing at the urinal with 5 other randomers and non of you can pee so you strike up a conversation about it and become best friends.
 
Yeah you gotta be careful with not being able to urinate. Many suggest that is best to simply replace lost fluids rather than drink a glass of water now and then for the sake of it.
 
Righto, today's urination has been absolutely ay-okay and back to normal. I don't really know why I couldn't for so long. Kidney pain too has gone away, shall keep an eye on it just in case though.
 
Okami are you male or female? because I suffer from chronic prostatitis, and when i take mdma it messes up my urination for the day after.

This is getting progressively worse, as the first time i took mdma i remember some problems but not the spasms i got last time, kinda ruined my experience a little
 
Darksidesam said:
Okami are you male or female? because I suffer from chronic prostatitis, and when i take mdma it messes up my urination for the day after.

This is getting progressively worse, as the first time i took mdma i remember some problems but not the spasms i got last time, kinda ruined my experience a little
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Male, but I doubt its that. Normally I don't have any problems, I'm guessing it wasn't actually mdma seeing as I have taken doses that high before of a source I trust and I was too high for comfort, but no eye shaking or kidney problems. The fact that there hasn't been any comedown makes me think that as well.
 
Test kits are the best thing ever. :)

All you have to do is, get test kit. Aquire a gram and make that gram last you a bloody long time, ideallly a year at least. :)
 
I bought mine for like £12 i think.

Whatever the price, is it worth your life?
Being alive , cant put a price on that one.. ;)
 
alasdairm got it....

ADH release prevents the kidneys from removing water from the bloodstream.
This is typical during a roll, especially leading up to the peak.
It is also typical of serotonin syndrome, an exxagerated and dangerous condition that is very similar to the 'normal' MDMA experience.

When ADH reaches high enough levels, it is called SIADH or syndrome of inappropriate anti-diuretic hormone.
SIADH is the leading cause of hyponatremia, which is a condition in which water levels in the bloodstream go up and electrolytes do not.
Hyponatremia is the leading cause of death from MDMA - incriminating ADH release as a critical part of neurotoxicity.

Being unable to pee for DAYS after rolling is a CLEAR sign that you are doing some harm to your brain.
In particular you are changing the hypothalamic/pituitary connection.
You may be at increased risk for a serious reaction to MDMA, including serotonin syndrome, if you continue to roll.
I suggest a LONG break.

If you are not taking in fluids or eating, and you are dehydrated to start with, it is fairly common to have a very low level of urine output.
But you would still be expected to have SOME...more than drops for sure.
Yes, you should have drank some water.
With salt.

Increasing electrolytes in the bloodstream is the first line of defense against SIADH and hyponatremia among MDMA users.
Well, after lowering body temperature of course...

The key thing is to drink small amounts at a time, not a large amount.
Gatorade or light salt water should help - plain water is NOT advised.
You should also be taking Vitamin C and possibly piracetam.
These have the potential to reduce neurotoxicity.

Keep in mind that SS and acute reactions from MDMA use have occurred two to three DAYS after the last dose.
This is common, and it happened to me.
So next time visiting a doctor is a good idea - they can monitor and medicate kidney and liver function.
Although they can do little to protect the brain from the nasty metabolites of MDMA floating around your bloodstream for 5-7 days!
 
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