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MDMA charge applying to "Ecstasy Pills" containing non-controlled substances

So In the state that I'm from, Illinois, MDMA is extremely controlled. Distribution of just fifteen(15) pills is a mandatory sentencing of 6-30 years and a Class X Felony following you throughout your entire life. The thing is, if someone was selling tablets(and representing them honestly) that they knew contained MDAI, TFMPP, DPT, etc would they be charged with selling ecstasy? I've had friends who were busted with pills containing MDMA and Methamphetamine, Amphetamine, or even Lidocaine in then. Even if they just were selling pills and they were implied to be psychoactive, yet not contain MDMA what would the charge look like? Everytime I've seen it they say ecstasy/ ecstasy mixture or something along those lines. Most people are not actually charged for possession/distribution/manufacture of MDMA.

Anyone have any thoughts on why that is and if you could be charged with Ecstasy distribution if the substance actually was not MDMA, yet it was just a psychoactive pill?
 
moonmaster88 said:
Most people are not actually charged for possession/distribution/manufacture of MDMA.
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If you were caught manufacturing MDMA in any part of the world then you would almost certainly be put away for a very long time. Same goes for it you were caught selling a lot of pills

Unsure about the content point though
 
moonmaster88 said:
So In the state that I'm from, Illinois, MDMA is extremely controlled. Distribution of just fifteen(15) pills is a mandatory sentencing of 6-30 years and a Class X Felony following you throughout your entire life. The thing is, if someone was selling tablets(and representing them honestly) that they knew contained MDAI, TFMPP, DPT, etc would they be charged with selling ecstasy? I've had friends who were busted with pills containing MDMA and Methamphetamine, Amphetamine, or even Lidocaine in then. Even if they just were selling pills and they were implied to be psychoactive, yet not contain MDMA what would the charge look like? Everytime I've seen it they say ecstasy/ ecstasy mixture or something along those lines. Most people are not actually charged for possession/distribution/manufacture of MDMA.

Anyone have any thoughts on why that is and if you could be charged with Ecstasy distribution if the substance actually was not MDMA, yet it was just a psychoactive pill?
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i think the way the laws are written in IL it allows the DA the leeway to charge people for selling counterfeit/analog drugs as well but AFAIK the specific drugs you mentioned are not scheduled so they are really in a legal grey area... what it really comes down to is whether the DA wants to try to make the case and how good of a lawyer the person has...
 
I wasn't aware legal discussion was no longer allowed. I actually am currently not in any legal troubles at the moment though. I just wanted to know how people being caught with pipes and other non-MDMA containing pills still get an "Ecstasy charge". Mods you can lock this thread up then, sorry.
 
Don't know about Illinois, but in Sydney and most of Australia, selling inactive pills will have you charged with intent, and you will receive the same sentencing as someone selling active pills.
 
In California, drugs or talcum powder doesn't matter, if you represented it as drugs, they're drugs to the DA. Incredible, but true.
Lotta states have this first time thing where you don't plead guilty (or something) and they drug test the hell out of you for a couple of years, you have to go to classes, got a probation officer, but if you can make it though that, you won't have a record. However, you miss a piss test, or somehow don't make it through the program, you're a felon, also you've already pled guilty to get into the program, so you're screwed. Wonder how many make it through? I didn't.
 
But you know how those drug users are, drug use is considered a DISEASE. They have to keep you from spreading it. Too many people get the disease, somethings might change, prison industry might suffer. The felony conviction is for your own good, anyway. Once a junkie, always a junkie!
 
The 'legal' issue does hamper things but....

If you were in possession of tablets made of non-controlled substances and you were giving them to people who you made aware they were of a non controlled substance variety you can be arrested for (but not charged) with the sale of a controlled substance.

To receive an actual charge means there has to be enough evidence that you were breaking a law.

To be arrested you should (in theory) have to be breaking a 'law' - If you were selling legal pills as ecstasy you could be arrested (and you should be shot).
 
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