There are synephrine/bitter orange peel herbal supplements out there being sold for weight loss. I am not interested in losing weight at all, but am curious whether such supplements can be a substitute for adderall/ritalin people take off-label to study or write papers overnight. Does it have a CNS stimulation effect that mimics those ADD drugs?
Bitter orange/synephrine as a study/focus/staying-up drug?
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ErgicMergic
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Ephedrine is the best substitute IMO. It is mostly physical, but gives more CNS stimulation than pseudoephedrine. You can buy it at your pharmacy, just go to the pharmacy counter and ask for "Bronkaid" or "Primatene Tablets."
Take half of a Bronkaid or a full Primatene, so 12.5mg Ephedrine, every 4-6 hours.
Don't mess with supplements that effect the endocrine system, something like "synephrine" just sounds sketchy, sounds like it's synthetic epinephrine or something...
Take half of a Bronkaid or a full Primatene, so 12.5mg Ephedrine, every 4-6 hours.
Don't mess with supplements that effect the endocrine system, something like "synephrine" just sounds sketchy, sounds like it's synthetic epinephrine or something...
I don't believe synephrine is the synthetic epinephrine. It is indeed a component of the bitter orange plant, but I am just wondering about its effects
NeighborhoodThreat
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It is indeed an actual drug (at least according to Wikipedia) - however, I doubt you'll get anything close to the effects of more traditional stimulants such as amphetamine or ephedrine. In fact, you may not get any effects at all.
ErgicMergic
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Tbh, I would just try Ephedrine and not even waste my money with Bitter Orange. Ephedrine is a structural methamphetamine analog, and is actually pretty good for focusing. It's somewhere between Pseudoephedrine and Adderall in terms of effects, leaning more towards pseudo.
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Given the OP's disregard for your initial suggestion, I would reckon he's only interested in the substance mentioned in the title. This isn't a "give me suggestions" but instead "what is THIS drug." Ephedrine and Bitter Orange Peels are significantly different in "classification," with one being an herbal supplement...
Also - please refrain from giving instructions on sourcing a drug, even if it's just a local pharmacy.
ErgicMergic
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Let us know how it works out, OP. Synephrine sounds interesting, at least.
I don't think he gave info on sourcing, but it is true that i am just curious about people's experience with synephrine. ephedrine, on the other hand, is an interesting and useful substance by its own merit
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Synephrine is to L-Amphetamine what Ephedrine is to D-Amphetamine.....Not literally as in structure, as pseudo would more appropriately get that spot, but with the Synephrine products you get an Alpha agonist with weak partial Beta agonist activity. It will raise blood pressure without directly increasing heart rate. It does have some CNS stimulant activity, but I found it to cause more anxiety and blood pressure abnormalities than Ephedra with a lot less euphoria.
I used to use all that stuff years ago, when I was healthy enough to use these "natural" products to help me do well in school.
Regular Ma Huang is legal again. You can buy it in bulk. Its better than Synephrine, though you can still overdose and die.
It seems like a bum deal to get more high blood pressure than CNS stimulation. It did keep me awake, but not because I was having a good time. SMALL amounts might help with weight control, but its not as good as buying some ephedra stems.
Better yet, grow Ephedra yourself if you have the climate for it.
I used to use all that stuff years ago, when I was healthy enough to use these "natural" products to help me do well in school.
Regular Ma Huang is legal again. You can buy it in bulk. Its better than Synephrine, though you can still overdose and die.
It seems like a bum deal to get more high blood pressure than CNS stimulation. It did keep me awake, but not because I was having a good time. SMALL amounts might help with weight control, but its not as good as buying some ephedra stems.
Better yet, grow Ephedra yourself if you have the climate for it.
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Rogue_Alchemist, how would you compare L-amp and ephedrine in terms of side effects and potency on a mg per mg basis?
I was prescribed Dexedrine, but found for my ADHD-inattentive, Dexedrine by itself isn't very useful. I've always mixed it with in a 1:1 or 3:2 ratio, Dexedrine:Ephedrine, and I find that 7.5-10mg Dexedrine with 6.5mg ephedrine is a perfect mix. I ran out of ephedrine today and took Dex alone. All I did was dance to music, socialize with family, and browse the internet intensely. It just gave me focus on what I wanted to do, not needed to do.
I kind of want to procure some Adderall, never tried it, but I feel like having a fixed ratio of amps is kind of limiting, as you can't adjust CNS/PNS stimulation to your liking.
I was prescribed Dexedrine, but found for my ADHD-inattentive, Dexedrine by itself isn't very useful. I've always mixed it with in a 1:1 or 3:2 ratio, Dexedrine:Ephedrine, and I find that 7.5-10mg Dexedrine with 6.5mg ephedrine is a perfect mix. I ran out of ephedrine today and took Dex alone. All I did was dance to music, socialize with family, and browse the internet intensely. It just gave me focus on what I wanted to do, not needed to do.
I kind of want to procure some Adderall, never tried it, but I feel like having a fixed ratio of amps is kind of limiting, as you can't adjust CNS/PNS stimulation to your liking.