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Wait, are you in the UK or in Beverly MA? Because the US is still good. It doesn't seem to be as popular here, so it hasn't stirred up much trouble.
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MXE ban in the UK: "'Safe ketamine' referred to drug experts"
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Wait, are you in the UK or in Beverly MA? Because the US is still good. It doesn't seem to be as popular here, so it hasn't stirred up much trouble.
they wont listen if you did well be treated like this as long as ppl acept it
Just luck hiw long banks got away with ppi
We jyst let stuff happen
psood0nym
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Official Referral Statement (as requested above)
EDIT: People may be able to have some minor sway over the process if enough UK citizens write the Home Office and their more progressive newspapers with their anti-depressant MXE stories NOW. It's likely the end of recreational MXE, yes, but if there's medical or scientific interest maybe it could be eventually classed in a way that allows easier access to MXE for researchers investigating potential medical uses (long shot, but it's something).
I was (not so obviously) talking about American peanut butter there, not British. But yeah, I would expect a spike in the UK if supply runs low and there's still some time left towards the end. However, it's difficult to say because time may be so short. There's only until April 2 "at the latest" until the "consultation and advise process for invoking temporary class drug orders between the Government and the ACMD" is over. Yet prices have not spiked or dropped dramatically yet so far as I know. I'm not from the UK or familiar with this process, but it doesn't sound like the April 2 date is the actual ban date (just when one important part of the process is scheduled to be done). I don't know how long it takes for a ban to take effect after the advising process is over. It's fun drugs we're talking about so my guess is it's a fairly quick rubber stamp thing to make them banned.
EDIT: People may be able to have some minor sway over the process if enough UK citizens write the Home Office and their more progressive newspapers with their anti-depressant MXE stories NOW. It's likely the end of recreational MXE, yes, but if there's medical or scientific interest maybe it could be eventually classed in a way that allows easier access to MXE for researchers investigating potential medical uses (long shot, but it's something).
No. I'd be curious if anyone knows of a recreational drug that's ever been temporarily banned and then unbanned because either the UK or US government was unable to "prove" it warrants permanent ban during the ensuing year. I think maybe ephedrine had "something" like this happen in the US (because there was lots of money behind it). Still, at this point all ephedrine is limited to very low doses per tablet and is almost an order of magnitude more expensive per dose than when it was unregulated. Oh well, now there's the largely untested dimethylamylamine to fill the void (and the beat goes on).
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*dharmabum*
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The big UK based vendors do seem to be cutting their prices now... (after I've stocked up)
Lol :D
Didn't BZP start cropping up everywhere after it was banned though? I wasn't doing pills at that time but had the impression that the banning just led to more widespread use of the stuff by dodgy characters as the active ingredient in their "E's". Could that not be similar in this scenario, just substituting the letter E for K?
Unlike Venrak I've been assuming you were being sarcastic, if not then please disregard
I would have thought this would be an excellent way to speed up the implementation of a US ban
Lol :D
Didn't BZP start cropping up everywhere after it was banned though? I wasn't doing pills at that time but had the impression that the banning just led to more widespread use of the stuff by dodgy characters as the active ingredient in their "E's". Could that not be similar in this scenario, just substituting the letter E for K?
Unlike Venrak I've been assuming you were being sarcastic, if not then please disregard
I would have thought this would be an excellent way to speed up the implementation of a US ban
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In Beverly, MA, but I haven't found one legit US vendor. They all look sketchy to me and I just don't want to risk losing money, especially not now.
Pretty much.
Nope... and that's why everyone here is pretty sure the UK is going to ban it.
Why would dmaa plug the void its a shitty stim in jack3d
psood0nym
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^Off topic, but because ephedrine is a shitty recreational stim too (about as recreational as DMAA), DMAA is cheaper, and DMAA is being used like ephedrine to enhance workouts (which it does work for) and to cheat in athletic competitions. Search trip reports for Renz Envy's report about it as a workout supplement and you'll see posters agreeing. The context of that quote is ephedrine, not recreational stim replacement.
