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drugs or substances you won't touch again

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cocaine because i just don't like it, same with crack
mdma because i had a 2 year weekend affair with it, and then bad pills shaped like smurf characters terrorized me into never using it again.
and ketamine because the one time i took it i ended up blacking out for a whole night in Toronto, i dont remember anything except sitting outside a nightclub i was at, smoking a cigarette, at the time thinking when i had walked outside i had gone into the "jungle" or something. then i blacked out until finally coming to while the security at the hotel i was staying at had to escort me to my hotel room. I guess i had left the room and was tripping so bad i couldnt remember my room number :( i was really lucky because it was a nice hotel and i'm sure if id have been home in the US id have been in jail that night!
 
MDPV deranged my blood pressure and left me with serious anxiety for several months after I stopped using. And that addictive bugger made it hard to stop using in the face of health problems. Yuck.
 
Lets just say diphenhydramine levels are never going above 50mg in MY body ever again. haha. I will probably take a low dose of mushrooms, but I tend to stay away from LSD. I MIGHT take LSD once more, if only to document the experience, to reflect on. I probably would never take 2c-b again. (hospital visit) I tend to stay away from cannabis and all the chemical alternatives, but I probably will continue to use cannabis sporadically throughout my life. (especially while drunk, and for introspection) I do enjoy k2 for introspection, but the rush from even a tiny, TINY hit, scares the fucking shit out of me. Darvocet gives me hives and also depression, for whatever reason. (I am a full-out, daily user, pill/heroin junkie, and I cannot take darvocet without becoming itchy and depressed. Codeine and morphine also give me a milder case of bumps) I won't be using DXM to achieve a high ever again either. Anything else that I have not mentioned, that is not psychedelic in nature, is OK with me. Bring it on!
 
Suboxone, I shouldn't of told myself that I needed it to stay off opiates when I'm perfectly capable of staying off them without it.
 
SameOldShit101 said:
Lets just say diphenhydramine levels are never going above 50mg in MY body ever again.
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Oh, that's one I forgot. I used to do stupid amounts of diphenhydramine. That stuff is no good. I still take it to help sleep, and unfortunately I need at least 100 mg to help with that, but I won't be popping 16 Benadryl anytime soon...
 
even though certain substances have had a bold negative influence in my life

i can say that if you put anything recreational in front of my face i'd re-dabble
 
Adderall. NEVER again. I have not been a recreational drug user for years because of testing but do miss some of them. One day years ago, I may have gotten ahold of 350mgs. of ADD and with no tolerance, proceeded to insufflate 70mgs to start and redose every hour or so. By the 12th hour, without realizing it, I was out of pills. It was the most moronic thing that I have ever done and that includes 8 Schlitz malt liquors on top of a lude back in '86.

While still high on ADD, I couldn't concentrate, read and could barely talk. Someone please answer this, My BP was 100/78 (my normal is very low at 80/55). This is the weird part, my heartrate was 41!! I had a sober person double check and that was correct. Is it because of the moronic dose that I used, that caused an opposite affect on the heart? I have always wondered how close I came to meeting the reaper that night.
Do I need to explain the paranoia and psychosis on the comedown?
 
Alcohol for sure. (Since I became addicted to alcohol; haven't had a drop for ~3 years.)

Doxylamine succinate. This is another histamine I just took 100mg of since I hadn't slept in a few days (sober). 50mg was the recommended dose. But I ended up with a histamine overdose syndrome where I became very delirious. What I did next was crazy (I don't remember doing it of course): I started taking all the pills from my medication box. Fortunately I didn't have anything dangerous and the worst thing was eating a whole big box of tums. It took another 2-3 days for the delirium to stop. I've taken a fair amount of diphenhdyramine before with total control but this was crazy. Never going there again.

Cocaine. I travel a fair amount and there's one place I go to where I do coke with a friend there once a year or so. I've done this two times. The second time rather than waiting to do with my friend (who is a moderate user) I found a dealer who would come deliver it to my hotel room (and I guess we got to know each other and the dealer claims to look up to me). I used it daily for 2-3 weeks after purifying it (people mix it with nasty nasty nasty stuff). I then returned back and I don't even think about it very much (i.e., I honestly do not crave coke once I finished the last bit when I left). I'm wondering though if I'll want to do coke again when I return back in a few months. I would rather never see this dealer again. But during those three weeks, I demonstrated very addictive behaviour even though I was highly functional (in fact I could almost say the coke helped with my demanding schedule).

I've tried street cocaine before and I've never liked it but my purified form was potent. I seem to have outsmarted myself. My hope is that the next time I travel there I don't call the dealer right away but rather do something else and enjoy the place like I used to before I started using coke there. I'm apprehensive about this.
 
damn man... I've had my share of unwanted anti-histamine delerium, but I'm shocked 100 mg of doxylamine succinate was enough to take you there (granted I had built up a massive tolerance, so by the time delirium began to take effect, i was consuming around 350mg of diphenhydramine/doxylamine a night). Still I feel your pain. I hate anti-histamine's, they are not recreational in the least IMO (unless your a true masochist) but I still use them with discretion for sleep, as I have insomnia, and can't get anything worthwhile prescribed (though to be honest, zolpidem and zopiclone never did the trick, only triazolam and alprazolam work for me).

