epic11
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Red defqon
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lucky dog.
Got 5 of these on the way, after a bit of advice.
Previously I've tried powdered crystal mdma (about 6 times), not done any MDMA since december.
This is the first time I've had beans, I'm guessing 1/4 would be wise at first? Are they easy to break, or should I use a knife?
Thanks!
Previously I've tried powdered crystal mdma (about 6 times), not done any MDMA since december.
This is the first time I've had beans, I'm guessing 1/4 would be wise at first? Are they easy to break, or should I use a knife?
Thanks!
ChiLights
Bluelighter
Eat half, wait 15 minutes, enjoy vodka orange juice, wait 15 minutes, enjoy water, wait 15 minutes, enjoy other half
AND WE'RE OFF!
the toad
Bluelighter
Dannygauge
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Lets just say SWIM is close to people who work in labs and make these also and they fully explained removing the em pathogenic qualities in mdma.
When being synthesized they remove it only due to make people feel more fucked which alot of people want in this world due to not actually wanting to enhance how they feel dont actually understand the true mdma effects and so fourth i would right a detailed explanation but SWIM doesnt personally work in a lab. But if you ever find anyone who works in a lab they will tell you! The prices of this substance with the empathy not removed is normally double the price and you normally find most of the mdma is like these as it sells better from what ive been told.
If you dont believe me idc but SWIM is just trying to explain it correctly to people who know what true mdma thats why so many people who take mdma most of the time say ive lost the magic but when they get the empathy stuff there like YES THE MAGIC IS BACK!
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1. we don't swim on bluelight. it's pointless and silly.
2. if you can't or won't explain your claim, i'll draw the obvious conclusion.
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
alasdair
2. if you can't or won't explain your claim, i'll draw the obvious conclusion.
alasdair
the toad
Bluelighter
This person who told you this either, doesnt know what theyre talking about, or is blowing smoke up your ass...
You can synthesize mdma from mda... but thats changing one mdxx into another... it doesnt remove the empathogenic qualities of mdma
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal109.shtml
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Little update, tried these last night. Took half at 22:40, came up really nice and gradual but seemed to keep going up for ages. Took an extra 1/4 top at about 1 and again at 3, went to bed at 06:30
This morning I feel right as rain. Tiny bit of jaw ache
This morning I feel right as rain. Tiny bit of jaw ache
ro4eva
Bluelighter
Little update, tried these last night. Took half at 22:40, came up really nice and gradual but seemed to keep going up for ages. Took an extra 1/4 top at about 1 and again at 3, went to bed at 06:30
This morning I feel right as rain. Tiny bit of jaw ache
I love the next day glow. Not so much, the day after.
parttime crackhead
Bluelighter
Taking a quarter of a pill at a time? So probably maximum 50mg? Wtf? Total waste. Just man up & eat the full thing. In fact, fuck it - double drop them.
Dannygauge has posted on of the most bullshit filled posts I have ever read on here. Removing the empathy? Hahahaha. Aye, no danger mate. Nonsense.
Dannygauge has posted on of the most bullshit filled posts I have ever read on here. Removing the empathy? Hahahaha. Aye, no danger mate. Nonsense.
Folley
Bluelighter
What he is saying without knowing it is EXACTLY what myself and others have already said about these pills and ones like it (Speakers, Tri Forces...etc). If the 2 different isomers are used in different ratios, it would create consistently different effects, like more or less euphoria/empathy.
It's not that far fetched, and these high grade professional labs would be exactly the ones to do it.
ro4eva
Bluelighter
I believe it.
spaced_out
Greenlighter
Hi guys, ive just signed up here as i was looking for reports on the defqons containing mda and came across this. Now i obviously don't know how high everyone's tolerance is but i really don''t think the defqons are that special. I have taken mda once and the whole night was a wonderful trip 
and these felt a bit like mda but i think only a small amount of it as it wasnt a full blown trip but it reminded me of it . But i got...well lets just say quite a few defqons with dance on the back. Here is my experiance:
Took 1 at 7:15pm with high expectations from the reports i've read. Waited until 8:00 felt only a tiny effect so took another, 8:30 one more tiny effect.
