Cocaine Is this safe and normal?

[pbuilder]

About 6 months ago now, back in november i did cocaine for my first time. I was hammered and hanging out with some of my old brothers friends at around 4am in the morning after coming home from the bar and shabang one of them is a huge coke head and they all do it to, so the huge cokehead guy breaks out some fat lines for everyone cause hes generous like that. My brother, told me many a times never start this shit it just isn't worth it but i see them all doing lines before, after, during the night and I wanna know what the whole hype is about. So one of them does half his line and is like f*ck im already to fucked i dont wanna do anymore tonight so he asks around if anyone wants the other half.

The big coke head guy doesnt want me doing coke cuz hes good friends with my bro so he would never give me blow, but i was right beside the half the line and i was like fuk sure ill do it, and bang that was my first line. And I say line because half that line was bigger than a normal line anyways lol. I didn;t really feel the high at first, but i get another friend of mine to ask for another line and sneakily just give it to me, and cuz ive known him for a while hes like "alright jr. ill hook u up" so he gets the cokehead guy to chop out another set of lines, saving his for last and hands me the cd case. Bang I do another line, never done coke before but this was my second line, and they were fat, easily around 200mg each. So I do that, no burn or nothing, kinda like the smell of it, like nail polish or something then we have some tunes playing and im just chilling on the computer with a buddy and looking at hot babes we have on facebook. I feel really good but i didn't realize it right in the moment, i didn't really know I was high cuz its not a trippy high like weed....

And then it hit me... I woke up the next day and am doing some random sh*t and im like wow.... Ive never felt that good after a night of drinking at 5am in the morning... Wait... wus it the 2 lines that caused that?

I was addicted to cocaine before I ever snorted my first line, I'd see my bro and his friends doing lines thinking it was to cool but to scared to try it.. and of course they were all telling me naw never ever touch this shit.... i wish i never did it...

yet id be tiny lines out of tylenol in my room ever now and then... just to feel cool i dont know but it felt so cool to do that... sad huh?

I remember the first time i got an actual little baggie of cocaine, just a quarter gram... I literally got like 20 lines out of it, i was doing these tiny lines and they had me SPUUUNNN for the whole night at the club. I was so chatty, so confident, so in tuned with the music, it was like my first time getting drunk all over again, but 100x more euphoric.

And yet here I am now? I've still only done cocaine (like whole night sessions) about 18 times now...

Yet that .25g that used to get me high is nothing now. Just 18 sessions and if I don't have at least a gram and a half now for the night I'm gonna be bad buzzing real soon into the night. Yet im doing 6x that quarter gram i first ever started with, yet the euphoria isn't as good anymore.

I still chat like a nutcase, but man around my 6th session I had my first ever panic attack/REAL COMEDOWN after using all night till 10am, and ever since then I have more paniccyness to my high. I can only do a few lines and have a few beers and be having a blast, but if everyones like alright im tired lets head home... the thought of going home, the party being over causes me this anxiety like no other. Remember back in school when u had to do presentations but you were really scared to talk infront of the class and u know u put shit all effort into ur crappy ass presentation and u had those terrible butterflies in ur stomache and u were just nervous in general, almost feeling sick, almost like an impending doom, hands shaking and all...? Well thats what its like when i have a bad coke comedown now... exept atleast x10 that. It's so bad mang, yet I still come back every weekend to the devils dandruff.

Is this kinda tolerance usual for coke? I guess it is, i've always heard it starts off real cheap, the price of like an extra large pizza to get high for the night... yet so quickly it turned into the price of 15 extra large pizzas. My god... I still only ever use on the weekends, but all week im really just waiting to pick up friday and have a wild night out...

Anyways, back to my question (sorry im rambling... high right now on oxy and cocaine, speed ball plugged this feels fuking amazing), is a 1/4 gram to 1.5 or more grams needed in a night, usual for a weekend user who has only used about 18 times now(yes im counting lol)?

Mang this stuff is terribly addictive

 

[pbuilder]

also fuking lol'ing so hard about how much i ramble while typing high.

I know tommorow when i wake up ill be like wtf mang...

but right now... it just feels to right to type this... like its my mission in life...

pls dont close mods

 

[Flabu]

Hi there.

I am relatively inexperience with cocaine. (Opiates - Benzos - Booze my expertise). I am very experienced with addiction and how it works though. To me it seems like you are climbing the ladder very quickly towards an addiction.

I know this isnt what you want to hear!

A big red flag is when you cant stop thinking about / looking forward to the next time you get to use. It begins to take over your thoughts and before you know it you are acting upon these thoughts more often than you would ever imagine yourself doing so.

Just be careful, perhaps stick to the extra large pizzas more often. I am not saying to never enjoy yourself ever again, but try to keep it under some control.

 

[Swain]

You must be high on coke to write that much LOL. But yeah that's normal.. coke is addictive. I know people who go through 1-2g's in a night..

I shoto my coke.. but its not my DOC. dope is.. and I like to do speedballs. I never really use more than 1g in 24 hours.. and its average quality shit.

