RCs The Methiopropamine N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine (MPA) Megathread

[Albion]

It's not just peeing problems but thick semen problems.

MPA apparently causes semen to thicken, which seems to be the problem. To have thickened semen clogging up your testes and the protruding tubes is an excruciatingly painful state of affairs to be in (trust me).

 

[Silverfox]

It's not just peeing problems but thick semen problems.

MPA apparently causes semen to thicken, which seems to be the problem. To have thickened semen clogging up your testes and the protruding tubes is an excruciatingly painful state of affairs to be in (trust me).

 

[FlippingTop]

MPA apparently causes semen to thicken, which seems to be the problem. To have thickened semen clogging up your testes and the protruding tubes is an excruciatingly painful state of affairs to be in (trust me).

Fucking lol!

I may try that out later.

 

[Cyanoide]

It's not just peeing problems but thick semen problems.

MPA apparently causes semen to thicken, which seems to be the problem. To have thickened semen clogging up your testes and the protruding tubes is an excruciatingly painful state of affairs to be in (trust me).

Through what mechanism would MPA do this? As it's an analogue of methamphetamine, would the same apply to meth and speed (d-amp) too? If not, why?

If it causes semen to thicken, would ejaculation help as you would get rid of the clogged semen? And when off MPA your semen would be normal?

After trying out many stimulants for functionality MPA has been superior but that side effect sounds nasty if true. MPA has been the stimulant with least side effects for me in small to moderate doses.

 

[Ne0]

Have tried this orally and rectally, ite reminds little bit amphetamine. Rectally seems best ROA to take. Less side-effects, when taken orally I get stomach pain, headache and nausea, but when plugged nothing of these. Also gives pretty nice dopamine rush from plugging. Usually plugged 60mg or the start then boosting with 30mg every hour or so. It seems pretty compulsive when plugged, orally not that much. It gives ok concentration and focus on first hour, but I find after that concentration state goes low, maybe taking too much.

IME amphetamine is better for concentration and recreational use. Still this is better than many other new rc-stimulants at the moment. Only negative side is that it keeps you very long awake, but it dosent seem to give comedown, as it lasts about 5h after rush and slowly fades away and leaves you pretty much on baseline state.

 

[cheetahrunwild]

Be careful with this RC. It can lead to addiction in even those who believe themselves to be addiction free. Please take my advice, if you order it more than once or twice re-think it. I liked it. Too much. Do I still want it? Yes. Don't touch it people...............I have been surrounded by people with drug addictions of all sorts my entire life and never fell for anything even though I tested many things....but this might as well be meth. Period.

Edited to add, haven't touched it in four days. Yes that's a long time. Finally feeling the cravings. It sucks. Yes I want to order more, Yes I still have some.

But I am not touching SHIT for quite a while. No different than big pharma. No different than anything on the streets here. All the same.

Off to be healthy ya'll. Enjoy your shit but be careful please. It will catch up with you quicker than you will be able to admit. If anyone needs to talk message me, I am trying to eat organically, fill myself with vitamins and herbs and not need anything speedy.

 

[Zazen]

From a recreational aspect I've found this to pretty worthless orally and insufflation doesn't seem that great either.

When plugged though it's a different beast all together. Found 35mg to be a sweet spot between feeling good and feeling tweaked out/paranoid. Redosing 35mg every 60-90 minutes seems to work well the first couple of times, although after that it tends to end up with the usual stimulant chasing-the-high-and-getting-nowhere. Effects last quite a long time though so keeping 1mg of etizolam on hand to knock you out later on works well.

 

[skyHiGuy]

Be careful with this RC. It can lead to addiction in even those who believe themselves to be addiction free. Please take my advice, if you order it more than once or twice re-think it. I liked it. Too much. Do I still want it? Yes. Don't touch it people...............I have been surrounded by people with drug addictions of all sorts my entire life and never fell for anything even though I tested many things....but this might as well be meth. Period.

Edited to add, haven't touched it in four days. Yes that's a long time. Finally feeling the cravings. It sucks. Yes I want to order more, Yes I still have some.

But I am not touching SHIT for quite a while. No different than big pharma. No different than anything on the streets here. All the same.

Off to be healthy ya'll. Enjoy your shit but be careful please. It will catch up with you quicker than you will be able to admit. If anyone needs to talk message me, I am trying to eat organically, fill myself with vitamins and herbs and not need anything speedy.

good luck mate. know what ya mean. I too am overkeen on this or failing getting this on ehp which is probably slightly less addictive. Been stimming for too long, for years with rc stims like meow and mpv. Mdma and street speed. now mpa and eph available and do the job. Can't be good... Good luck

 

[serotonin-system]

Hi Guys,

I have some pretty heavy exams coming up and am looking for a legal stimulant to help me focus. I do not have access to adderall/ritalin etc since I am from the UK and these are rarely prescribed here.

