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Christ! said:
Here's a website I stumbled across ages ago, it's meth information with a gay focus AFAIK - http://www.tweaker.org/home.html

Keep in mind it's a US website so lots of stuff will be different.

As others have said, it's not worth messing with. Meth has messed up lots of people, including those with great will power. Check out some of the experiences on erowid under: addiction+habituation.

You'd be better off doing heroin IMO.

Here's a link to some experiences - http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Methamphetamine_Addiction_Habituation.shtml

Lots of people start out like you and end up ruined so just keep that in mind and do some more research :)
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"You'd be better off doing heroin" i agree with you %100 there mate smack just has a really bad stigma and you must admit its not the best substance for partying and havin a root :)
 
Pnp could work with xtc, or even weed. Meth is good cos it keeps things going for a long time. Haven't felt the urge for more yet and didn't like the come down, its nice feeling back to normal again. I think its the sort of thing I will do every few months or so when I have the time to disappear from my real life for a while. Sex was awesome on it but my cock is still recovering, looks a little red and sore. What else do you pnp on ?
 
collier said:
What else do you pnp on ?
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You missed the point. I am not gay and frankly there are aspects of some gay lifestyles that I personally fail to see how it leads to any type of real happiness or satisfaction in life. Beats are another example I just don't get. Don't get me wrong, a lot of hetero lifestyles make me wonder the same thing.

But you seem to like it. What I am saying is now that you have experienced it with meth can it ever be the same without it? You have no choice but change your lifestyle or keep using meth. The next step will be when taking meth will be the main point of so called pnp episodes.
 
Ahh ok, the gay world is complicated as is my life. I have an awesome partner of over 5 yrs, he is younger than me. He doesnt know what I get up to on the side. Yeah I am an asshole but I get bored and look for fun. I have loads of time off and he is away alot, no excuse but I just get bored. I lived in London before Oz and miss my old life a little.

pnp without meth isnt pnp, pnp is fucking while high on something. I will still be having sex and group sex without drugs. I dont do beats but do like sex on site venues, many straight friends wish straights had a place to go where you just have no strings sex in a private environment.
 
We have brothels, and hookers. Are you saying that gay men (women too?) basically have free brothels known as sex on site venues? How do they earn money, alcohol?
 
Lol your taking the piss aye.......they are clubs that guys go to for random sex with guys. You pay an entrance fee, anything from 5 to 2010 bucks for upto 24 hours of cruising and fucking. There are usually rooms with plastic covered couches, glory holes, some places are wet sauna where guys screw in jacuzzis and steam rooms.
 
Seriously not taking the piss. I know nothing and I find it interesting. I have heard of "party and play" before, but I did not know there were clubs dedicated to that kind of thing. Excuse my ignorance, I'm a country bumpkin.

I thought glory holes were just in porn, haha. I guess if they're at a venue where the intention is clear, it would work fine. I just couldn't ever imagine a glory hole in any real life situation that I've ever been in, that's another thing I've learned today. Thanks collier.
 
Ice is fun aint it?, its a whole different euphoria compared to pills and weed. Just make sure you don't go overboard with it and start making it a daily habit. Look after yourself while your on ice, sleep when your sleepy and eat when your hungry, don't go on benders and if you can try not to stay up for more then 48 hours. Staying up for days and re-boosting yourself when it wears off is not cool, you start getting psychosis when you go on benders and it ain't fun when your having a psychotic episode.

Do yourself a favor and don't ever start banging it. The rush you get from it is ultra euphoric and intense but IMO its not worth it in the long run. I made the mistake of banging ice the first time I ever tried it and that pretty much ruined it for me. I can't use any other ROA besides banging when it comes to ice and I wish I could go back in time and change that.
 
^ I think that applies to all drugs. Ever since that first shot, there was no way I was going back to any other ROA which I too, wish I could take back. Before the needle, I had control of my use. Now my life/thoughts/dreams revolve around drugs. Everyone is different, but the needle is an addiction in itself that is a harder habit to break than just 1 drug IMO.
 
opi8 wasnt sure if you were taking the piss or not lol. It is fairly awesome having a place to go that on a good night has a few hundred guys looking to fuck around aye. Even better when off your face on something with the raging horn and there are plenty of other guys in the same boat gagging to get off.

I cant imagine ever injecting meth, its too messy and too risky, have seen plenty of abscesses and people with screwed up veins. Can also imagine the rush would be a big turn on. Its a decent rush from booty bumping it, takes about 5 mins until I am flying high. I also have no intention to use it daily, I love sleep, its just not worth it. I think the next time I am going to use some will be in May, have a few days off and the house to myself, will buy another point and see how it goes. Might not bother with the GHB this time, didnt find it much good and was too scared to take it in a bigger volume than I did before.
 
I dont think i took enough in one go, am scared shitless of overdosing on GHB, only bought 4mls of it and diluted the buggery out of it.
 
I didn't read ALL the comments but many, and I know I'm repeating what has been suggested already but DON'T GO THERE! It takes a hold of you and it's all your mind thinks about 24/7. When you can get it again, where from, how much to use, checking the fast depleting bank account. It's not worth it!
I had a smack habit about 10 years ago, once I kicked that and got clean I thought never again would I become so dependant on something again...4 months ago I had my first hit of meth, loved it, thought that would be nice to try again, and did, now I'm worried I can't pay rent this week. Yet I'm still happy to tick a gram!! DON'T DO IT MATE! It's not the physical dependence, it's the head f%&k....
 
I appreciate your post and hope you get yourself sorted fella. I know others have said this before and were wrong but I will not get hooked. I have never been addicted to anything, still haven't gone to get more, if it gets more than once every couple of months then I will stop. It is psychological and some people are wired with less addictive minds.

Strangely after feeling the high I got from the meth I feel more compassion for some of my patients that I see who are usually in some kind of crisis.
 
collier said:
I appreciate your post and hope you get yourself sorted fella. I know others have said this before and were wrong but I will not get hooked. I have never been addicted to anything, still haven't gone to get more, if it gets more than once every couple of months then I will stop. It is psychological and some people are wired with less addictive minds.

Strangely after feeling the high I got from the meth I feel more compassion for some of my patients that I see who are usually in some kind of crisis.
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yeah but from your posts you haven't used any other addictive drugs have you? MDMA, weed, and GHB are hardly addictive substances. Have you ever used heroin or oxy? Taken benzos regularly? used strong cocaine? Safe use of these substances would be a better indicator of whether you can handle addictive substances.

I agree with you in that Ice can be used recreationally. I have used it on the odd occassion over a 4 year period. that said, I have craved it (used it less than 10 times) and I try and treat it with respect. It also helps that I don't particularly like it over other drugs. despite this, it would be very foolish of me to believe that I don't run the chance of getting addicted if i continue to use it.

anyway, having the attitude that your impervious to addiction and addiction is somehow only for those already genetically predisposed is a pretty dangerous mindset to have. Its an addictive drug and you're certainly not above addiction.
 
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