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The Big & Dandy Salvia Thread - Second iteration

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Get a bong and a torch lighter. Apply direct constant flame to bowl. Inhale, hold breath. Proceed to lose mind.
 
Salvia??

Hey out there. Whats the deal with this stuff man. Ive heard crappy and great things about this stuff. i just ordered some. I gram of 5X. I think thats low enough for me. Ive tripped on acid, shrooms, and mescaline but its been awhile. I have chronic pain due to blood clots so Im on methadone for pain. Basically, I just wanna short, intense trip. I have a safe enviornment with my ipod, hdtv, and mandolin, haha. I started smoking weed again a couple of months ago for pain relief. I am going to sprinkle a bit on top of somr kush in my bowl. Ant input from yall out there? What can I expect. Ant precautions I should take. Thanks!!
 
closeau said:
Hey out there. Whats the deal with this stuff man. Ive heard crappy and great things about this stuff. i just ordered some. I gram of 5X. I think thats low enough for me. Ive tripped on acid, shrooms, and mescaline but its been awhile. I have chronic pain due to blood clots so Im on methadone for pain. Basically, I just wanna short, intense trip. I have a safe enviornment with my ipod, hdtv, and mandolin, haha. I started smoking weed again a couple of months ago for pain relief. I am going to sprinkle a bit on top of somr kush in my bowl. Ant input from yall out there? What can I expect. Ant precautions I should take. Thanks!!
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First thing you'll need is a windproof torch lighter, the type that's kinda like a mini jet engine. Your standard butane lighter isn't hot enough to vapourise Salvia properly so smoking it on top of weed is a waste of time and gear. I've only ever had 15x extract and really didn't like it. The physical sensation of ants crawling under my skin negated any positives, not that the positives were that enjoyable in the first place. I tried hits of various size over the course of a few weeks giving very full-on breakthroughs / immersive visuals trying to work out what the appeal was with the one vial I bought and ended up throwing nearly half of it away and trust me, I never waste drugs. Shitty stuff IME, worth a go for curiosity's sake but not worth repeating.
 
The first time I did salvia it was intense. My friends told me it was very strong... two of them went to the head shop to pick it up and they said it was 40x. Some people say that 40x doesn't exist, but I shit you not - this totally fucked me up (for two minutes). I didn't expect it at all. I completely underestimated it... to give you an example of what I mean, shortly after exhaling I no longer realized where I was and I forgot what I just smoked. Here's my full post about it: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/613683-M-Hole?p=10392981&viewfull=1#post10392981

Would I try it again? Yes. Would I recommend it? Not really. It's not really the type of stuff to smoke regularly either. I wouldn't say I like or dislike salvia.
 
Pack between .25-.50g in a pipe and torch the shit out of it, best if you have a torch lighter, but not necessary. Take in your hits and hold them, lay back and relax. Salvia is best experienced in the dark, with no sound, on a bed or something similar.

You,ve also got to build a relationship with, and a respect for Salvia. There is a good chance it will be overwhelming if you break through, and you might not like the things you are shown. But trust me, there is something to be learned in every Salvia trip. One thing I will tell you is that integration is key to these experiences; if you don't give yourself the time to piece together the experience and adjust your life according to what it showed you, and you return to Salvialand before you've done these things, you will be rightly bitschslapped.
 
That little bit on top of a bowl will not do much. You need an actual dose, such as what Venrak stated, to receive its full effects.

By the way, every extraction or Salvia contains the same chemical, so the only difference between your 5x and Euphoric State's 40x is that you need a little bit more plant material to break through. Good luck op :)
 
stormcharger said:
Not that much will happen with 5X so you might be underwhelmed.
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Not true, my first breakthrough was with a big dose of S.D. leaves, not extract, in a bong, with a normal butane lighter.
Its all a matter of smoking technique.
Just smoke a big dose and hold it.
 
Venrak said:
Pack between .25-.50g in a pipe and torch the shit out of it, best if you have a torch lighter, but not necessary. Take in your hits and hold them, lay back and relax. Salvia is best experienced in the dark, with no sound, on a bed or something similar.

You,ve also got to build a relationship with, and a respect for Salvia. There is a good chance it will be overwhelming if you break through, and you might not like the things you are shown. But trust me, there is something to be learned in every Salvia trip. One thing I will tell you is that integration is key to these experiences; if you don't give yourself the time to piece together the experience and adjust your life according to what it showed you, and you return to Salvialand before you've done these things, you will be rightly bitschslapped.
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I feel that stays true to several drugs, and I definitely know what you mean. I'll come prepared the next time I come across Salvia.

freehugs said:
That little bit on top of a bowl will not do much. You need an actual dose, such as what Venrak stated, to receive its full effects.

By the way, every extraction or Salvia contains the same chemical, so the only difference between your 5x and Euphoric State's 40x is that you need a little bit more plant material to break through. Good luck op :)
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It's Euphoric Status. :p
 
Thanks to Vernack and all. I got some in a shop today. Totally out of the blue. She had it hidden. I got 10X 2g's. I got home and smoked a small amount and liked it. So, I put in about 1/4 of a gram and BAM...thats all it took. I have high sensitivity to things like this. Maybe its bad stuff, I dont know. I hade some pleasurable sense heightened and everything was bright. I just listened to my ipod and I watches Bob Ross on PBS paint a pic. R.I.P. Bob Ross!! Thanks again for the input. I couldnt afford her best seller, mr nice guy or something but Im goin back tomorrow to get some. Lata!
 
