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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

Desoxyn & Eatin Disorders

I wouldn't say dexedrine is THAT hard to obtain, but I agree with you on desoxyn it is a very rare and tough script to obtain
 
Well Desoxyn is extremely rare, but I'm telling you I had a lot of trouble finding a pharmacy that carried Dexedrine when I first got them scripted. I remember the day I got the script and I went to every pharmacy within a 5 mile radius of my house and none carried it. I was shocked. They all carried Adderall, but not Dexedrine. I didn't get it filled until the next day. I started to call pharmacies instead of driving around looking for them. Some were reluctant to give out that info over the phone and others said no. Until I called this one Rita Aid and finally they said they carried it. I hurried over to that pharmacy and got my script filled (actually, a Kroger pharmacy also carried it, but they were more expensive at Krogers so I went with the Rite Aid).
 
We are getting s little off topic but I shall reply

But you also have to think outside the box

If dexedrine is rare in an area, doctors might just not bother prescribing it since it isnt available

Whereas if dexedrine is available in pharmacies and a doctor has no problem prescribing it, I doubt they'll only write 1 script, they'd obviously add it to their list of script choices, making dexedrine scripts more common
 
^ True. The reason most pharmacies didn't carry it was because they didn't have any users of the drug or they didn't get any prescriptions for it, so they just never ordered it. That's the reason most of the pharmacies gave me for not having it in stock.

But yes, we are getting off topic. Sorry Babygurl.
 
Let's stay on topic. We're not here to discuss doctor's prescribing habits in certain areas. Y'all know the rules.

Babygurl, you need to stop Desoxyn ASAP if it is doing that to you. Be honest with your doctor (you should have been doing this from the beginning). Not eating and taking methamphetamine instead of eating will, well, kill you, if you keep on doing it.

Take care of yourself.
 
You really should tell your doctor, and it's a dangerous disorder that you shouldn't play with, let him decide what to do, they're doctors for a reason you know.
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I actually was in that exact same scenario as a 16 year old boy --- It was horrible. i was voluntarily admitted because of my parents freaking out at the sight of my corpse - esque frail body, and had to deal with all of that. I they wouldn't give me my ADD meds or ADD meds of any kind in there but instead just loaded me up w benzos like there was no tomorrow. I think i was on 3mg clonazepam a day with a 1mg lorazepam prn, so that make things easier. Aftr I got out and tapered and shit, I was totally fine about eating, weight, etc, but i wasn't even concerned with my physical appearances beforehand. Anways, when I got out I started taking my usual ADD meds (adderall xr 15mg X twice daily) and it was crazy. I was straight up CRACKED out like tweaker status that shit was wild buy yeah i just paced around chain-smoking cigs without sleep or food for like a week. lol. After i finally crashed bc i ran out of my script and didn't have a refill I knew i had to be responsible and switch my meds to prevent something like a medication allowing me to regress to the point when i weighed 75 pounds at 5 foot 11. Decided to go with 30mg vyvanse upped to 40 and its been fantastic.

Overall, I just wanted to say that you must have really fucking awful ADD to be on desoxyn. Either that or you have a shit doctor. Im shocked you haven't told him about the eating disorder too. It sounds like you're there far more to convince him to give you meds than you are there to learn and talk openly and learn from yourself. He won't just pull the desoxyn, but probably will cut the dose. I mean, depending on the current dose I'd say cut that in half and just take that instead. Or switch to vyvanse which isn't as hard on the appetite and lasts allllllllll day
 
For me anorexia is not only about bein thin but havin control of something in my life. Can't seem to control my life right now..
Anyway the reason I was rx'd Desoxyn is because all weight loss/ADD meds my insurance will only pay for 3 yr olds to 21 yrs old. At my age Desoxyn is the only covered med. :(
I'm goin to tell him Thursday. Now if I do eat, I throw up..
 
Worried for you BG <3, have you tried those milkshake type things, the brand names will no doubt be different in the UK but its a kind of meal in a glass, I used to live on them when I was full on parting every weekend, at least you get some fluid and nourishment inside you and your body with absorb it quite quickly so even of you do throw up you've more than likely got some of the goodness.

You have to stop that stuff ASAP it must be doing more harm than good, front up with your doctor about the situation, you've got nothing to lose at the moment your sliding down a slope into a very dangerous place, I know you know this to.

Look after yourself, Best Wishes
 
For me anorexia is not only about bein thin but havin control of something in my life. Can't seem to control my life right now..
Anyway the reason I was rx'd Desoxyn is because all weight loss/ADD meds my insurance will only pay for 3 yr olds to 21 yrs old. At my age Desoxyn is the only covered med. :(
I'm goin to tell him Thursday. Now if I do eat, I throw up..