I have read quite a bit about Ethylphenidate and also Methiopropamine and was wondering which one of these you would consider the most useful as a study aid? I will be limiting myself to oral dosing only, with a view to solely 'therapeutic' use. ie Euphoria could actually be seen as a disadvantage in this instance.

Many thanks for your thoughts and advice,

SS

 

[Cyanoide]

Hi Guys,

I have some pretty heavy exams coming up and am looking for a legal stimulant to help me focus. I do not have access to adderall/ritalin etc since I am from the UK and these are rarely prescribed here.

I have read quite a bit about Ethylphenidate and also Methiopropamine and was wondering which one of these you would consider the most useful as a study aid? I will be limiting myself to oral dosing only, with a view to solely 'therapeutic' use. ie Euphoria could actually be seen as a disadvantage in this instance.

Many thanks for your thoughts and advice,

SS

MPA is far superior as a functional stimulant. It's not especially euphoric but increases focus and motivation considerably in moderate doses. Ethylphenidate is moderately functional in small doses but generally it's a very messy, euphoric and moreish compound. Also MPA has a longer duration, EPH requires redosing every 2-3 hours.

Oral doses are a good choice, snorting it produces some slight euphoria and it becomes a quite speedy compound reminiscent of regular amphetamine.

 

[Policethepolice?]

I would suggest that the duration of eph makes it unsuitable straight off of the bat.


http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=92674 Quite an informative one here.

 

[serotonin-system]

^ Thanks very much for the feedback.

I also take 10 mg escitalopram per day. Does anyone envisage any problems combining these two? I have seen comment in another thread of the concomitant use of an SSRI and eph, with no real problems. However, it seems clear that the pharmacology of eph is primarily restricted to the DA and NA systems. Is there an overlap of pharmacology between MPA and SSRI's that we know of? I am trying to avoid any complications along the lines of serotonin-syndrome etc.

Also, I dont have precise measuring equipment. Any pointers on measuring an amount out approximating 35mg? I will likely purchase a 500mg sample.

Finally, this compound is not controlled in the UK right?

With thanks,

SS

 

[Cyanoide]

^ Thanks very much for the feedback.

I also take 10 mg escitalopram per day. Does anyone envisage any problems combining these two? I have seen comment in another thread of the concomitant use of an SSRI and eph, with no real problems. However, it seems clear that the pharmacology of eph is primarily restricted to the DA and NA systems. Is there an overlap of pharmacology between MPA and SSRI's that we know of? I am trying to avoid any complications along the lines of serotonin-syndrome etc.

Also, I dont have precise measuring equipment. Any pointers on measuring an amount out approximating 35mg? I will likely purchase a 500mg sample.

Finally, this compound is not controlled in the UK right?

With thanks,

SS

I've been on escitalopram while taking MPA. There are no contraindictions between these two. MPA works just fine with SSRI's, it has very little serotonergic effects. Rest assured you won't get serononin syndrome with an SSRI and MPA. If MPA would be serotonergic the SSRI would dampen it's effects, just like it does with MDMA. MPA is neurotoxic though as all amphetamines are, remember to take vitamins and antioxidants.

I don't know if questions about legality are liked my the moderators but if it's sold by UK vendors online, well...you can probably figure it out.

You should never eyeball RC's. Especially if you're not familiar with the compound. And batches can vary in potency. Buy a cheap milligram scale. For MPA it doesn't have to be an extremely accurate scale, give or take a few mg's, with MPA it makes no difference really.

 

[Transform]

MPA is neurotoxic though as all amphetamines are, remember to take vitamins and antioxidants.

MPA is not an amphetamine and is unlikely to pose much neurotoxic risk when used at 35mg. It is good practice to take antioxidants though.

You should never eyeball RC's. Especially if you're not familiar with the compound. And batches can vary in potency. Buy a cheap milligram scale. For MPA it doesn't have to be an extremely accurate scale, give or take a few mg's, with MPA it makes no difference really.

Totally agree with this, scales are very cheap. It's just not worth the uncertainty when eyeballing.

MPA is legal in the UK.

