Regional Heroin Discussion v14: What's the point?

[OND43X]

hey what is the average purity for street level heroin in england, ireland and co? Do they vary much? what is the average purity levels now (during the uk drought), before the drought (during lean years) and during the period when heroin was at its peak? Is there a city/area in the uk that is often called the heroin capital?? I have noticed that australia and its drought has often come up in this thread especially on the topic of what caused australia to go into a h drought and why is the uk in drought when australia seems to be increasing in availability?... I dunno too much of the facts into it and i dont think an actual answer has ever been found but, one factor i would defineatly cross off the list would be the war in Afghanistan for Australias drought. Heroin in australia is almost exclusively #4 from the goldern triangle. I see it more a reason for the uk drought though. here are some street level purity figures for australia (excl nsw) and NSW/sydney

Australia....................NSW/Sydney​

present

25%...............................25%.​

pre drought (late90s-2001)

55%.........................60%/65%.​

during drought at its peak

11%..............................13%​

here is an article on cabramatta (sydneys old heroin capital from 1997)​

http://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/resour...tion-analysis-street-level-samples-cabramatta​

 

[ructions]

over a year and a half now and still worse it's getting really can't see an end to this at all not here in this shit hole if things aren't going to pick up in uk there never going to pick up here time to book a flight were o were to go

Hi Griff! How you?! Yeah things are getting worse! I couldn't even score to-day! I rang a third guy about an hour ago & he said that he had gear but he said him self that it is awful stuff, its bad when even the dealers are admitting that their gear is bad!!! Its hard to believe that things are actually getting worse! FFS!!! 8(

Funnily enough i'm not even that bothered anymore that i couldn't score to-day (am i bothered?!) I was pissed off earlier, but i got over it quickly! At lease i saved myself €100! I might just leave it this time around! So were you gonna book a flight to Griffin?

 

[trip2themoon]

hey what is the average purity for street level heroin in england, ireland and co? Do they vary much? what is the average purity levels now (during the uk drought), before the drought (during lean years) and during the period when heroin was at its peak? Is there a city/area in the uk that is often called the heroin capital?? I have noticed that australia and its drought has often come up in this thread especially on the topic of what caused australia to go into a h drought and why is the uk in drought when australia seems to be increasing in availability?... I dunno too much of the facts into it and i dont think an actual answer has ever been found but, one factor i would defineatly cross off the list would be the war in Afghanistan for Australias drought. Heroin in australia is almost exclusively #4 from the goldern triangle. I see it more a reason for the uk drought though. here are some street level purity figures for australia (excl nsw) and NSW/sydney

Australia....................NSW/Sydney​

present

25%...............................25%.​

pre drought (late90s-2001)

55%.........................60%/65%.​

during drought at its peak

11%..............................13%​

here is an article on cabramatta (sydneys old heroin capital from 1997)​

http://ndarc.med.unsw.edu.au/resour...tion-analysis-street-level-samples-cabramatta​

I've heard that most Aussie gear comes from Burma so no wonder yous were getting up to 65%. Is that white stuff smokeable? I'd heard that in the late 1990s a major player in the Aussie smack import scene was jailed. Did that have a big impact on what was brought in?

 

[OND43X]

^^^^

apparently most of the heroin sold here is in salt form so it could be smoked but it would be wasteful as it would burrn. Your right about the source of australias heroin, the goldern triangle (#4)​

.​

the person you may of be thinking about may be the gang 5t and its leader who were importing alot of heroin into sydney and australia in the 90's, they were a vietnamese gang who disbanded in the late 90s. The gangs size and power faded from its members dieing or sent to jail and the nail was hammered in when the gang leader was murdered. Apparently triads/chinese gangs are the big heroin importers here.​

 

[SteveSircull]

Cheers Steve mucker nice one - I fuckin hate to say that its good to have u back on this thread, (I know u been back for a while) cos I remember reading ur posts prior to u getting clean and I wished u nothing but the the best knowing wot u were going thru. But in a gear head kinda way its always good to have a mucker back where the rest of us are, not that I'd wish it. Sure u know what I mean. And ur post the other day was fuckin mad btw, about that scammer outside the spot trying to rip people off etc. Anyway bud, I hope that since ur relapse its strengthened ur determination to quit, instead of strengthening ur determination to saty as a user, which is what happened whenever I tried to kick in the past. Hate to say it but about a year ago I changed from thinking one day I'd quit to thinking that now I'm a lifer. But I'm on decent dose of meth and got a handle on how much I use etc, just no desire to stop. I'm obsessed by the shit! And the harder itsa got to score decent tackle, the more I'm hell bent on trying to score decent!