I would really like to say that I wont touch cocaine again. There are plenty of other stimulants that are much more euphoric (including dextroamphetamine), but the rush from I.V cocaine is untouchable. On the other hand, its not worth the self mutilation, paranoia and psychosis that comes along with those heavenly bells.
 
The scaries part is that my medicine box at that time had only vitamins and tums, no medications since I had yet to refill most of them. But I just went nuts on those. The thing is that there's another report on Erowid saying exactly the same thing, where they ate too much of their stash after being on an antihistamine delirium. In fact the title of it is rather funny and goes something like "If you want trip on this, hide your stash!"

I've taken up to 1000mg/day of diphenhydramine without a problem (once). I bought doxyamine to see how it worked...

I've had only good experiences with cocaine, but I can see it getting really bad if I go back to that city and hook up with the dealer again to try it. So we'll see. The interesting thing is that I'm going to land there and a bunch of something else is waiting for me, something I really love and my last use was like 5 years ago. So I was thinking I'd be on that for this trip (though it can't be daily for sure).

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damn man... I've had my share of unwanted anti-histamine delerium, but I'm shocked 100 mg of doxylamine succinate was enough to take you there (granted I had built up a massive tolerance, so by the time delirium began to take effect, i was consuming around 350mg of diphenhydramine/doxylamine a night). Still I feel your pain. I hate anti-histamine's, they are not recreational in the least IMO (unless your a true masochist) but I still use them with discretion for sleep, as I have insomnia, and can't get anything worthwhile prescribed (though to be honest, zolpidem and zopiclone never did the trick, only triazolam and alprazolam work for me).

I would really like to say that I wont touch cocaine again. There are plenty of other stimulants that are much more euphoric (including dextroamphetamine), but the rush from I.V cocaine is untouchable. On the other hand, its not worth the self mutilation, paranoia and psychosis that comes along with those heavenly bells.
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Yeah, do you inject your coke? I ask because I can see how when insufflated cocaine can/has been relatively harmless (for me-though dont misinterpret me, cocaine is addictive no matter what) The problem is that I don't like the insufflated high, because I get twenty minutes where I'm feeling real pumped up, aggressive, ready for some intellectual debate, and after thirty minutes, I start to feel myself sort of sink back into the corner of the room, I can't talk, and I usually (if I'm to be honest, feel like I'm going to start crying if I don't get the fuck out of there.)

IV coke is so different though, because it's really not a "high" it's a rush. I can sit in a bathroom for hours on end shooting coke, knowing "this is really fucking horrible for my body, my veins are closing up my organs hurt etc, etc.." and I'll continue because even as the rush begins to diminish (due to depleting all my dopamine), I just don't want to face that crash, where I'm lying on my couch, sweating bullets (and that sweat SMELLS like cocaine *blech*), trying to tell myself I won't use the next day-just to ease my conscience so I can fall asleep, wake up, and rationalize picking up some more blow the very next night.
 
I do purify the coke and I put it into nasal drops and use it everywhere. (I do this with many substances; people are used to seeing use a nasal dropper and I repeatedly complain of my nose being blocked. The things we do...) So it's a really potent high. Not IV like for sure (never tried this) but way better than a line for me. Yep, it's the rush! It's not that different from IV dilaudid (in a hospital) to me. So perhaps dropping a drop of pretty pure cocaine hcl in your nose is like a milder version of the IV, more than snorting powder which works slower and is perhaps less efficient MAINLY because there is SO MUCH CRAP out there. Man, if you guys who use cocaine saw the stuff I filtered out, I bet many of you would think twice at least. Talcum powder, detergent, and who knows what else are things I've extracted out.

So after the 30-90 minutes, or even sooner, I keep redosing. I just do it 24/7 for 2-3 days in a row. I sleep/crash and then I repeat. This is ONLY for like 2-3 weeks a year or twice a year at most when I go to a certain place in the world.

I can see how you'd feel down after the use, but I never get there in front of people. When the party's over I'm still dosing and asking "why is everyone leaving?" :) So actually we have a similar attitude about it. This is bad for us I guess in that we can't seem to stop or we want to keep going as long as our body can hold out. I know many users who are much more "social", like doing a line every 3-5 hours. When I am with them and don't have my drops I can do that too. But when I am dosing on my own and no one knows (mainly because everyone's drunk and I'm normally this way, very hyperactive, sober), I just want to keep going like you. And once I experience the drops, it seems like I just want to keep going. But then after I finish my last dose at the airport before going through security I just throw the bottle out and never look back and sleep the entire way back on the plane (always fly first class nonstop is my recommendation :). I don't use in the US.