I also had custom made red pills with no stamp so i sniffed it in two lines hoping to get a proper hit. As soon as i did i could really feel it coming on. But in the end i had 5 defqons and two no name pills and. I had started off thinking "2 or 3 should do me a night" I do have quite a high tolerance but 7 high dosed pills in a night. That cant be right can it?
I must mention that i have been on fluoxetine (prozac) for 7 weeks but i read they prevent your brain from releasing serotonin and have a half life of around six days so i stopped taking them for 5 days before rolling. Were my effects due to not staying off my fluoxetine for long enough? Or has anyone else had this kind of experience? Any answers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
and these felt a bit like mda but i think only a small amount of it as it wasnt a full blown trip but it reminded me of it . But i got...well lets just say quite a few defqons with dance on the back. Here is my experiance:Took 1 at 7:15pm with high expectations from the reports i've read. Waited until 8:00 felt only a tiny effect so took another, 8:30 one more tiny effect.
I also had custom made red pills with no stamp so i sniffed it in two lines hoping to get a proper hit. As soon as i did i could really feel it coming on. But in the end i had 5 defqons and two no name pills and. I had started off thinking "2 or 3 should do me a night" I do have quite a high tolerance but 7 high dosed pills in a night. That cant be right can it?
I must mention that i have been on fluoxetine (prozac) for 7 weeks but i read they prevent your brain from releasing serotonin and have a half life of around six days so i stopped taking them for 5 days before rolling. Were my effects due to not staying off my fluoxetine for long enough? Or has anyone else had this kind of experience? Any answers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
Folley
Bluelighter
Yes.
Get off the SSRIs... they are HORRIBLE drugs. If you keep using them, not only will you have permanent 5-HT downregulation, but you will never be able to roll again.
It has been proven that long term SSRI use causes a wide variety of serotonin related problems.
spaced_out
Greenlighter
Thanks for the reply pal
I've spent hours on google researchin SSRI's and MDMA but it was all mixed reviews. I actually went to my doctor for anxiety problems hoping for diazepam to chill me out so i can do day to day activities worry free but apparantly i have depression (which i dont think is true due to spending around three minutes with my doctor). 7 weeks on fluoxetine and no difference whatsoever. I think i will be going into a lot more depth with my doc the next time i see him because the fluoxetine does nothing for me and i don't like the sound of not being able to roll again.Really appreciate your reply, thanks mate
ro4eva
Bluelighter
I tried rolling while on Prozac (I was on Prozac a few years back) and it didn't work out well at all. One of Fluoxetine's main metabolites - I believe Norfluoxetine, which is produced in the liver - has a ridiculously long half life and it's also a SSRI. Also, I remember reading somewhere that if you are to switch from a SSRI to an MAOI, you have to wait at least 14 days before doing so with the exception of Fluoxetine, which it's recommended you wait up to 6 weeks for the entire drug and its pharmacologically active metabolites to be completely eliminated from your system. So yeah, I definitely believe that the fact you were on Prozac severely impacted the mdma because the red defqons - believe it or not - have a lot of mdma in them, although I'm not sure how much of each isomer (well, they have a lot of mdma in them considering we're living in 2012). Some of this information may be flawed - I'm still half asleep and I'm copying and pasting from memory.
spaced_out
Greenlighter
@ro4eva. After you came off the prozac did taking pills feel the same as they did before you were on it? I know you have to stay off the prozac for quite a while before your brain is able to release serotonin properly again. But as folley says it causes 5-HT downregulation so this makes me think that even after staying off prozac for lets say about a month or two, the effects of MD would still be significantly decreased.
And if this is the case, would it be fixable by preloading with 5-HTP a few days before rolling?
And if this is the case, would it be fixable by preloading with 5-HTP a few days before rolling?