Shooting Heroin or..

[pirates_]

staff u may close this if you like

 

[THECATINTHEHAT]

Start cutting down is the only really sensible advice. Don't move on to a more direct route of admin, you'll only be back here saying you can't afford to carry on smoking in a few weeks and then the only real option left is shooting. Not many people can fit rectal admin into their daily life, and it'll only result in even higher tolerance due to the increased bioavailability, so if you do you're likely to gravitate towards the needle.

Seriously mate, it sounds like you're at a crossroads in your life, and believe me when I say that there's only really one route that will bring good things in to your life.

I wish you luck.

 

[the_ketaman]

Thats a very smart decision mate, im glad you decided against the needle, sking popping or IM'ing tar is one of the worst things you could do with heroin IMO. Its nice to get a fresh breath of air and actually have someone LISTEN to us users who know where IV use leads to. I fucking hate reading all these threads where people are already addicted to heroin and they want help getting control over their lives and you see in other threads that they are going downhill, yet they still want a better hit and want to try IV because they think theyre invincible and think they will be able to control it. They think they are fine and it wont get them, then you read their post a few weeks or months later and they in a worse position they were when they were sniffing and theyre begging for help and wondering why theyre fucked. Its because they didnt fucking LISTEN! I dont regret sticking a needle in my arm but I doubt id go that path again as im sure I wouldnt have to use so much to get a decent high. I have no sympathy whatsoever for people who dont listen and end up fucked on the needle, not my problem they didnt listen, now they have to deal with it. I dont waste my time on dumb cunts which obviously your not one of. Good stuff mate.

I know you are done with this thread but why may I ask are you embarrassed to plug? Noone will be watching you, you dont have to tell anyone and its by far the best method to use H and most other drugs without using a needle. Im almost sure if you tried plugging you wouldnt want to use any other method, it works really well, it hits you REALLY quickly and you wont have to use as much as you would sniffing or smoking . Once you try it you will get over how awkward it is. What did you decide to do, have you kept sniffing or did you try plugging?

 

[pirates_]

Because god is watching you when you plug Im jk..I dont know..it just seems wrong..I wish I could stop, but I give up on giving up. Im doing my best to avoid getting deeper in by limiting the amount that I take in every day to the same amount every day. Even though I dont get high..I am functional versus being useless without. The way I figure, as long as I dont increase my dosage too much, the less likely I will be to further increase my tolerance. Is this correct?

 

[Swain]

When ever I hear about someone skin popping, or IMing tar or pills, I think to my self that person is ignorant. They definitely do not have a computer and have never been to this site. And I also think if they are a girl how disgusting they probably look with lumps all over their arms abscesses and shit oozing all over her. Disgusting eww.

Dont even consider skin popping. Or iv'ing for that matter.. bad idea pointless.

To avoid getting in deeper you need to stop now.

You are correct the less you incrase your dose the less your tolerance will go up. Why are you useless without opiates?

 

[verso]

Pirates, Tommyboy is bang on the money. Switching to IV will be a more economical ROA at first sure, and you'll be able to use half the amount you're currently using or even less maybe but it won't last. Your tolerance will ramp up dramatically with IV as the brain adjusts to the harder, more immediate slam, to the point that within a few weeks you will be IVing the same amount you're currently snorting just to stay straight. If anything in time you might well find you end up using more than you are now because of IVs shorter duration, or to get much of a hit. It's a trap mate, trust me. Switching to IV will not serve any useful purpose in the end.

I wish I could show your post to every god damn person who tells me I'm "wasting" my dope when I sniff it.

I understand bioavailability, and I understand that, technically, intranasal administration is the less effective route of course... but it's effective enough, and making the switch to slamming dope is no more beneficial in the long-run.

It's like people have this idea that if it's not intravenous, if it's not 100% bioavailability, then it's not effective. But anyone who has ever blown down a line of opana knows that, despite its ~40% intranasal bioavailability, it's still very potent and very effective. It gets you high, man, so what's the problem?