The control thing is totally the main cause of ED, IMHO. Nobody I've met or talked to on the ED unit at the psych hosp thought that looking emaciated was sexy or fashionable. And if they did, it's because they liked being perceived as sick or unhealthily thin. I reread my post and didn't mean to sound so harsh, but obviously the subject is close to my heart too. As atm23 said, I'd HIGHLY recommend purchasing some Ensure Plus ASAP!! The plus are the ones with 100 extra calls than the regular ones, bringing em to 350 per 8 ounces. If you could get yourself onto a diet where you could get up to a 2k cal / day intake using these as a supplement, I think you'd be doing yourself a huge favor. Definitely try to stick to high caloric density foods (peanut butter is wussup) that take up less mass in your stomach to avoid getting sick. PM me if you wanna talk about anything :\
 
Dextroamphetamine causes MAD/INSANE appetite suppression. I would know - I've been on it for many years now.

Don't take this the wrong way, but this means you are on way too high of a dosage. I've never seen anyone on 60mg of Dexedrine, especially not 20mg IR at a time. I think you might be looking for the wrong things from ADD medication therapy. It shouldn't be giving you a forced sense of motivation, or fixing your procrastination issues, but rather just normalize your focus levels, so that by using behavorial modification techniques to correct for motivation and procrastination, you can focus normally. The rest is up to you.

ADD medications, especially CNS specific ones like Dexedrine, should not cause appetite suppresion if dosed properly, think about it. The purpose of ADD medications is to raise prefrontal DA levels to a normal transmitting level. Normal people (who don't have ADD nor take Dexedrine) who have normal prefrontal DA levels have no problems with anorexia. You are pushing your naturally low prefrontal DA levels past normal transmitting levels in to abuse levels, bringing on insomnia, anorexia, etc. You might not feel insomnia due to the benzos you are on, though.

ADD medications that are dosed properly usually stimulate appetite in most users, including myself, as they allow me to remember to actually eat instead of getting hyperfocused on a single interesting activity for 6-7 hours when I'm sober. At this point, your ADD will not be controlled at a normal dosage of 30-40mg Dexedrine daily, taken 10mg at a time, since you are dependent on a higher dosage, but I'm just letting you know that you are probably taking too high of a dosage.

I know, I know, "everyone is wired differently." The rare people who actually require 60mg of Dexedrine a day have rock-bottom levels of prefrontal DA, probably so bad that they would simply forget to eat until dinner time, and they bring those up to normal transmitting levels with their medication, again, not suppressing appetite.
 
Well Desoxyn is extremely rare, but I'm telling you I had a lot of trouble finding a pharmacy that carried Dexedrine when I first got them scripted. I remember the day I got the script and I went to every pharmacy within a 5 mile radius of my house and none carried it. I was shocked. They all carried Adderall, but not Dexedrine. I didn't get it filled until the next day. I started to call pharmacies instead of driving around looking for them. Some were reluctant to give out that info over the phone and others said no. Until I called this one Rita Aid and finally they said they carried it. I hurried over to that pharmacy and got my script filled (actually, a Kroger pharmacy also carried it, but they were more expensive at Krogers so I went with the Rite Aid).

Anytime a pharmacy i was at didn't have a med I was scripted, they always offered to special order it and stock it for me. If you have multiple scripts and it'd be more convenient to get em all at one pharmacy, you should def ask them if they could do this for you too! ;)
 
Don't take this the wrong way, but this means you are on way too high of a dosage. I've never seen anyone on 60mg of Dexedrine, especially not 20mg IR at a time. I think you might be looking for the wrong things from ADD medication therapy. It shouldn't be giving you a forced sense of motivation, or fixing your procrastination issues, but rather just normalize your focus levels, so that by using behavorial modification techniques to correct for motivation and procrastination, you can focus normally. The rest is up to you.

ADD medications, especially CNS specific ones like Dexedrine, should not cause appetite suppresion if dosed properly, think about it. The purpose of ADD medications is to raise prefrontal DA levels to a normal transmitting level. Normal people (who don't have ADD nor take Dexedrine) who have normal prefrontal DA levels have no problems with anorexia. You are pushing your naturally low prefrontal DA levels past normal transmitting levels in to abuse levels, bringing on insomnia, anorexia, etc. You might not feel insomnia due to the benzos you are on, though.

ADD medications that are dosed properly usually stimulate appetite in most users, including myself, as they allow me to remember to actually eat instead of getting hyperfocused on a single interesting activity for 6-7 hours when I'm sober. At this point, your ADD will not be controlled at a normal dosage of 30-40mg Dexedrine daily, taken 10mg at a time, since you are dependent on a higher dosage, but I'm just letting you know that you are probably taking too high of a dosage.