Tip: Do no attempt to stand up while you smoke the Salvia. It will knock you on your ass, literally. Also, the ipod, hdtv, and mandolin will not be needed for a salvia trip. You may want to note the time just before you leave though. It is the only thing that has ever really taken me out of my head.
 
closeau said:
I hade some pleasurable sense heightened and everything was bright.
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You've not had anything near the full effect if that's all you got. You will completely lose contact with your surroundings, external reality, your mind and body themselves with a properly active dose.

First time I did it was within half an hour of getting home from the trip into town to buy the stuff. As it hit 3-dimensional coloured patterns based on what I could see around me started to impose themselves over the real world, becoming more and more intense until the patterns were all I was aware of as they brightened and morphed, eventually coming to the conclusion I was laid on on the floor of the bus I'd travelled home on desperately trying to get up to ring the bell for the driver to let me off cos I was approaching my stop, the sound from the TV in the background being completely unintelligble and making no sense at all, just adding to my confusion. Trust me, you'll know about it when you have a full dose.
 
I tried Salvia a few times out of curiosity and that was pretty much it. I remember I turned into a statue for like 5 mins and there was nothing more to it. Like one of the previous posters, I ended up throwing away rest of it.
 
closeau said:
Thanks to Vernack and all. I got some in a shop today. Totally out of the blue. She had it hidden. I got 10X 2g's. I got home and smoked a small amount and liked it. So, I put in about 1/4 of a gram and BAM...thats all it took. I have high sensitivity to things like this. Maybe its bad stuff, I dont know. I hade some pleasurable sense heightened and everything was bright. I just listened to my ipod and I watches Bob Ross on PBS paint a pic. R.I.P. Bob Ross!! Thanks again for the input. I couldnt afford her best seller, mr nice guy or something but Im goin back tomorrow to get some. Lata!
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Yeah, you definitely did not break through. After I read that you took a quarter gram of 10x I winced because that is a considerable dose, but there must have been something off with your smoking technique if you didn't reach full effects. I highly recommend the next time you try it that you are in a comfortable, dark, quiet environment as stimulus can be transformed into some very disturbing phenomena. Also, be sure to keep your flame on the bowl while you take your hits to be sure to vapourize the salvorin-a. Next time you try it, pack the same amount as last time if not a little less and really torch the shit out of it while smoking. It takes me about 75mg (0.075g) of 20x to break through, so that should correlate to around 150mg for some 10x. From the sounds of your experience though it sounds like you were quite far from breaking through as you didn't describe any visual or perceptual disturbances.
 
Yeah, I def didnt break thru and thank goodness. Im a dental tech and a courier and I had to go to the lab and deliver a case to a dentist office, while on the stuff. Im glad I didnt leave the planet cause that was important. I have 3g of this stuff by tomorrow. Tomorrow night Ill be in a comfy spot with no distractions. Ill try to break thru then. I tell yall though, I enjoyed what I got. Sometimes having a light buzz is nice too. I do wanna get the full effect though. Thanks for the tips!!
 
loganjp said:
Tip: Do no attempt to stand up while you smoke the Salvia. It will knock you on your ass, literally. Also, the ipod, hdtv, and mandolin will not be needed for a salvia trip. You may want to note the time just before you leave though. It is the only thing that has ever really taken me out of my head.
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Do not attempt? The first time I smoked Salvia I didn't even remember how to stand up. This shit can be crazy, good or bad.
 
closeau said:
Yeah, I def didnt break thru and thank goodness. Im a dental tech and a courier and I had to go to the lab and deliver a case to a dentist office, while on the stuff. Im glad I didnt leave the planet cause that was important. I have 3g of this stuff by tomorrow. Tomorrow night Ill be in a comfy spot with no distractions. Ill try to break thru then. I tell yall though, I enjoyed what I got. Sometimes having a light buzz is nice too. I do wanna get the full effect though. Thanks for the tips!!
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It only lasts like 15 minutes max anyway.
 
I was wondering if you guys feel any emotional mood lift (euphoria) or physical sensations on salvia. I find it physically very uncomfortable and devoid of positive emotions but some of my friends have experienced differently so I was just curious.
 
loremipsum said:
has anyone tried to smoke salvia while on MXE? just curios.
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i know its wastefull but i made a salvia joint [ 20X ] on MXE.....stuck a memory stick in my x-box to look for a movie to watch.
accidently ended up watching a slide show of photos instead...was a very thought provoking, life afirming and moving few minutes.
Once the joint was over the salvia left me very quickly and i was left with my beer and dorritos feeling utterly stunned and quite sad it was over.
as for a breakthrough on MXE ? i've heard it lasts longer....but dont have the balls to try it

ps. re salvia in a joint....it is a waste...i held in each toke for a long time....holding tobacco smoke in for so long is not a nice thing to do to yourself...i would only recomend it on MXE...
 
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