I failed at quiting

[pirates_]

I was taking a very lose dose of suboxones for 2 days..like 7 mg a day..just for those 2 days...I guess I was taking such a small amount, it never gof rid of my H w/d's..so i called my dealer up. Before you tell me its a waste of time and dope and money..idc.. i just want to make sure my breathing aint gonna stop from mixing..my last bupe dose was 1mg hour ago, and 3 mg 12 hours ago

 

[Pjkt2501]

You're likely not going to feel any of the heroin for a simple reason: buprenorphine has a higher binding affinity to the u-opioid receptor than diamorphine does.

However, don't stress the speedbumps, it takes time to leave everything behind.

 

[pirates_]

im not high, but i feel better. could be in my head, could be the h.either way I feel a little better. Thanks.
and yeah I know its gonna take time. I thought i could do this with out a doctor, but yeah.. I need the pros

Also since the subs, stop the H from getting threw to my brain a) does this mean my detox will continue as if I just never took the H and B) Do I have to wait 18 hours before using subs again?

 

[Pjkt2501]

7mg/day isn't a very low dose; .125mg/day is a very low dose for buprenorphine.

However, the initial level needed is likely higher than you dosed; if you're not "satisfied" take more after 90 minutes (of suboxone).

Taking this H shouldn't cause any hiccups, but I have never been enrolled in a program and don't know the specifics, sorry.

 

[pirates_]

7mg/day isn't a very low dose; .125mg/day is a very low dose for buprenorphine.

However, the initial level needed is likely higher than you dosed; if you're not "satisfied" take more after 90 minutes (of suboxone).

Taking this H shouldn't cause any hiccups, but I have never been enrolled in a program and don't know the specifics, sorry.

This H isnt doing a damn thing to me......I refuse to take more suboxones. I get very dizzy, and feel like I am going to throw up when I am on themI dont know if this is normal, or not. Either way I dont like it.. i feel like i dug my self into a deeper hole by taking these subs w/o a dr.... I guess i just gotta ride this out until the subs GTFO my brain ..if i do decide to quit its gonna have to be a taper..this was just too hard

also.. I did about .1 of tar..is it safe for me to take subs right now?

 

[Carl Landrover]

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The dizzyness and nausea were likely because you were taking too much sub. As was already mentioned, .1-.2mg is a low dose.

 

[pirates_]

Its an 8mg strip. How would I figure out .1 mgs?

 

[Allein]

Hey pirates_ I can't help on your question but please don;t see this as a failure and go back to the H just because of this current shit. You clearly wanted to come off otherwise you wouldn't have been trying.

Its early days, don't throw the towel in now, you can get through this and get back on track, I can't speak from experience on this one but the road is not going to be easy and no doubt the wheels are going to fall off more than once, but nothing is broken beyond repair.

Sounds like your takin steps, hang on in there and you'll see results in the end, you don;t want to be spending the rest of your life running around after H, I'm sure you can do so much more.

 

[Pjkt2501]

If they're strips, simple:

1) cut it in half, you have now 2x 4mg
2) take 4mg, cut in half
3) 2mg, halved
4) 1mg, halved
5) .5mg, halved
6) .25mg, halved
7) .125mg attained

This isn't super easy if one has hand tremors or is without a fairly sharp pair of scissors (to get past 1mg anyway).

The pills are 398mg, and if a scale that goes to .000g is around, bingo for that too. My scale goes to .00, so when I want 1mg I cut it to ~48-50mg with an exacto blade. Or shave it off, and keep weighing the intact pill until it's down to .350 for 1mg dose. Eyeball from there (usually NOT advisable, but in this case this leaves a fair amount of bupe powder to deal with).

 

[tokenname]

Op..
You've succeeded at putting forth effort.
It's really all any of us can do...and alot more than most
have done lately.

Failure is temporary..
and some would even say nonexistent.

token

 

[LivingOnValium]

Its an 8mg strip. How would I figure out .1 mgs?

You're trying to avoid withdrawals right?

I suggest not to go that low on the dose. Try taking 2mg the next time (1/4 strip). It should be high enough dose to make you feel good but not too high considering the sides (nausea, headache, dizziness etc.).

 

[Pjkt2501]

You're trying to avoid withdrawals right?

I suggest not to go that low on the dose. Try taking 2mg the next time (1/4 strip). It should be high enough dose to make you feel good but not too high considering the sides (nausea, headache, dizziness etc.).

For an intermediary dose this is correct, but to kick initially there needs to be enough bupe in his system to fully strip / keep off any other opiate floating around in there. Then the doses can start coming down.

 

[Carl Landrover]

Its an 8mg strip. How would I figure out .1 mgs?

Get a ruler and measure the strip out in millimeters. Divide 8 by the number of millimeters (I think it was somewhere around 18mm?). For example if the strip measured 18mm each millimeter would be .44mg of suboxone.

Basically you should get down to the point where you are taking a very, very tiny piece. I would use a pair of small scissors and just cut out a tiny square.

You're trying to avoid withdrawals right?

I suggest not to go that low on the dose. Try taking 2mg the next time (1/4 strip). It should be high enough dose to make you feel good but not too high considering the sides (nausea, headache, dizziness etc.).

Anytime you're tapering you're going to feel some discomfort. I do agree that jumping down to .1mg is too drastic right now and 2mg seems like a good starting point. It takes a bit of time and patience to get down to lower doses, but ideally that's where you should end up if you're trying to stop using sub and trying to stay clean.

 

[Swain]

I like having Roxanne pills because the 8mg are exactly 400mg so it makes it really easy to accurately weigh doses. 50mg=1mg bupe 5mg=.1mg bupe. I have been using this method (crushign to powder and weighing on an MG scale) for al ong time. it works great.

if i was using the strips I would use a water measuring method.. like dissolve one 8mg pill into 3 cc's and dose accordingly or something

 

[Pjkt2501]

If they're strips, simple:

1) cut it in half, you have now 2x 4mg
2) take 4mg, cut in half
3) 2mg, halved
4) 1mg, halved
5) .5mg, halved
6) .25mg, halved
7) .125mg attained

This isn't super easy if one has hand tremors or is without a fairly sharp pair of scissors (to get past 1mg anyway).

The pills are 398mg, and if a scale that goes to .000g is around, bingo for that too. My scale goes to .00, so when I want 1mg I cut it to ~48-50mg with an exacto blade. Or shave it off, and keep weighing the intact pill until it's down to .350 for 1mg dose. Eyeball from there (usually NOT advisable, but in this case this leaves a fair amount of bupe powder to deal with).

Dosing made easy..

I'm going to close this as it's run its course. OP: feel free to PM me, and I can clean this up and send it to TDS if you'd like further support. Otherwise, I would still suggest going to hang out over in TDS - they'll give you the support you need mate.

Good luck.