LONG BORING SELF PITY DIATRIBE BELOW _ PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SKIP

Cheers Papaversom, were all obsessed mate, Ive just spent a year turning my life around completely, but of course none of it was ever good enough for the woman she just couldnt let it go, she fucking broke my heart last year and because I love her unconditonally (what other kind of love is there?) it was no trouble when she came crawling back to welcome her with open arms. Shes spent the last year getting wined and dined, and holidayed, a thousand quids worth of christmas presents, I loved it cos I love her and i love treating her. Unfortunatley all I got for christmas in return from her was a black eye with (most of her anti heroin rants towards me were fulled by alcohol and physical violence) so I finnally got fed up with the constantly moving goalposts and went running for the tooter. Within hours shed managed to spin her propaganda to just about all of our friends who instantly ostrascised me so with no girl of my dreams, no freinds, no plan, and no self respect left at all it was essential that I had to start living up to my name again as the degenerate junkie fucking loser that I've tried so hard not to be. Still, cant blame anyone else for my own choices, im just annoyed at how shes put me in a position where such choices are too easy to make. Took about 10 days of constant use before I was rattling, which is comical considering how crap the kit is. Ive never accepted a methadone prescription tho, I will take it from time to time in one off doses to hold me but I always was and i am still determined never to be a slave to opiate maintainance treatment. I just smoked the last 2 bags I had in the house, im at work at 7am after which I have 2 weeks annual leave wich I intend to put to good use. Should be feeling quite poorly come hometime tomorow, so im going to get comfortable, and start my summer batman consumption while I rattle the shit out over the next few days. Im no at all apprehnsive about this, the gear ive been taking the last fortnight has been so weak i believe that that dealers have unwittingly put me through a gradual reduction anyway and due to the general shitness of the quality I can see the w/d period being alot more managable than those from previous occasions. I have plenty of weed, loads of diazepam, clonazepam and lorazepam and as I said - the magic ingrediant _ BATMAN. With no mates or any life to speak of I have decided to immerse myself in the world of the caped crusader in anticipation of the new Chris Nolan film in July. I have the entire animated series torrented ready to watch as soon as the rattle starts kicking in hard, and I have restarted playing Arkham Ayslum on me XBOX and I have an Unopened PS3 copy of Arkham City to crack on with as soon as thats done. Im off to crete for a week next friday, and by the time I return Amazon should have supllied me with Blu Ray copies of all 6 Warner Bros. feature films which i will treat myself to one a week up untill the release of TDKR in july. June 3rd sees the return of legendary rave Quest to Wolverhamptons biggest venue, so as well as my bedroom bound comic book geekdom I shall be tracking down some ecstasy tablets and I have plans to dance the summer away while im still just about young enough not to look like one of those burnt out weirdos that I have spotted at these events over the last 18 years.

Who needs people when you can put so much effort into suiting oneself

 

[bogman]

Methadone is a joke, The junkies drink it, get the hit off it and then regurgitate it into yogurt bottles and sell it on to the even more desperate. Source - Family member is a pharmacist.


just one of the urban myths doing the rounds of Dublin atm. just seen it posted on boards.ie yesterday and still laughing.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056628031

some of the comments are funny, some sad and a few spot on.

 

[TheManFromDelMonte]

ye they like to put the boot in when it comes to the turtle , i was at the football last week and i could hear the guy behind me mouthing off to his mate that he saw a girl drop her bottle of green it smashed on the ground and the poor girl proceeded to try and reclaim whatever she could , he then said it was on youtube so i checked on my iphone and couldnt find it , probably fkn made it up , or he is an addict himself trying to look like the rest of his beer tits and fitba mates.....