I hope if you IV and use coke you don't do it with the actual powder but rather purify it... it's not too hard and the recipes for it are out there on the Internet. You'll see how little actual cocaine is there in the street stuff. Crazy.


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Yeah, do you inject your coke? I ask because I can see how when insufflated cocaine can/has been relatively harmless (for me-though dont misinterpret me, cocaine is addictive no matter what) The problem is that I don't like the insufflated high, because I get twenty minutes where I'm feeling real pumped up, aggressive, ready for some intellectual debate, and after thirty minutes, I start to feel myself sort of sink back into the corner of the room, I can't talk, and I usually (if I'm to be honest, feel like I'm going to start crying if I don't get the fuck out of there.)

IV coke is so different though, because it's really not a "high" it's a rush. I can sit in a bathroom for hours on end shooting coke, knowing "this is really fucking horrible for my body, my veins are closing up my organs hurt etc, etc.." and I'll continue because even as the rush begins to diminish (due to depleting all my dopamine), I just don't want to face that crash, where I'm lying on my couch, sweating bullets (and that sweat SMELLS like cocaine *blech*), trying to tell myself I won't use the next day-just to ease my conscience so I can fall asleep, wake up, and rationalize picking up some more blow the very next night.
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Probably any psychedelic. I never had a bad trip or anything but I used to love them when I was younger, especially acid. Then around age 21 or so I just wanted it to end everytime I did them because I got too self-reflective, it wasn't that carefree feeling of tripping I got when I was in high school or something. Haven't tripped in like 7 years.

Coke too, but if I was drunk and someone offered me a line I probably wouldn't turn it down. Just stopped liking it upon discovering downers.
 
Ambien and DPH was the worst idea for a combo ever. I was 16 when it happened and it sent me to the hospital after a seizure. dont think im gonna touch either of those ever again (in an attempt to get high anyways)
 
crystal meth - was an addict for years, loooved to smoke shards. but the last few times i tried it i literally felt like i was dying when i crashed. havent touched it in years, but am constantly around people who use. tweakers sure will give you a strange look when they pass the pipe to you and you turn it down.

salvia - what a terrible feeling. i felt i was possessed, felt an ARM shoved down my throat, and physically felt my arms turn into tentacles. not for me.

ecstacy - i ate pills almost every weekend in the early 2000s when they still actually contained MDxx compounds. once the pipes hit the scene so did nausea and incredible depression. last time i took ecstacy was in 2004 for new years, molly, supposed pure MDMA in capsules. i was on the floor in the kitchen in the fetal position with the worst nausea i had ever felt. no euphoria at all. strange too, i got them from a very reliable source and everyone else seemed to enjoy themselves. i also developed TMJ syndrome as a result of e-buse, my jaw pops alot when i eat... which oughta be loads of fun when i get older.

DXM - i understand some of you love this stuff... but i dont. its gross.

JWH / spice - i smoke pot daily, over about a ten year period so i thought i could handle synthetic marijuana. boy was i wrong. experienced a major panic attack right before going to the airport, which is so the wrong time to have a panic attack.

PCP - or wet, fry, water, whatever you wanna call it. i didnt have a bad trip, but found it terribly unpleasant. felt like my brain turned into rocks. constant feeling of falling. empty. id compare it to a bad movie that you cant leave so you just wait for it to end.

san pedro - im guessing i did it wrong, but even if i did it correctly or knew somebody that could, theres no way id choke down another cup of cactus sludge. by far the worst tasting thing ive ever tried.

LSA - never tried HBW seeds, only heavenly blue MG. save your effort kids, the horrible nausea, pain behind your knee caps, and the weird feeling "like my organs are being stretched" isnt worth the very mild psychedelic mindset.

tramadol - ugh. just... ugh.

black tar - im an opiate addict (pills) but i dont inject. once whilst dopesick and my main guy was outta town for the weekend somebody was able to find me some tar. i was excited... not only would my sickness go away but i will probably get higher than i do from pills, right? i mean, its fucking heroin! first trial i decided to smoke it. burned most of it, got a few hits in, but nothing to produce any euphoria. second trial, cooked in a spoon and snorted the solution... next to zero. third and last trial, cooked in a spoon and plugging. zip. not once did i feel a high, but wasnt dopesick so i guess thats gotta count for something. and another thing - how do you dopeheads do it?? especially when your sick?? trying to transer the tar onto the spoon from the baggie was so fucking annoying!!! especially with shakey hands. heroin just isnt for me.

well, thats all i can think about now... and minus all these new RCs and especially the stimulant RCs, ive tried just about everything. opiods are my favorite. 10 norco CWE and 4 soma are waiting for me at home once i get off work today... mmmmmmmm
 
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Diphenhydramine/hydrinate- due to twitching
Dxm- due to intense nausea taking a 2500 mg dose that has deterred me for life
LSA- just figure that acid would be just as hard to get at this point lol

Other than that I'm fair game. Also avoiding heroin but time will tell if it makes the list =D
 
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