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Taking caffeine with Molly -- is it safe?

devorzon

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Molly tends to make me sleepy, and I seem to have good experiences in the past with pills that have tested to have both MDMA and caffeine in them on ecstacydata. I plan to drop 175-200 mg of Molly (tested good) and was wondering if it would be okay take some vivarin or no- doz along with it, like maybe the recommended dose to stay up for 4 hours or so. I know the Molly can be hard on your heart and don't know if the caffeine would make it worse or even dangerous. Also most likely will be taking levitra before the comedown hits so I can have sex with my girlfriend. I know definitely levitra makes your heart work harder but it's the only way for me, just cannot get it up while on MDMA. Anyone have any caffeine tips?
 
U should b fine mixing caffiene w mdma unless ur 84yo and have a bad heart which would explain why u have levitra in ur possession.
 
Caffeine is fine with MDMA - One word of warning though, if your very sensitive to caffeine then it can make you feel a bit jittery if you take too much. Not really many tips that you can get apart from don't take too much.

Start with a low dose, if you need a bit of an extra lift take a bit more - It starts to work pretty quickly so you can find your own sweet spot pretty quickly. I find caffeine pills are easier on your stomach than the likes of Redbull / Energy drinks - depending on how sensitive you are to caffeine try 20mgs / 100mgs MDMA. If you still feel a bit too floored take another 5 / 10mgs of caffeine when you come up from the MDMA.

Just be careful with the Levitra afterwards - sounds like a fun night planned though :)
 
caffeine pills should be fine.... but why don't you try it this way ... you said you going to take levitra before the come down of mdma, so im assuming you will be taking levitra after you took mdma.... try taking levitra 3 hours before you even take mdma, and don't take any caffeine pills this time... i could probably bet, you will have enough energy, and wont need the caffeine pills to keep you awake.... the half life of levitra is 5 hours.
i will also bet, you will enjoy , this time better with your girl :-)..... this used to happen to me, so i started taking cialis ( 1), 5 hours before i took mdma, and give enough energy , to go on all night....
 
I find that taking Cialis the evening before rolling day works best for me. I have read in the past on this forum that caffeine tends to kill the roll, but I have no personal experience of that.
 
I find caffeine pills are easier on your stomach than the likes of Redbull / Energy drinks
Just wanted to say I've taken some caffeine pills before that were some cheap brand and they made my stomach hurt.

I don't think it was the caffeine pills themselves, just the brand of the ones that I took. Perhaps the filler used?

I trust Bearlove's judgement about caffeine pills I would just be careful not to use some generic gas station brand (the ones I used)
 
Like bearlove said, too much caffeine can definitely make the roll a bit too jittery for my taste.

When I roll and want to add in a little caffeine, i SPLIT one of those small redbulls with my girl and it is more than adequate. They contain about 80 mgs of caffeine, so we are talking only like 40 mgs each. If the energy drinks are too rough (or taste too horrible while rolling)...

Anhydrous caffeine is also useful--you can weigh out the exact amount that you want to ingest-- When we go to shows, sometimes we will just add 20 mgs or so to our molly capsules.

... and i don't consider myself to be particularly sensitive to caffeine.
 
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I generally mix mdma with caffeine powder taken after the comeup so i know how much i want. Definitely take it slow, it hits you hard and really changes the roll. I was talking to some middle aged people at a club, one of them told me he missed the old pills that had more of a stimulant kick to them saying the pills about now seemed to be just mdma (I live in London incase your wondering) I gave him some caffeine powder which he shared with 2 friends (all on md)they just had a dab each but they all enjoyed it with one ending up dancing so crazily within a minute (powder caffeine hits VERY fast) he nearly knocked me over a table to everyone's amusement
 
The comedown can be harsher and caffeine with MDMA makes it more neurotoxic.. If you dont overdo it you will be fine.
I personally like about a 100mg of caffeine with it
 
Just wanted to say I've taken some caffeine pills before that were some cheap brand and they made my stomach hurt.

I don't think it was the caffeine pills themselves, just the brand of the ones that I took. Perhaps the filler used?

I trust Bearlove's judgement about caffeine pills I would just be careful not to use some generic gas station brand (the ones I used)

The brands make a lot of difference - Just the smell of something like Redbull can make me feel very ill (It smells like vomit). In the UK you can buy brands like Proplus in most supermarkets / shops - either a box or strip. I personally use caffeine pills (200mgs per pill) - quarter or half with a nice dose of MDMA and Im fine - just enough energy to jump about - not too much that I cant sleep afterwards.
 
As I have already stated - If you take too much your going to ruin your night/roll. You will be jittery / feeling like your speeding (in a bad way) sweating your tits off and you will be unable to sleep / come down (easily).

Caffeine is a stimulant !
 
If the pills are USP the brand should make no difference, unless of course one is prone to adverse or idiosyncratic reactions to specific inactives in that brand of pill.
USP of course only applies to the US(duh :P), but I'm sure other countries have a rough equivalent.
 
If the pills are USP the brand should make no difference, unless of course one is prone to adverse or idiosyncratic reactions to specific inactives in that brand of pill.
USP of course only applies to the US(duh :P), but I'm sure other countries have a rough equivalent.
Not sure what brand it was but I got it from a gas station and it was generic. It wasn't a good name brand. They had the better one I took before and had no issues with, but I tried to pinch some pennies and ended up with a stomach ache and an uncontrollable appetite. It was weird, usually caffeine pills make me not hungry.
 
Not sure what brand it was but I got it from a gas station and it was generic. It wasn't a good name brand. They had the better one I took before and had no issues with, but I tried to pinch some pennies and ended up with a stomach ache and an uncontrollable appetite. It was weird, usually caffeine pills make me not hungry.

EDIT:Just thinking now the batch may of caffeine pills I took that were generic cheap brand and could very well have been a bad batch or something.
 
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