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Seems like nothing official has been released yet. I'm guessing they're going to wait until April 2nd to announce their decision. I guess the saddest part of this all is that you know the chances of this not getting banned are extremely slim... oh well, we'll just have to wait and see.
foolsgold
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A so-called legal high used as an alternative to ketamine will be the first drug to be banned under new Government powers, the Home Office has said.
Methoxetamine, or mexxy, will be made illegal for up to 12 months while the Government's drugs advisers decide whether it should be permanently controlled.
It follows concerns that two people whose bodies were found in Leicestershire in February may have taken some form of the drug after buying it over the internet.
Anyone caught making, supplying or importing the drug will face up to 14 years in prison and an unlimited fine under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, the Home Office said.
Police and border officials will also be allowed to search or detain anyone they suspect of having the drug and seize, keep or dispose of a substance they suspect is mexxy.
Crime Prevention Minister Lord Henley said: "Making this drug illegal sends a clear message to users and those making and supplying it that we are stepping up our fight against substances which are dangerous and ruin the lives of victims and their families.
"But making drugs illegal is only part of the solution.
"It is important for users of these harmful substances to understand that just because they are described as legal highs, it does not mean they are safe or should be seen as a 'safer' alternative to illegal substances."
Since the drug was referred to the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) earlier this month, the advisers have presented further evidence that its use can lead to "significant additional toxicity", including agitation, a faster heart rate and higher blood pressure, as well as unsteadiness on the feet.
Such symptoms are rarely seen with ketamine or other recreational drugs, the advisers said.
just found this
Methoxetamine, or mexxy, will be made illegal for up to 12 months while the Government's drugs advisers decide whether it should be permanently controlled.
It follows concerns that two people whose bodies were found in Leicestershire in February may have taken some form of the drug after buying it over the internet.
Anyone caught making, supplying or importing the drug will face up to 14 years in prison and an unlimited fine under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971, the Home Office said.
Police and border officials will also be allowed to search or detain anyone they suspect of having the drug and seize, keep or dispose of a substance they suspect is mexxy.
Crime Prevention Minister Lord Henley said: "Making this drug illegal sends a clear message to users and those making and supplying it that we are stepping up our fight against substances which are dangerous and ruin the lives of victims and their families.
"But making drugs illegal is only part of the solution.
"It is important for users of these harmful substances to understand that just because they are described as legal highs, it does not mean they are safe or should be seen as a 'safer' alternative to illegal substances."
Since the drug was referred to the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) earlier this month, the advisers have presented further evidence that its use can lead to "significant additional toxicity", including agitation, a faster heart rate and higher blood pressure, as well as unsteadiness on the feet.
Such symptoms are rarely seen with ketamine or other recreational drugs, the advisers said.
just found this
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Damn... with all the attention it's getting in the UK media, I don't think we have long over in the US. Time to stock up.
MyExcuse
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What? I think this ban may actually be a good thing for you Gymstud...
Also could they class MXE as it's own drug in the U.S. without it impacting the classification of Ketamine?
Also, what are these two suspect deaths that the article mentions? Edit: Found it http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-17007766
Sounds like a bad batch to me...
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What u mean
I think bluelight rocks but this site and others like it are pretty much entirely to blame. Methoxetamine is popular clearly seen by the 7 threaded whoppers here on bluelight. They seem to take what is presently most popular in the legal scene and then ban it. Fair on harm reduction and all, but maybe keep it subtle.
On another note
'The substance was referred to the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) earlier this month.
Its tests found evidence that use of methoxetamine can lead to "significant additional toxicity", including agitation, a faster heart rate and higher blood pressure, as well as unsteadiness on the feet.'
Thanks for doing the tests and letting us know. Now kindly stop getting in the way of my decision to ingest drugs
On another note
'The substance was referred to the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) earlier this month.
Its tests found evidence that use of methoxetamine can lead to "significant additional toxicity", including agitation, a faster heart rate and higher blood pressure, as well as unsteadiness on the feet.'
Thanks for doing the tests and letting us know. Now kindly stop getting in the way of my decision to ingest drugs