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

When people claim that snorting heroin is a waste of dope, they're really only referring to the short term..the here and now, without obviously factoring in the long-term bull shit that comes from fixing. But, in the short term..it is a waste. However that's relative to everyones personal position. Meaning, for someone who is an IV user, and has been an IV user..to go back to snorting would be a waste because they'd have to do a lot more and still never get that rush. However, to someone who has never IV'ed before, snorting isn't a waste because it's all they know.. Either way, in the immediate moment, you will get higher if you IV than sniff..that's just how it is. But, if you can force yourself to look down the road a little..you gain nothing besides that 30 second rush and the amount of dope it takes you to get that rush, goes up to an insane degree. People want different things from their highs. Some people don't make a big deal out of the rush. They don't really care for it. They want the long lasting subtle high. But others, like me..unforturantly..only use dope because of the rush. Without it, the drug has no meaning to me.

 

[Tommyboy]

^ Mr Scagnattie hit the finger on the plunger (or nail on the head for you traditional folk) with his post. Snorting it is only really somewhat of a waste if you have become accustomed to IVing it and the increased BA that comes along with doing so. You really need to be thinking long term with this though. I still sniff my dope (have been using for almost 6 years now, on and off) although I have IV'd 15x or so in all of those years, and I still get plenty high from sniffing my doses due to taking breaks, and saving my higher doses for no more than once a week. I haven't IVd in close to two months, and I am glad that I didn't go down that road. I had been debating IVing again recently due to a weak batch, but sure enough I got a good batch a few days ago, and sniffing 3 bags had me as high as I wanted to be.

Because god is watching you when you plug Im jk..I dont know..it just seems wrong..I wish I could stop, but I give up on giving up. Im doing my best to avoid getting deeper in by limiting the amount that I take in every day to the same amount every day. Even though I dont get high..I am functional versus being useless without. The way I figure, as long as I dont increase my dosage too much, the less likely I will be to further increase my tolerance. Is this correct?

Have you considered suboxone maintenance? If you are mostly using dope just to stay straight, then why not just get on suboxone which is a lot more effective in that aspect?

 

[captainballs]

Am I the only person who thinks that skin popping, i.e. basically missing a shot, hurts like hell and causes giant swollen red spots? Fuck skin popping. If you're against IV, then good. You are better off just sticking with the nose for the extra legs you don't yet appreciate. Or just quit while you're ahead.......... mark my words you will eventually shoot this shit if you don't stop. It is part of the culture, trying to avoid it is futile.

 

[the_ketaman]

Yeh im with you CB, I get itchy enough as it is with ope's, if I skin popped or missed id need a massive dose of anti-histamines. Luckily I never, ever miss shots and actually dont understand how people do miss so often. IV'ing is one of the easiest things do to that I could think of, I suppose I can understand missing part of a shot but people miss whole shots all the time. These people need better technique!

Fuck skin-popping! Ive never heard of anyone doing it here in Australia unless its a drug given sub-cutaneously in hospital.

 

[Swain]

First of all...I just went threw all my old post.....and its depressing...I joined this site for help on some very minor stuff.....and now I am spending 50 a day on heroin...lol gosh darn..oh well I got money to support my habit so its all good i guess..but anyways....

My nose is gettin raw, my throat is always itchy, and Im tired of always having a runny nose..so I want to get this shit from the bag to my brain the fastest route.....without IV'in... or maybe I will..idk..A while back I had a friend show me how she "skin" pops H..it uses a needle but she said it was different from IV'in..I didnt really pay attention on how she did it..so I am coming here for some help, and possibly some advice!.

Your friend is not smart.. do not take advice from her.

First of all do not start IVing. SEcond of all skin popping is a horrible practice. She probably does that because #1 she blows at IVing #2 all her veins are shot or #3 shes fat or #4 shes mentally retarded

Sniffing is your best bet man. There is no alternative really... starting an IV habit is simply a bad choice with absolutely no benefit.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

First of all do not start IVing. SEcond of all skin popping is a horrible practice. She probably does that because #1 she blows at IVing #2 all her veins are shot or #3 shes fat or #4 shes mentally retarded

Hah, yup. That about overs it.

 

[LeLouche]

The heroin I get is so strong that even the amount that is still on the needle from being inside a cotton causes massive histamine reactions in my skin, but those don't hurt at all, and they go away. Although it's pretty bad when people ask WTF is that?

Anyway, skin popping....no, don't do it.

If you are going to use a needle either plug it, or IV it. I don't see any benefits to IM or SC routes unless it's your last resort, but then I'd recommend some other medical help.

Also what I tend to do now when I get a bag of dope is I always sniff a little line, and shoot the rest. I really like the taste and I don't mind if it sticks around a little longer...

Am I the only one who would buy a candy bar or ice cream if it was dope flavored? I think NOT!