 

[trip2themoon]

ye they like to put the boot in when it comes to the turtle , i was at the football last week and i could hear the guy behind me mouthing off to his mate that he saw a girl drop her bottle of green it smashed on the ground and the poor girl proceeded to try and reclaim whatever she could , he then said it was on youtube so i checked on my iphone and couldnt find it , probably fkn made it up , or he is an addict himself trying to look like the rest of his beer tits and fitba mates.....

Edinburgh area?

That was in the paper about a month or so ago. I couldn't understand why you'd be licking off the ground when you'd just came out the chemist. I get mine to go but I still have to take one dose there on the day I get it, so she wouldn't have been rattling.

 

[TheManFromDelMonte]

ye m8 auld reekie indeed , those stories are always doin the rounds . i had no idea it was in the paper though

 

[trip2themoon]

ye m8 auld reekie indeed , those stories are always doin the rounds . i had no idea it was in the paper though

Aye, someone took a pic of it on their phone. You see her on her knees licking it up whilst her mate keeps an eye on her wean. Six days worth in a glass bottle...SMASH...Unlucky. Just found the pic...


http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/01/31/shocking-picture-shows-woman-licking-methadone-from-pavement-in-front-of-child-86908-23728139/

Edit: Check the comments at the end of that article. People really don't have a clue. It's all "boo hoo my taxes pay for that".

 

[strungout2010]

So many people tried it on at my CDT with the old jollop slip.
That all methadone scripts from my gaff, have "TO BE PERSCRIBED IN PLASTIC BOTTLES " printed on them.

Gear news ,
I'm well made up with my new score the gears pucker they are •2 for £15. , but I don't have to keep on topping up my smoke.
One smoke and my heads in my lap. My mrs was sick last night ( allways a good sign) for the first time in years.
Gone for a big old load up and had a bit of a deal with him aswell. GOOD TIMES.

Edit ........

Does anyone remember the story about Shawn Ryder , goin out to Jamaica to record happy Monday's 2nd album, and he dropped his 1000 mil bottle of methadone at Manchester airport.
I think he still went but spent the whole time freebasing coke in the recording studio , apparently it was for medicinal purposes, to help his rattle. Lol.

 

[blondin]

I remember years ago at a rave a guy came up and asked if i wanted a pill and a microdot he was flogging - i said yes and right in front of me he wretched up both pills covered in bile in to his hand and said '15 quid mate' I was off my nut anyway and that episode left me totally flummoxed I think i just walked away mouth agape thinking 'did that really happen'

 

[trip2themoon]

So many people tried it on at my CDT with the old jollop slip.
That all methadone scripts from my gaff, have "TO BE PERSCRIBED IN PLASTIC BOTTLES " printed on them.

Gear news ,
I'm well made up with my new score the gears pucker they are •2 for £15. , but I don't have to keep on topping up my smoke.
One smoke and my heads in my lap. My mrs was sick last night ( allways a good sign) for the first time in years.
Gone for a big old load up and had a bit of a deal with him aswell. GOOD TIMES.

Edit ........

Does anyone remember the story about Shawn Ryder , goin out to Jamaica to record happy Monday's 2nd album, and he dropped his 1000 mil bottle of methadone at Manchester airport.
I think he still went but spent the whole time freebasing coke in the recording studio , apparently it was for medicinal purposes, to help his rattle. Lol.

I get mine away in 6 bottles. You'd think everyone would get that but I've seen a few people get those big Martindale Physeptone bottle which are straight from the factory. If you got something like 700ml away in one big plastic bottle would there be a good chance it would crack if dropped?

 

[BecomingJulie]

I remember reading about "spit meth" years ago, before I first touched opiates.

Even then, I thought there was something wrong with castigating people for choosing to drink someone else's sick instead of going out and committing crimes to fund their habit (which, lest we forget, is grossly over-priced in the first place precisely because the trade is illegal). In what way, really, is "I don't want to rob already-vulnerable people to get the money to buy real heroin, so I'm desperate enough to try drinking someone else's partially-digested stomach contents as a way of sparing them" reprehensible?

