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A 5-htp question

xtcnation

xtcnation

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This has probably been answered many times before but i could not find it in the directory.

I plan on taking mdma again in about four weeks. For the first time iv decided to give preloading with 5-htp a try. I have 50mg capsules. Should i take them daily right up until the day i plan to roll? Or should i stop taking the 5-htp a few days prior to taking the mdma? Im not sure if it would be dangerous with serotonin trying to build up but with the mdma releasing it? I could be completely have the wrong idea, could someone explain? :)
 
I believe 5-HTP is best used the next day after a roll, to normalize serotonin level.
Loading with serotonin then plan on depleting it with MDMA, has been linked to a higher probability serotonin syndrome.
I would tell my friends if they still go ahead, it's better to eliminate 5-htp at least a day before.

However I think even if I do take a risk for a fair share of 'magick', it won't be worth it considering I will be loosing 'magick' in my future trips.

Try loading with piracetam and choline, heard "magick" starts all over again, you can always load piracetam with no adverse effects.
Load like 4-8 grams 2-4 hour before, and a choline preferably something simple like choline bitartrate 1 hour before.

Hope I made sense.
 
dont take 5-htp the day of your roll. More risk for serotonin syndrome, and if i recall, it can dull ur roll as well. I only use it after a roll.
 
Thanks for the replys guys yeah that makes sense. So would you say taking 5-htp is unhealthy then? How is it messing up the dopamine side of things? Seeing as i have aquired 5-htp i may give it a go for a few weeks and maybe stop a week before my roll. Would there still be a risk it dull it? I need to buy piracetam really....
 
Checked sams diet also, i like the dark chocolate theory i most definitely will be giving that a go.
 
xtcnation said:
Thanks for the replys guys yeah that makes sense. So would you say taking 5-htp is unhealthy then? How is it messing up the dopamine side of things? Seeing as i have aquired 5-htp i may give it a go for a few weeks and maybe stop a week before my roll. Would there still be a risk it dull it? I need to buy piracetam really....
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I think the only risk of it dulling your roll is if you are taking it the day of your roll or a few days before. A week off it and eat sams foods and you should be good.
 
On second thought's if your whole purpose to load 5-HTP is to have a suber uber awesome roll, why not just up your dosage of MDMA itself?
Increase intensity as u desire every hour and half with MDMA itself ! ;)

One a side note 50 Mg per pill is a low dose of 5-HTP for loading for a roll.
I'm guessing you will need to pop more than 6 pills, spread apart. :!
 
5-HTP before your roll is not good. I find that 5-HTP is best used AFTER your roll. It's also not good to use 5-HTP daily (for the most part) as it can make your body not able to produce serotonin as well. So using it for 3 weeks, then not for 1 week, probably isn't a good idea. I would guess that would make your roll worse rather than better.

ashe said:
However I think even if I do take a risk for a fair share of 'magick', it won't be worth it considering I will be loosing 'magick' in my future trips.

Try loading with piracetam and choline, heard "magick" starts all over again, you can always load piracetam with no adverse effects.
Load like 4-8 grams 2-4 hour before, and a choline preferably something simple like choline bitartrate 1 hour before.
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I've tried pre-loading with piracetam because I heard it makes you roll much better but it did NOT work for me (tried it twice). If anything, it dulled my roll the second time I tried it. I find that piracetam works well for not having as bad of a hangover but it doesn't actually increase your roll. (From my experience)
 
What if someone normally takes 5hpt for anxiety not for pre or post load, but actually taking it for what it was meant for? Is there any caution on using it before your roll? Would you have to stop about a week before or so?
 
LibraZ said:
What if someone normally takes 5hpt for anxiety not for pre or post load, but actually taking it for what it was meant for? Is there any caution on using it before your roll? Would you have to stop about a week before or so?
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It depends on how long you've been taking it and how much you've been taking. If you've been taking 50+ mg daily for a month or longer, you're brain has likely become dependent on the 5HTP to make serotonin.
 
This is exaclty how I got serotonin syndrome... I pre-loaded with 5-htp, I had also been taking 5-htp daily for a couple days before hand. However, I didn't experience SS until two days after I rolled. I continued to take 5-htp for these two days and on the second day it hit me while ripping a bong. I'd say you'd be better off not taking it directly before rolling. If you have your mind set on this, a few people have done without experiencing SS, some however say it hinders the roll. I'm not so sure if it effected my roll at all, so I'd there isn't too much of a reason to want to do so. But just to be safe I'd definintely recommend not taking it before, if you do, dont take it after.
 
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xtcnation said:
Seeing as i have aquired 5-htp i may give it a go for a few weeks and maybe stop a week before my roll. Would there still be a risk it dull it? I need to buy piracetam really....
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The risk would still be dull, but the longer you go without 5-htp I'd imagine the risk greatly descreasing. I can't attest to piracetam but there is research saying that it does help restart neurogenesis and prevent atrophy while rolling. I'm not sure if there really has been as much damage from the 5-htp but I can't see it hurting.
 
This is true, but I was directing my comment to the OP who didn't say he had been taking 5-htp daily for a long time.
 
Im kind of regretting buying it after hearing what everyone has said. I dont want to have to become dependant on something to produce serotonin, certainly would hate to get SS. I see there is pros and cons to 5-htp but possibly more cons? I have read that it can effect sex drive, could this be a massive problem or just when taking alot of 5-htp? I like the sound of the anti anxiety effects, i didnt buy it just for strengthening my roll, hmm to continue taking it or not.
 
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Its not all bad.. I enjoyed taking it before SS of crouse. Just don't underestimate it. If you aren't a person who is frequently depressed or anxious there is no need to take it daily. Take is occasionally if you enjoy it, but realize it can have severe contraindictions if used improperly, plenty of drugs can and 5-htp is no different.
 
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