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Is it possible to dramatically reduce 2c-i and 2c-e duration?

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I've looked around bluelight and the web but I haven't been able to find anything in regards to this subject.

I'm looking for methods to reduce the duration of 2c-i and 2c-e as much as possible by any means. I understand that ROA plays the biggest role in duration and that IV/IM would be the best way to shave time off the trip (some reports say the entire duration is 2-3 hours,) but I am not interested in this due to the increased bioavailability intensifying the effects too much. Rectal seems like a nice compromise, but will still have a duration of 4+ hours, I'm looking for ways to make it much shorter than that.

Drugs that speed up metabolism and drug absorption seem like they might help accomplish this, but I'm not sure what options are available or recommended. I'm also not sure how effective they would be, especially considering that a rectal administration would circumvent a large portion of metabolism anyway.

Certain foods also speed up metabolism, but I assume that the effects would be menial and pale in comparison to drugs designed to accomplish this.

What other options are available? Am I trying to do something that is impossible?

I am also aware that dosing and killing the trip early with a cocktail of benzodiazepines and antipsychotics would accomplish this to a degree, I'm interested in hearing opinions on this as well.

I often see threads and posts here asking how to potentiate and make drugs last longer, and this proves to be a pretty difficult task for most drugs. Surely doing the opposite is much easier?

Also, I apologize if this belongs in ADD.
 
Well, there are other chemicals of the 2C-family with shorter durations. I would look into 2C-B, C, D or the tryptamines if time is really such an issue.
 
Vaporization would drastically shorten the trip. I'm not sure what the dose would be, but a bit of research would clear that up.
 
Insufflation will also shorten the duration, though like any ROA that does so, it will intensify the come up, which seems to be your main concern with the IM/IV approach. Can I ask why you're interested in doing this?
 
as some one that gets kind of a sick rush out of snorting 2c's just a warning, about half of the time i do it i throw up. the come up can quite unbearable. and to echo what ever one else is saying benzos will take the edge off and hopefully bring you down.
 
I'm going to second the suggestion to look into 2C-C and 2C-D. There's no simple way to reduce the duration of 2C-I or 2C-E without some kind of trickery (insufflation/IV to cause "rapid tolerance increase" or somesuch mechanism)
 
I would try 2C-C, too.

Sniffing 2C-I and 2C-E doesn't shorten the effects, it just reduces come-up time.

Plugging psychedelics in general never seemed to shorten effects either, just reduces come-up time and makes them stronger.

Vaporizing 2C-I or 2C-E will not give you the same quality of experience, it's not worth it.
 
IM/IV would be your best bet for making E/I shorter, as for your plugging idea, not really, it'll make it almost as strong as IM/IV but longer too.
 
Vaporisation brings 2C-E down to about 4-6 hours.

You can load the vape with about 10mg and a touch of baking soda and water, then use a tealight to heat.

Done in a bulb vape you burn very little. It comes on nearly instantly so you can take hits until you're happy with the intensity.
 
Antipsychotics or benzos.
You answered your own question I think. There are no other ways to reliably shorten a trip that I am familiar with.
In one case, I had a 2C-C trip which seemed to last at least an hour less than it would normally, and I attributed this to the fact that I had been walking around a nature trail the entire time. However, I wouldn't rely on this as a method for shortening anything.

Look into 2C-D though. I found it has a pretty similar character to it as 2C-E, but less intense and shorter duration. I call it 2C-E-lite
 
timmytucker said:
may i ask why it's necessary to shorten the trip?
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Because people generally have stuff to do at some point ;)

Some people just don't have more than 2 hours of free time they can responsibly dedicate to an experience.

When my work load went up to 80 hours a week, made opportunities for a good long lasting psychedelic experience difficult.

Miss Ketamine for that reason, 1 hour lunch break, 1 hour duration.
 
2C-E HCl is still easily vaporised without freebasing, but 2C-B does burn a little as the HCl salt.
 
I think you should do some other drugs instead - or wait until you have enough time to take the ride. How about smoking some DMT instead?
 
^Bingo. No magic answers here, get some different drugs or wait until the day you have time. No matter what ROA you use you're not going to get it reliably down to 2-3 hours, and taking a bunch of other shit to knock you out or whatever probably isn't a good idea since you'll be affecting sleep quality or something, and if you're working 80 hours a week you need your rest.
 
So, you trip on your lunch break? Jesus, I feel guilty enough running home for a quick bite and a toke on my lunch break, and you're railing ketamine? Well, who am I to judge, to each his own. I suggest you look into DMT, I've even heard it dubbed "the businessman's trip" because you can have mind-expanding, fulfilling psychedelic experiences all inside an hour's time. 2 hours later you'll feel as if you hadn't taken anything at all.

May I ask, what is it that occupies so much of your time that you have no more than 2 hours to dedicate to a recreational activity? I mean, I'm busy as fuck with work right now, I get home every night exhausted and no time for much else, however I'm sure if I felt it was really important enough, I could find the time for a solid ~8 hour mind vacation with really upsetting my work schedule that much.

Either you think you are busier than you actually are, or you are only this busy for a while and you simply cannot wait for it to slow down to have your experience. Am I close?
 
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