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Stimulants Meth users

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If you hear that again, ask them why they don't just snort 500mg lines of crystal, if it's so damn safe.
It's just gonna be like smoking a huge blunt, right? Can't be a bad drug if you can't OD. Dare him to snort a few half a gram lines in front of you, and tell them if they don't die, you'll give them 50$.
 
the_ketaman said:
Unfortunately I have also heard that you cannot overdose on meth and im in Australia(im guessing your from the U.S?) So its obviously a widespread belief. If I ever hear it from someone again I will be pointing them toward bluelight thats for sure, in fact I will force them to read some facts on the matter.

Just goes to show how much the general public knows about drugs :S
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Wow even in Australia yes i am in the South US and its very common to hear that here. I am glad you are going to refer people to bluelight.


I think my friend did way to much. The person is sweating and paranoid, delusional as hell... I dont understand why this person will not believe that meth can kill. This is so frustrating!!!

Its even worse that this person used to be so great and now its all about the next shot of meth :(
 
KAYLA2010 said:
Wow even in Australia yes i am in the South US and its very common to hear that here. I am glad you are going to refer people to bluelight.


I think my friend did way to much. The person is sweating and paranoid, delusional as hell... I dont understand why this person will not believe that meth can kill. This is so frustrating!!!

Its even worse that this person used to be so great and now its all about the next shot of meth :(
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I think it may be because you rarely do hear of people OD'ing on meth, it is pretty hard in a way to OD on meth(compared to other drugs) but its definitely possible. Ive never heard of anyone OD'ing from it but im sure it happens a lot more than most people think. I think a lot of people think that the drugs you most likely have a chance of OD'ing on are heroin/opiates and "ecstacy"(not necessarily MDMA) so its a green light for them to do whatever and however much of other drugs they want.

I absolutely cant stand how ignorant many people are towards drugs and they just dont listen when you try to give them the facts. Most people I know will not touch LSD because they believe that you can get "stuck in a trip" i.e never come down or stupid things like thinking your a glass of orange juice and you cant move because you'll tip over and spill yourself/die, people even claim to know people who are in this state and straight away I know that they are liars and therefor I dont believe anything they say after this.

We have 2 kinds of meth here in Australia, "Ice" or crystal meth, and "Base"/"Gas"/"Speed" which is not actually freebase meth but kind of I guess what you guys would call crank or "Shake'n'Bake", its damp, very impure meth made in small scale clandestine labs, people usually cut the base with glucose and/or water because water actually weighs quite a bit, some looks entirely like water. Well anyway around here many people believe they are 2 different drugs(though a lot of people are starting to smarten up and realise theyre the same active chemical) and many will not go anywhere near crystal but will take loads of this base which I believe is a lot worse for you because of the leftover chemicals from the synth. Its so silly. Lots of people think coke is very safe too but I think thats because half the coke around here would be like 30% cocaine max, likely a lot less. People think that ecstacy pill sometimes have rat-sack(rat poison) and heroin in them which is where the term "Smacky pill" comes from and unfortunately people who have no idea what theyre doing dont realise that true MDMA can have a very downer like effect at times so dealers will usually buy pills full of speed and other uppers. Valium is considered a very hard drug :s Ketamine is still a dirty horse tranquilizer, GHB a date rape drug(which is true but not only a date rape drug)I hate the situation here I need to find some smart drug users around my area but im afraid there are none. Aaaarrgghh!!!
 
I'm certain that it is more difficult to overdose when vaporizing (smoking) as opposed to snorting, or IV'ing, simply because of the rate of the amount being administered to one's body in a certain time frame. However, it is still certainly possible.

I think it's totally wrong, and almost harmful to actually say out loud that IV'ing meth would be safer than smoking it. Now, obviously, no meth usage is the best meth usage, no matter which ROA one chooses, but I have never seen so many people go from "doing allright" (smoking, snorting) to that one shot that some bonehead offers them - I could use a stopwatch...give it 3 months and they're either in jail, wanted by the police for robbery, completely bat shit paranoia crazy, or something worse. (Yes, I was making sweeping generalizations there, I know that not all meth IV users are any of the afformentioned, but the ones I know, are.) All I know is that I will NEVER EVER IV meth, or anything else for that matter, because I am sure I would fall in love with it, and end up talking to shoes in dark alleyways and talking to invisible gnomes. I'm sure it's fantastic, and if you use harm reduction tactics, hell, maybe it is better than smoking...but I sure as hell wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
 
KAYLA2010 said:
No problem you can have it all!!!! I hate it!!!

