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pirates_

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First of all...I just went threw all my old post.....and its depressing...I joined this site for help on some very minor stuff.....and now I am spending 50 a day on heroin...lol gosh darn..oh well I got money to support my habit so its all good i guess..but anyways....

My nose is gettin raw, my throat is always itchy, and Im tired of always having a runny nose..so I want to get this shit from the bag to my brain the fastest route.....without IV'in... or maybe I will..idk..A while back I had a friend show me how she "skin" pops H..it uses a needle but she said it was different from IV'in..I didnt really pay attention on how she did it..so I am coming here for some help, and possibly some advice!.
 
I dont know the bioavailability for this but why not try plugging instead of going down the path of IVing, it sounds like a really bad idea if you are already addicted. Have you considered getting on a treatment program?
 
I might plug it.. and yes i thought about getting on the treatment program..but i keep putting it off...my goal was to get on methadone before it came to using needles..and i guess plugging will be my last resort..ive never plugged anything before..so ahhhh im not to sure if ill do that...just in case i do the needle thing..where can I go to get rigs with out any problems? also how do i prepare a shot?
 
Skin popping is really dangerous so definitely don't do it. Try plugging, or even making a solution and filtering it to administer by dripping into your nostrils.
 
Thanks for the link madog. I may try it with a small amount today..i think im just really embarrased to do it.

Tommy Boy, I have done the tar mixed with water in a visine dropper before, to me it seems like it works better than snorting it, but I also feel like I can get so much more out if i use a needle. If the mixture happens to go strait down to my stomach, wouldnt that be a waste? Also why is skin popping dangerous? it seemed safe to me
 
Skin popping is dangerous because the contents of the drug end up sitting in that same spot for a while, which can cause abscesses. As for dropping liquid into your nostrils, if you do it slow enough and use each nostril there shouldn't be much dripping down into your stomach.

NSFW:
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^ And that's one of the least nasty pics I could find on the net.

Let me ask you a question. What positives do you see coming from IV heroin use? I want to IV heroin because _______ and I think it is a good idea since _________. I guarantee that I can provide an argument against any reason other than maybe getting a rush from IV use, which I actually don't even like.
 
because.. im spending alot of money a day for high that does not last partly due to the lower BA of threw the nose usage.....and it is not a good idea..but neither is heroin use in general :)
 
pirates_ said:
because.. im spending alot of money a day for high that does not last partly due to the lower BA of threw the nose usage.....and it is not a good idea..but neither is heroin use in general :)
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IV heroin lasts shorter than nasal. I wish that I could name even 1 person that I know that actually saved money by switching to IV use, but I really can't. Even my friend that just switched from nasal to IV 2 weeks ago is already shooting the same amount that he was sniffing. Trust me, you will end up feeling withdrawals a lot quicker after switching to IV, so you will end up using twice as often, thus raising your tolerance to the same amount of bags it was when you were snorting. In theory switching your ROA from nasal to IV would save you money, but thats not the case 90% of the time.
 
Pirates, Tommyboy is bang on the money. Switching to IV will be a more economical ROA at first sure, and you'll be able to use half the amount you're currently using or even less maybe but it won't last. Your tolerance will ramp up dramatically with IV as the brain adjusts to the harder, more immediate slam, to the point that within a few weeks you will be IVing the same amount you're currently snorting just to stay straight. If anything in time you might well find you end up using more than you are now because of IVs shorter duration, or to get much of a hit. It's a trap mate, trust me. Switching to IV will not serve any useful purpose in the end.
 
If u do use the needle not only will ur dependency upon heroin become increased but u will have a whole new world of drug use available to u plus addiction to the needle itself. Ive been ivin dope for awhile and although i dont regret it, i highly doubt ill ever be free of the needle or dopes grasp on me. N now wen ne powders come my way i only sniff a tiny bit so i kno im puttin dope in my arm. But u can get rigs from the pharmacy, ask the receptionist for 1cc long tip insulin syringes in the smalest gauge, probably be 30 or 31. N watch some utube videos on how to safely inject drugs, n u still might want a person with experience to get you your first couple of times or until u feel comfortable doin it urself.
 
psychonaut.js said:
If u do use the needle not only will ur dependency upon heroin become increased but u will have a whole new world of drug use available to u plus addiction to the needle itself. Ive been ivin dope for awhile and although i dont regret it, i highly doubt ill ever be free of the needle or dopes grasp on me. N now wen ne powders come my way i only sniff a tiny bit so i kno im puttin dope in my arm. But u can get rigs from the pharmacy, ask the receptionist for 1cc long tip insulin syringes in the smalest gauge, probably be 30 or 31. N watch some utube videos on how to safely inject drugs, n u still might want a person with experience to get you your first couple of times or until u feel comfortable doin it urself.
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As you will see from reading the entire thread the OP is not actually planning to IV they were aking for info on ROA. We do not encourage IV use here.
 
If you want an immediate effect from the heroin without snorting, IVing, plugging, or skin-popping: try "chasing the dragon" a term used to refer to vaporizing heroin off foil. This ROA has a more rapid onset than IV, but IV has a higher BA. This ROA definitely takes practice and technique and the type of heroin you have can be an important factor. Just throwing it out there. This was one of my preferred ROA for dope other than insufflation until I felt the IV, it was only downhill from there. It landed me on Suboxone maintenance, which I would highly recommend over methadone/MMT if you can manage.
 
Before you head to IV, try smoking. I personally find I can get a lot higher when I smoke a point of H versus snort it. The come up is a lot quicker and you get more of "rush" not only that but you will get 10-15 hits outta something you would snort in one line. Check this website it has a good users guide to smoking H,
http://www.heroinhelper.com/user/admin/smoke.shtml
If you've never smoked H before you'll lose maybe a point or two trying to get the method down but once you down its worth it (def. better than going to the needle)
 
lman_15 said:
Before you head to IV, try smoking. I personally find I can get a lot higher when I smoke a point of H versus snort it. The come up is a lot quicker and you get more of "rush" not only that but you will get 10-15 hits outta something you would snort in one line. Check this website it has a good users guide to smoking H,
http://www.heroinhelper.com/user/admin/smoke.shtml
If you've never smoked H before you'll lose maybe a point or two trying to get the method down but once you down its worth it (def. better than going to the needle)
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Exactly, way better choice. Provided a good link too
 
^ this this THIS. It is absolutely not a safe ROA as everyone else has said, I just wanted to add my voice too!

Skin popping (subcutanous injection) is even more risky than IM (intramuscular), and that is pretty damn risky (and can result in nastier abscesses, although the increased blood supply makes them slightly less likely - only slightly). There is no way to make it safe - using a micron filter would decrease the risk but not eliminate it. The drug (plus contaminants and bacteria) will sit under your skin, with a poor blood supply - so it won't be absorbed well, and also there is a greater risk of infection due to this.

I would never ever advocate IV use as there are a LOT of risks associated with that too, including a risk of long term and potentially fatal complications such as endocarditis, abscesses from missed shots, blood-bourne diseases, septicaemia, DVTs, lost limbs and overdose, not to mention the high addiction potential and vein damage - but it is actually safer than skin popping. That should give you an idea of how bad an idea this is.

Please read the IV complications megathread (some is relevant to skin popping too) and the case studies thread carefully <3

Chasing or plugging is your best bet if you can't snort anymore. Also consider minimising harm to your nose by snorting water/saline or using a nasal douche in between lines.
 
I made a mistake the first time not listening to you guys (the members as a whole).. yall told me to stay away from this stuff. and now im an addict..so fuck it..ima stay away from needles..maybe not forever..but you guys sure did help postpone it..
 
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