I know, I know, "everyone is wired differently." The rare people who actually require 60mg of Dexedrine a day have rock-bottom levels of prefrontal DA, probably so bad that they would simply forget to eat until dinner time, and they bring those up to normal transmitting levels with their medication, again, not suppressing appetite.

I am scripted Dexedrine 10 mg IR and I take 20 mg 3x/day. I should've been more clear, but I am speaking strictly on basis of the drug. Dextroamphetamine causes serious appetite suppression, there's no doubt about that. I didn't say I starve because I'm on Dexedrine. In fact, I eat normally throughout the day now. But when I first started taking Dexedrine, I wasn't able to eat much for at least the first 2 weeks at therapeutic doses. However, I do on occasion take more than I'm prescribed at once for a good buzz and at doses of 50-60 mg, I can't eat anything. What I meant was that the drug itself is a serious cause of appetite suppression or anorexia (not the disorder, of course), even at therapeutic doses for those that aren't tolerant. Someone with no tolerance to amphetamines at all will not want to eat on even as low of a dose as 5 mg.

Anytime a pharmacy i was at didn't have a med I was scripted, they always offered to special order it and stock it for me. If you have multiple scripts and it'd be more convenient to get em all at one pharmacy, you should def ask them if they could do this for you too! ;)

I do get all my meds from one pharmacy. The same Rite Aid I get the Dexedrine from is where I get all my meds from.
 
I am scripted Dexedrine 10 mg IR and I take 20 mg 3x/day. I should've been more clear, but I am speaking strictly on basis of the drug. Dextroamphetamine causes serious appetite suppression, there's no doubt about that. I didn't say I starve because I'm on Dexedrine. In fact, I eat normally throughout the day now. But when I first started taking Dexedrine, I wasn't able to eat much for at least the first 2 weeks at therapeutic doses. However, I do on occasion take more than I'm prescribed at once for a good buzz and at doses of 50-60 mg, I can't eat anything. What I meant was that the drug itself is a serious cause of appetite suppression or anorexia (not the disorder, of course), even at therapeutic doses for those that aren't tolerant. Someone with no tolerance to amphetamines at all will not want to eat on even as low of a dose as 5 mg.

Yeah, I remembered how much you take, I meant to add the word "daily" after "60mg Dexedrine." I agree, Dex "causes serious appetite suppression," if abused, that is. Dexamphetamine is simply a tool used to raise DA/NE levels. Raised DA levels result in increased appetite suppresion, euphoria, stimulation, insomnia, motivation, feelsgoodman effects, etc. Now, the only reason people with ADD are scripted these powerful drugs are only because they don't cause these side effects when dosed properly.

Do you tend to hyperfocus intensely, get euphoric, pick at your skin, not sleep properly, etc at your normal dosages now? If not, then it's the right (non-abusive) dosage for you. 20mg x 3 is certainly not a ridiculous dosage, plenty of people are on a dosage like that. I just didn't want people to interpret your posts to think that "mad/insane appetite suppression" was normal from their ADD meds. Some of us might be able to therapeutically use a dosage like that, but for most ADD adults, anything more than 20-30mg daily is straight up abuse. And this is without opiates and other DA increasing drugs that can have DA synergy. We mustn't forget that there are a lot of impressionable drug naive and young people lurking these boards, let's not give them the wrong ideas.

Personally, I don't take opiates on a regular basis anymore, and 15-20mg Dex IR daily dosed over 10-12 hours is enough for my severe inattentive ADD. I'm still my unmotivated, procrastinating mess of a self, but I accept that drugs aren't meant to fix that, and am working tentatively with my behavioral psychologist, who fortunately happens to have severe inattentive ADD (like myself) to fix that. ADD medicines shouldn't force you to get things done that you aren't interested in, they just regulate focus.
 
^ No I don't get hyperfocused, stimulated or euphoric at my regular doses. I do, however, become focused and less distracted. I sleep normally and I eat normally on my regular dosing. It's when I take it to get high is when I get hyperfocused, sweating, very euphoric, stay up all night or 2 nights. When I start getting high on it, I can't stop redosing for at least the first 24 hours to keep the high going, so sometimes I'm up for longer than 1 or 2 days. However, I don't do this often as it leaves me with a very small amount of pills or no pills at all and then I'm a mess until the following script.

I am on 130 mg/day methadone and I also get the fentanyl 25 mcg patch. So I do take opioids. I don't do heroin or morphine for recreational purposes much anymore. Sometimes I'll get some dope and IV it, but it rarely does anything because of the methadone. But I take a lot of benzos.
 
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