I would watch out..b/c like you said, you were addicted before you even tried it. You have nowhere to go but downhill from here..and it sounds like your use, while it's only on weekends, is progressing to a pretty serious level. If its lke that now, where do you see your self in a year? I am not lecturing you.. just playing devils advocate. I myself have gotten into coke lately and I dont like it.. I feel my self getting addicted.

I just feel like a shot of dope is boring now without atleast 50mg coke in it. And thast bad lol

 

[pbuilder]

The only good thing is, i might have a 1.5g but i give at least half of it away if not more cause i always set up lines for friends. I just ask em for like 10 bucks or whatever and then hook em up with a bunch of lines throughout the night. I think the most I'VE ever done personally in one night, just me, is a bit under a gram.

 

[Znegative]

its not an unusual ammount to take, but you want to be carefull with cocaine nowadays. check out this thread, pertaining to the use of Levamisole as a very common cut for cocaine.

 

[Swain]

Yeah that whole Levamisole thing is a bummer.. I try to block it out and pretend its not an issue lol. I tell my self hey this mixes up perfectly clear so it must be straight.

I am a professional when it comes to lying and manipulating my self. I can convince my self that even the craziest idea is rational. "Yeah shooting this coke is unhealthy but this is def the last tiem i am ever going to do it." or the classic "...I am going to chip here and there..you know like once or twice a month."

Now that I am getting older I am getting a bit worried about my health... I want to live a long healthy happy life. I really don't think chronic dope and coke use not to mention smoking weed goes hand in hand with a happy healthy life. When I look at my extended family, the people who drink and or smoke cigs look 10 or 20 years older than the people who do not drink or smoke. That stuff takes a toll on you mentally and physically. I can only imagine what a decade or two of speedballs does to a person.

Why is coke and dope so god damn good!!! LOL.

A word of advice for anyone considering trying IV coke for the 1st time, do not do it. If you are already a coke user, plan on never sniffing it again. Don't kid your self thinking it is an issue of willpower, or that you won't get addicted because you simply would not let that happen. What makes you think your special and will have different results than the rest of us? Once you feel the rush and understand what it is, you will never sniff your coke again...there is only one way coke will be entering your body from now on. I challange anyone to find me someone who has IV'd coke and gone back to sniffing it. Personally, with both coke and dope I had no intention of permanently switching to IV. I just wanted to experience it.. or that is what I told/convinced my self. As soon as I felt that rush from IVing, the drug was banned from my nose.

If you are not a cocaine user at all, absolutely do not try IV coke. Don't believe "you can try anything once without getting addicted"..it's pure bullshit.. I mean sure, you can't develop dependency and addiction from a single use, but once you try a drug and experience it's affects, you've opened pandora's box. You have created evil that simply can not be undone. What happens next your guess is as good as mine.

Does anyone know bioavailibilty of coke? I am curious how much more you are able to procces compared to 100% when you IV. It's weird.. take heroin for instance. Sniffing it is not really any different from shooting it as far as the feeling of the high goes. Of course when you shoot you get a rush that you can not experience via sniffing or even smoking, but aside from the rush the high is essentially the same. Coke on the other hand.. it's almost like once it hits that water it turns into a different drug. The rush is mindblowing.. you wouldn't even think the drug you were sniffing had a capability of making you feel like that. And surprisingly the duration of the high is decently long.. Mixed with 1 or 2 bags of dope, there is no comedown, no anxiety or paranoia. If I took that same coke and sniffed it on a day when I was only on buprenorphine, I would not enjoy it. Even if it was given to me free I wouldn't do it. I hate being stuck awake and I despise the comedown you get which feels like it comes on almost instantly.

 

[tricomb]

Man I'm so glad I stopped shooting coke before this levamisole shit became so mainstream.

Pbuilder, you're a cool guy, you should try and get off while you still can. If you've only done cocaine 18 times, you're probably just beginning to feel the financial stress. Please don't ever shoot the stuff, these days cocaine just isn't pure enough to be worth it IMO.

 

[Swain]

Yeah I agree man. SERiously if you think its tough to quit now, it is only going to get worse. And a year from now you will wish your habit was only as bad as it is now. Who knows where you will be in a year if you continue.. maybe smoking crack under a bridge giving out $5 handjobs at a delayed green light on the highway to support your habit lol.

All jokes aside though.. you do seem like a cool guy man. I am in a similar situation.. only been using coke for a month or 2 and only for around 2 -3 long nights a week. And already I am feeling a pretty serious psycological addiction/habit forming. I am getting out now personally. Going by my families tomorrow and if all goes well i am never pickin up coke again.

I like speedballs, its fun, blah blah blah, but fuck all that shit. Its all fake happiness. Not to mention I am getting older now and am becomign concious of how I treat my b ody..and injecting street drugs simply is not what I want to be doing. I wanna be with my lil neisses, I want them to know the new swain..the swain who loves them, and doesnt use drugs, not the old swain who is a bit selfish.. often choosing drugs over others.

I dunno man I might just be dreaming.. but I feel like I am at a point in my life where I really wanna quit. I hope its not smoke and mirrors.

