upping methadone dose for a short period to get off smack?

[jeremykyle]

ok im sure some of you already know my situation but il outline it anyway, im on a 95ml a day MMT with a 3-4 bag heroin IV habit on top.

im sick of the shit, sick of having no money even though i work full time, sick of my hands looking all fucked up from hitting, im going to end up losing my family and my partner through this shit unless i do something, i have a plan though.

recently there was a bank holiday which meant that i got a carry out on my meth, i didnt drink it on the day i was supposed to so i could try this out i plan to keep off the smack and dose out the extra meth at 19ml per day on top of my 95ml from the chemist for five days.

hopefully that means i wont rattle even though im off the smack and five days shouldnt be long enough for my body to get used to the extra methadone so when i stop dosing the extra i should be a little sick but not too bad and fingers crossed clear of the smack habit.

does this sound viable to you guys n gals?

 

[Pjkt2501]

Well it isn't the worst idea I've ever heard!

I would personally bump up the extra dose, but it doesn't sound like you can do that. Is it possible to discuss this issue with someone to get your dose increased? You're not at the top range of dosing, so I don't see a huge issue.

Good luck!

 

[GABAking]

HAve you considered going on the suboxone/subtex (BUPRENORPHINE) instead of methadone? You won't be able to even take opiates and get stoned, especially if you're under supervised visits where they watch you take the pill sublingually. I also hear (haven't experienced though) that methadone w/d are worse than bupe w/d because the half life of methadone is so so long

If you're put on a proper dose of buprenorphine, you won't experience any withdrawals. You'll still mentally be craving opiates, as with all treatment programs, because the high isn't there. but this is something that all users must find a way to cope with. you an do it man. you really seem like you want to get off smack and willpower is the most important thing in stopping a habit

 

[jeremykyle]

well i could do an extra 23.5ml for four days rather than 19ml for five? i could even go higher but only for three days but i think il still feel dopesick if i stop after three days. i dont want to go higher on my actual MMT, my doctor doesnt want me to either so thats pretty much not an option.

 

[jeremykyle]

its pretty hard to get subbies from the chemist they tend to just stick people on meth. if i can just get clear of the smack though i can get my key worker to reduce my meth down pretty sharpish

 

[jeremykyle]

does anyone else think this will work? just i want to start tomorrow and i need to go to bed, gotta be up in like five hours for work

 

[effie]

Going to move this to OD, they're the methadone experts.

BDD > OD

 

[Znegative]

does anyone else think this will work? just i want to start tomorrow and i need to go to bed, gotta be up in like five hours for work

It should work. Theoretically it's just like using that ammount of methadone to detox yourself off of a strictly heroin habit.

I'm a bit confused though, you measure the methadone in mL.. In NY they tend to put 5-10 mg/ml.. anyway I'm assuming your refering to mg, in which case 20-25mg of methadone should be enough to make up for the heroin you plan on abstaining from. when you drop back to your original dosage, i would imagine you'll feel slight discomfort, but it should be bareable.

 

[Miss Kirsty]

ARe you planning on taking the same amount over the period or decreasing dude?...I think you should do a taper that decreases you dose daily

Im unsure if you are on 95ml or mg?

But i think it would be better and it would last about two extra days for the taper if you decrease every day rather than sit on the same dose...

 

[jeremykyle]

its a 1ml/1mg solution, i had 19ml this morning then went for my 95ml after work, i succumbed to buying a bag even thoujgh i dont feel sick so i just have to be stronger with myself in the next few days. i can get another 25ml bottle from my partner if a taper would be neccessary?

 

[Jabberwocky]

You'll likely be absolutely fine OP. Even if you just stuff with your regular dose, you'll only feel mild issues from stopping the dope. With the extra little bit of methadone you'll be golden. You might wanna consider taking some potentiators for a few days right after you come off the heroin to increase your methadone's potency. I was thinking using something like diphenhydramine or promethazine or hydrazine and tagamet.

And since you're already on methadone, unless you have a realllly good reason I wouldn't worry about switching to bupe even if it was easy to get. You'd have to go through a bit of significant trouble to detox from the methadone while you're about to be inducted onto bupe. Not worth it, like I said, unless you have a really good reason (thus making the discomfort involved the switch worth it).