 

[THCified]

As for MPA...

during my last use, at least 2 1/2 to 3 months ago, at the end of the day i had some real probs starting as i was smoking some weed in the evening to get myself a bit down off the lingering pushy aftereffects of the compound. I did this some times before with absolutely no probs. But this evening, i started to get a feeling of coldness all over my body, which increased with time and became an overall, nasty chilly-feeling which was worst in my hands and feet and which felt like blood pressure has been fallen off really hard. I was lookin' at my hands, where the veins at the back of my hands were barely visible.

It almost felt like a syncope/fainting and i had to lay down to calm myself, where the effects soon after diminished.

Since then i had this feeling some times again, perhaps 2-3 times i guess, even though i never touched MPA sinced the 1st incident. Any ideas?

 

[Phoenix_rising]

I thought i would give this another try and got myself a gram the other day.I proceeded to eyeball 100mg and plugged it...I know eyeballing any substance is not recommended but i lack the scales,i used a 100mg scoop spoon which is pretty accurate as far as spoons go.

All i can say is that at first i felt no rush,no euphoria,if anything it was quite dysphoric with a slight trippy surreal feeling,i decided to try and break through by plugging a further 200mg,all that happened was that the negative feelings got worse,my heart raced and i felt anxious,i was very sweaty and felt feverish,i felt hot inside but had goose bumps all over my skin.

There was nothing nice about MPA at all,it was as if all the positive effects of a good stimulant were removed and all that i was left with was the negatives.For me MPA is shite,absolute shite. If you want to feel ill then go for it,but if you want a nice clean stimulant buzz then avoid it like the plague.

 

[knock]

I thought i would give this another try and got myself a gram the other day.I proceeded to eyeball 100mg and plugged it...I know eyeballing any substance is not recommended but i lack the scales,i used a 100mg scoop spoon which is pretty accurate as far as spoons go.

All i can say is that at first i felt no rush,no euphoria,if anything it was quite dysphoric with a slight trippy surreal feeling,i decided to try and break through by plugging a further 200mg,all that happened was that the negative feelings got worse,my heart raced and i felt anxious,i was very sweaty and felt feverish,i felt hot inside but had goose bumps all over my skin.

There was nothing nice about MPA at all,it was as if all the positive effects of a good stimulant were removed and all that i was left with was the negatives.For me MPA is shite,absolute shite. If you want to feel ill then go for it,but if you want a nice clean stimulant buzz then avoid it like the plague.

100mg sounds like a large dose to me. 300mg sounds irresponsible. I get nice effects from 30-50mg plugged or swallowed.

 

[Phoenix_rising]

Im a hard head,been on the scene for years and have consumed most things,i would say i`m a veteran and am qualified.300mg may sound irresponsible to you but to another it`s not even a tickle...What i`m trying to say is that if i didn`t feel anything from such large doses then what is 30-50mg going to do for me? Nothing,i would have upped the dose to try and find the sparkle,of which there isn`t one.

People like myself save others who may not be as hardened or experienced the effort and possible mistake of trying to get high from this chemical,be warned people,this is nothing like Methamphetamine but more like a shite version of psedoephedrine.

I serve as a harm reduction vessel.

 

[knock]

Im a hard head,been on the scene for years and have consumed most things,i would say i`m a veteran and am qualified.300mg may sound irresponsible to you but to another it`s not even a tickle...What i`m trying to say is that if i didn`t feel anything from such large doses then what is 30-50mg going to do for me? Nothing,i would have upped the dose to try and find the sparkle,of which there isn`t one.

People like myself save others who may not be as hardened or experienced the effort and possible mistake of trying to get high from this chemical,be warned people,this is nothing like Methamphetamine but more like a shite version of psedoephedrine.

I serve as a harm reduction vessel.

Yeah I wasn't having a go at you, I don't know your history. I just meant that a negative experience does not surprise me given such a large quantity taken. You say you didn't feel anything, but in your OP you said you experienced dysphoria which got much worse with increased dose! Which is it?

 

[Phoenix_rising]

Oh ok,i didn`t mean to get on one and come accross all defensive...It is irresponsible to do 300mg of MPA and i wouldn`t advise anyone to do it,your quite right in that respect.

When i said that i didn`t feel anything i meant i felt no positive stimulant effects,as i increased the doseage the negative effcts got worse.I did try a small run of roughly 20-30mg to test for a recation which was only just noticable,thats why i went for the 100mg which is what i had read from other reports to be an effctive dose.

Maybe MPA just doesn`t go with my chemistry,someone else may get the desired effects,but in my experience these people would be inexperienced in the use of other drugs of the stimulant family like Amphetamine sulphate,methamphetamine,cocaine etc etc.