 

[pbuilder]

Sorry lol looking back this whole thread is pointless. I love to go on complete rambles when I'm drunk and high, and then the next day I'm just like, wtf why on earth did I make this thread lol. Yea I'm gonna really try and quit this sh*t, not worth it!

 

[poppyplanet]

Cocaine, in my opinion, is one of the dirtiest feeling drugs I've ever done. First of all, the high lasts about a half hour, if you're lucky, then you have to keep rebumping, and it's never as good as the first line. That's if you're snorting it, smoking it, forget about it. This shit will burn a hole in your pocket as fast as you can say it's snowing outside. Fuck Coke, I'll stick to my opiates.

 

[tricomb]

Drugs are synthetic happiness.

 

[pbuilder]

absolutely agree^ but in the moment, it is the best feeling ever.

ever find yourself during the high being like, dang man I can feel like this all the time if i want i just gotta be super confident and enjoy everything.

Then when u comedown ur literally in the complete opposite state of the high.

I read in a thread, some guy put into words what i never could. Cocaine is a great high, as long as you keep doing lines all night but once you come down at the end of the night, and I quote "you feel like their is no feeling worse, then just existing at that very moment". And it's so true lol, it's like complete dysphoria, but even the oxy can't compete with the euphoria i get from booze + coke combo. It's fuking incredible.

 

[tricomb]

It's so bad for you though, cocaethylene.

 

[Titus]

Your asking the wrong question(s). Ask what it will be like for you 2 years from now. 'Normal' coke users use it on their birthday and new years or special occasions and don't think about it the next day. Once you start anticipating your next bout with coke your psychologically hooked. Then the only questions are: How weathy are you? To what lenghts will you go to in order to acquire coke, or money to get coke? Then... how long can you manage to continue to appear functional? Then...how do you explain the changes everyone is noticing in you? How long can you bear the cocaine induced paranoia that will set in and be a regular part of your life? How will you escape before doing 20 to life or winding up on a cold slab?

That scene from Blow where Jonny Depp is snorting coke out of a travel bag while his wife's water broke and he is holding up the trip to the hospital so his wife can give birth to his own child is NOT an exaggeration (well not MUCH of one) for someone with access to lots and lots of coke. Hell, for some I'd immagine it's LESS dramatic than some similar scenarios would play out for such people.

 

[Titus]

Drugs are synthetic happiness.

This is so true (or substitute happiness for one of it's many syonyms). I don't think that many people who are mentally, emotionally, psychologically, physically, etc happy and content wind up abusing drugs. I think their opposites use them the most (or as much as they can). And those that are in the middle somewhere, once exposed, have it imbedded in their psyche it's a quick fix to address situational distress/unhappiness/whatever. The fewer alternatives to effectively 'get happy' such a person has the more likely they will use a drug to get there. Or even if someone has many routes to happiness, drugs can get you there so quickly and so effectively... well...no wonder they are popular and have been used forever and will continue to be so long as 'the human condition' continues to exist.

Now throw drug prohibition on that and no wonder why the world is filled with problems.

Drugs temporarilly 'cure' unhapppiness.
Water temporarilly 'cures' thirst.

What would the world be like if water was 'prohibited' with similar punnishments for possession, sale, transportation, etc? Only difference is the % of the population involved.

 

[poppyplanet]

Drugs are synthetic happiness but you know what? I wouldn't have it any other way. I am a generally happy person sober but when I add my drug of choice to the mix, it makes me that much happier. So do I need to do it? Absolutely not. I want to do it. Big difference.

 

[Titus]

Drugs are synthetic happiness but you know what? I wouldn't have it any other way. I am a generally happy person sober but when I add my drug of choice to the mix, it makes me that much happier. So do I need to do it? Absolutely not. I want to do it. Big difference.

I don't know if the person whose post I quoted intended for it to have any judgement attached to it, but mine certainly didn't. I'm for ending all drug prohibition and think any adult should be able to use as much of any or every drug they want, for whatever reason they want.

But I'm curious. Since you classify yourself as 'generally happy sober' would you agree or disagree with my hypothisis that generally unhappy people (where I would put myself, in general, over the past 30-40 yrs) would tend to do drugs more often than generally happy people (where I'm seeing you put yourself-which I may be misunderstanding-which I suppose rests on whether or not you are sober more often than not). Do you think I'm correct in my guess/view on this? If not, why not? Again, no judgement, just curious and interested in your perspective.

Do you think that generally happy people use and/or abuse drugs more, the same, or less than generally unhappy people? And why?

 

[tricomb]

Mine wasn't judgemental. Drugs are synthetic happiness. I take them for the fake happiness many times a day, I am not one to judge. I count on it.

 

[Titus]

Mine wasn't judgemental. Drugs are synthetic happiness. I take them for the fake happiness many times a day, I am not one to judge. I count on it.

Didn't think so bro but wasn't sure if poppyplanet thought yours and/or mine was and didn't want him to be thinking he was being judged. Guess I should have worded my post differently as I now see that it left in question that yours could have been, sorry bout that. Was just meaning to let poppy know I wasn't judging him but should have been more thoughtful in the way I worded my post as it referenced yours. sorry.