Thank you <3
My arm is aching fuck i hope i do not get some infection... I decided to start mrsa/staph antibiotics ... Im riddled with paranoia and anxiety today omfg
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Oh. No. If you truly have MRSA, you absolutely 100% just made it worse by starting antibiotics on your own without having the boil tested to see what kind of MRSA it is. MRSA stands for Methicillin-RESISTANT-staph-aureus, with the key word being RESISTANT - it's a superbug because it mutates itself to beat all of the normal kinds of antibiotics that would usually treat staph infections, such as amoxicillin, penicillin, etc. Starting and stopping multiple antibiotics can cause MRSA, or stopping your antibiotics too early, and by you taking the wrong antibiotic, which you potentially could be, you are actually feeding the MRSA. I swear on all that is holy, I would not wish this on my worst fucking enemy. I have had it for almost 2.5 years now, and have had to go to the ER probably 8-10 times (mind you, I have an incredibly high tolerance for pain, and I do not go to the doctor or the ER unless it is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY) my whole body is full of scars, and the worst part is, those boils are FUCKING PAINFUL. I mean - reallllllllllly fucking painful. I have gone to renowned Infectious Disease doctors who can't figure out how to get rid of this shit. Their latest suggestion is for me to sit in the hospital for SIX WEEKS on a constant IV drip of multiple antibiotics. Are you kidding me? Yeah, let's just pause life for six weeks here real quick...gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

So yeah. Go to the freaking doctor.
 
Meth has a very wide therapeutic index. Acute overdose is quite rare. A potentially lethal dose for a non-tolerant human is estimated to be from 300 to 500 mg (assuming 100 percent purity), which is quite a lot, given a solid recreational dose is 20-40 mg.

ebola
 
littlepenguin said:
I'm certain that it is more difficult to overdose when vaporizing (smoking) as opposed to snorting, or IV'ing, simply because of the rate of the amount being administered to one's body in a certain time frame. However, it is still certainly possible.

I think it's totally wrong, and almost harmful to actually say out loud that IV'ing meth would be safer than smoking it. Now, obviously, no meth usage is the best meth usage, no matter which ROA one chooses, but I have never seen so many people go from "doing allright" (smoking, snorting) to that one shot that some bonehead offers them - I could use a stopwatch...give it 3 months and they're either in jail, wanted by the police for robbery, completely bat shit paranoia crazy, or something worse. (Yes, I was making sweeping generalizations there, I know that not all meth IV users are any of the afformentioned, but the ones I know, are.) All I know is that I will NEVER EVER IV meth, or anything else for that matter, because I am sure I would fall in love with it, and end up talking to shoes in dark alleyways and talking to invisible gnomes. I'm sure it's fantastic, and if you use harm reduction tactics, hell, maybe it is better than smoking...but I sure as hell wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
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It takes a few hits to smoke a bowl of ice, so it's spread out a little.
It takes about three seconds for an I.V. of meth to hit you. All at once.

I'd think I.V. is a little more dangerous for that reason.
You might be right though. I dunno.

And yes, you did make sweeping generalizations, but they are indeed for the most part correct.
It happened to me. It only took one month and i wound up in jail after going on the run. And I was indeed batshit paranoia crazy.
The sad part is I'd do it all over again, just to experience those first few rushes from my first glorious shots.

You'd def fall in love with it. There is nothing in the world like being inside of a girl while you hit each other with crazy stupid shots. Everything seems really lame after that.
 
littlepenguin said:
Oh. No. If you truly have MRSA, you absolutely 100% just made it worse by starting antibiotics on your own without having the boil tested to see what kind of MRSA it is. MRSA stands for Methicillin-RESISTANT-staph-aureus, with the key word being RESISTANT - it's a superbug because it mutates itself to beat all of the normal kinds of antibiotics that would usually treat staph infections, such as amoxicillin, penicillin, etc. Starting and stopping multiple antibiotics can cause MRSA, or stopping your antibiotics too early, and by you taking the wrong antibiotic, which you potentially could be, you are actually feeding the MRSA. I swear on all that is holy, I would not wish this on my worst fucking enemy. I have had it for almost 2.5 years now, and have had to go to the ER probably 8-10 times (mind you, I have an incredibly high tolerance for pain, and I do not go to the doctor or the ER unless it is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY) my whole body is full of scars, and the worst part is, those boils are FUCKING PAINFUL. I mean - reallllllllllly fucking painful. I have gone to renowned Infectious Disease doctors who can't figure out how to get rid of this shit. Their latest suggestion is for me to sit in the hospital for SIX WEEKS on a constant IV drip of multiple antibiotics. Are you kidding me? Yeah, let's just pause life for six weeks here real quick...gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

So yeah. Go to the freaking doctor.
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i do not have a boil or even a small bump nothing...im not even taking the meds i was just refering to being paranoid cause i hit a nerve and it was aching chill out
 
I guess you could say that you can overdose deadly indirect by amphetamines
versus opioids which will cut your breathing down to death weres meth causes your bloodpreassure rise
and stuff like that and that could very possibly end with death.

To say amphetamines is a "safe" drug is just BS. Maybe some kids who smoke weed and meth doesn't really see the
"bad" side of the addiction like so many of us have and very much regret.
 
Exactly like I said earlier, if you dont die from methamphetamine toxicity, you'll die from the cardiac side effects. just like how in opiates its not always fatal because of the opiate itself, but the respiratory side effects.
 
Alright, this topic has run it's course, if kayla has any more methamphetamine questions, (WHICH SHE SHOULDNT because she knows she shouldn't be doing meth) then I will reopen this.
 
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