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Hello,

I've UTFSE on here and found clearly that combining MDMA and St Johns Wort is potentially fatal, as well as St Johns Wort potentially reducing the desired effects from MDMA.

I've been on 1.35grams of St Johns Wort a day for two weeks now, (one tablet every morning.)

I'm wondering if I decide to take an MDMA cap tonight, what risks are involved?

I ask this because it will be a good 12 hours since the morning St Johns Worts tablet. Is this sufficinet time spacing to ensure no harm? And also, will it even be worth it? Will I feel the effects?

Thanks Everyone
 
No one answered... so I hope you haven't already done this :(


It's potentially fatal dude... of course it's not worth it!!!!!!! Serotonin Syndrome is nasty and probably one of the most horrible things you can ever experience... not worth it at ALL.


I guess now I'm required to also mention that some people have been able to take it while rolling and be fine, but I certainly wouldn't put my life in my own hands like that...


Wait at least 48 hours for it to be out of your system, more if you can.
 
OK, so I did end up consuming half a tablet about 16 hours after the last St. Johns Wort tablet.

Needless to say it was a strange experience. I had been drinking moderately beforehand and was a little to hyped up on energy drinks (irresponsible act number one.)

On the come-up I felt uncharacteristically energetic, and a little colder then usual. Then on the bus ride home I felt nauseous and slightly agitated.

I manged to go into a sort of fugue sleep state for about 4 hours before waking up at 6am feeling MUCH better then I did even the few hours before, in which I felt my heart beating at points quite quickly. The problem is I can't tell if these strange effects are from mild seretonin syndrome or simply combining to much alcohol, caffeine and then taking MDMA.

Needless to say this was effin stupid as all hell, probably the most irresponsible thing ive done and was quite scary at the time.

I'm going to keep an eye on my self through the day and if things get worse or stay the same i'll definitely go to an emergency room. I will wait until a little later in the day for this hangover to subside to judge if it is neccessary.

EDIT: OK so it looks like everything is ok. All of those symptoms I had last night have dissipated. I guess i'm a bit of a hypochondriac. I feel the normal symptoms now of a hangover with a little scatterbrain-dness. Still, even if what I experienced was a taste of SS I can't imagine the hell that you go through when it's for real.
 
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...Yeah, it was the most horrible thing I've ever experienced, still going through my own personal hell. I got it in a way very similar to how you almost got it, 5-htp and MDMA. be careful in the future man there are a lot of things that MDMA should not be combined with. There are also a fair amount of things you can combine it with much more safely, just be sure to know what your doing before you do it. If you were able to sleep the night of I doubt there was even an extremely acute case of SS, but what you felt may have very well been similar to that.
 
Serotonin Syndrome has become a blanket term for neurological problems these days...

What he experienced probably wasn't SS, because he would probably know for SURE if it was lol.... but considering that SJW can be quoted as a SSRI, MAOI, and DRI (but at the same time is none of those..), and considering that you're not supposed to take any of those with MDMA....

You're a pretty lucky mother fucker man.... Sorry I couldn't get to you earlier though :(
 
I took SJW 2 hours before rolling at it was a potent mofo 2.2mg of the active in it hyperforin? Was a 4gram tablet.

Had a pretty good roll however I was eating half a bickie at a time just incase anything happened but I was fine.
 
gooballs said:
...Yeah, it was the most horrible thing I've ever experienced, still going through my own personal hell. I got it in a way very similar to how you almost got it, 5-htp and MDMA. be careful in the future man there are a lot of things that MDMA should not be combined with. There are also a fair amount of things you can combine it with much more safely, just be sure to know what your doing before you do it. If you were able to sleep the night of I doubt there was even an extremely acute case of SS, but what you felt may have very well been similar to that.
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Can you tell me more about your Serotonin Syndrome and your dosing etc of 5-HTP.

I regularly consume both. Admittedly tend to miss 5-HTP a day or 2 before MDMA, but have been known to consume on the same day.

What Symptoms did you get from SS? How did you get treated?
 
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