Get that? Someone makes the choice not to steal your stuff, even at the cost to them of having to drink somebody else's puke, and then you turn around to them all self-righteous and disgusted? WTF is wrong with you?

And when the castigating is being done by nicotine and alcohol addicts, it's worse because it's utter hypocrisy.

If you are not an addict but nonetheless want to know what it feels like to be an addict in need of a fix, try drinking 3 litres of lemonade and driving along a very bumpy road to a place with lots of people and no bathrooms. (Or, for a more extreme example, try standing next to a wave-soldering machine in which the flux has caught on fire -- I can say that, having worked in an electronics factory where exactly such a thing did happen; but there's a difference between pissing yourself and not being able to breathe, and I would never, ever wish the latter on anybody.)

 

[Myshkin]

Does anyone remember the story about Shawn Ryder , goin out to Jamaica to record happy Monday's 2nd album, and he dropped his 1000 mil bottle of methadone at Manchester airport.
I think he still went but spent the whole time freebasing coke in the recording studio , apparently it was for medicinal purposes, to help his rattle. Lol.

Yep, sent him to Barbados specifically because there was no smack there. Nobody even thought about the fact it was swimming in crack.

Ended up selling the furniture from the studio and eventually threatening to burn the master tapes for the album if Tony Wilson didn't wire him more money.

Best Mondays story ever.

 

[trip2themoon]

I remember reading about "spit meth" years ago, before I first touched opiates.

Even then, I thought there was something wrong with castigating people for choosing to drink someone else's sick instead of going out and committing crimes to fund their habit (which, lest we forget, is grossly over-priced in the first place precisely because the trade is illegal). In what way, really, is "I don't want to rob already-vulnerable people to get the money to buy real heroin, so I'm desperate enough to try drinking someone else's partially-digested stomach contents as a way of sparing them" reprehensible?

Get that? Someone makes the choice not to steal your stuff, even at the cost to them of having to drink somebody else's puke, and then you turn around to them all self-righteous and disgusted? WTF is wrong with you?

And when the castigating is being done by nicotine and alcohol addicts, it's worse because it's utter hypocrisy.

If you are not an addict but nonetheless want to know what it feels like to be an addict in need of a fix, try drinking 3 litres of lemonade and driving along a very bumpy road to a place with lots of people and no bathrooms. (Or, for a more extreme example, try standing next to a wave-soldering machine in which the flux has caught on fire -- I can say that, having worked in an electronics factory where exactly such a thing did happen; but there's a difference between pissing yourself and not being able to breathe, and I would never, ever wish the latter on anybody.)

The only place I've heard of puked up meth being sold is in the jail. Even heard of people being bullied into puking back up their meth but on the street I've never know anyone to buy/sell it that way. TBH I think it's a myth. If you've got the cash you would go and score but your choices would be a bit more limited in jail.

 

[TheManFromDelMonte]

Seems a bit much don't it , then again it's all relevant , I've used water from a stream in Malaysia for a dig that's about my limit

 

[strungout2010]

@ Trip2the moon
Edit ....I get mine away in 6 bottles. You'd think everyone would get that but I've seen a few people get those big Martindale Physeptone bottle which are straight from the factory. If you got something like 700ml away in one big plastic bottle would there be a good chance it would crack if dropped?

Yes mate I reckon the big Plastic bottles could brake easy.
I used to get the big glass 1000mil bottles all the time but since the memo went out all I get are shit loads of little plastic pests.
Now i just top the big dudes up ( label & all) top shelf of my workshop looks like boots. Lol

@ sammy G

Yeah mate wicked story I knew I'd get a bit wrong in my muddled mind. But geeza's a living LEG END.

 

[Myshkin]

@ sammy G

Yeah mate wicked story I knew I'd get a bit wrong in my muddled mind. But geeza's a living LEG END.

Nah, you got it right - smashed his meth bottle at the airport and then had to rattle while getting a crack habit - fucking hell, imagine how he felt with nothing to bring him down.

No wonder the album turned out shite, eh? :D

 

[zaramorf]

Its really nice down here, well, not the stuff in my area, but if i go a mile up the road, it is what i'd call, almost as good as b4 2010

please can somebody tell me is phenobarbitone 30mg any good, i got hundreds of the things