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Tripping without Cannabis

ParappaTheRapper

ParappaTheRapper

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Alright, i'll try another thread...I've been a long time smoker...many times daily for 7 or 8 years. Basically

constantly. In the last few months i've quit smoking, at least temporarily, cuz I really was starting to feel

burned out and like I was dependent on it. That being said, before, I could have never imagined tripping on

anything without smoking some weed, and usually I felt like I needed to smoke to smooth out trips and

make them enjoyable, especially on the come-up or tail-end.

Now that I've gotten used to not smoking, I am wondering what it will be like to start tripping again. I

guess what I'm asking is how it will be different and how I can learn to enjoy the experiences still in this

mindset. Any advice?
 
i find the visuals are more pronounced and that the trip is more clear headed in general. You can learn to enjoy the experience by appreciating the differences.
 
I prefer to go at least 12-24 hours without ingesting Cannabis before taking any psychedelics. I used to smoke on all my trips and at some point or another I would go somewhat psychotic on each and every trip. I find that without the Cannabis my trips are smoother, more relaxed and much more clear headed. I think this may have something to do with why I've used Cannabis all these years, its generally been a momentary escape or to hide from anything that had been bothering me (unless nothing was bothering me, in which case I smoked because I was bored). Psychedelics tend to unearth emotions in me, while I attempt to bury them with Cannabis. They are working against eachother in me, so I've stopped combining them to excellent effect.

That said, I had some pot cookies that I made myself recently and I felt like I was on a heavy shroom trip without the visuals lol.
 
I tripped my first few times without weed, one time because I couldn't smoke and another because the 8th of shrooms was blowing my mind so hard I just forgot to even smoke pot lol. So after having those first few trips where I didn't have pot I have really really enjoyed tripping with pot and pretty much everything with pot such as MDMA or Ketamine.
 
im in your boat OP, i was an all day everyday smoker for over 9 years

i recently got put on probation for mulitple MJ possesion charges, and i have completely quit smoking over the last few months

never before would i have dreamed of not smoking during a trip because smoking was my security thing, any time i felt the slightest bit 'off' i would just get high and its a comforting thing particularly when tripping, but since having quit i have tripped a couple times once on mushrooms and 2x on 4 aco dmt, all experiences were very pleasent and there was nothing worth mentioning about not smoking that affected anything, tho instead of sitting around smoking on the come up i just went for walk instead
 
RobotRipping said:
i find the visuals are more pronounced and that the trip is more clear headed in general. You can learn to enjoy the experience by appreciating the differences.
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This was exactly what I wanted to say. I think the OP will experience stronger mental clarity on the trips. Cannabis has also impacted the visuals negatively IME, making them less recognizable and less clear.
 
After reading through here I meditated on the issue more and came to the conclusion that other than just for fun with friends, on more introspective trips, I feel like I may have smoked to keep things euphoric, which maybe isn't the best idea as far as learning goes.

I can also see how future experiences will probably be cleaner and more clear-headed. Thanks for the input.
 
I think taking psychedelics played a part in my eventual decision to stop smoking cannabis in general. Like others have said, I find trips have more clarity without cannabis, and I used to find that smoking would often negatively affect my headspace when tripping - even when I was an all-day everyday smoker of several years. The come-up my seem a bit more awkward / scary when not already high, but I think from then on you will find things just as, if not more, enoyable than in the past.
 
I'm one of those weird people who absolutely hates cannabis during a trip. It makes my head clouded, my body uncomfortable and the trip becomes dark and full of negative thoughts.
 
MrDiamondFDC said:
Weed is our friend. It makes everything better.
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not true at all

^ you're not weird.

as an everyday smoker for years i was only too aware of the nagative impact cannabis had on my trips but i was so psychologically addicted i couldn't help myself even though it ruined many trips. there have abeen a few instances where high quality hash really made the trips amazing, but weed and skunk=bad times for me. the problem is a tiny amount of hash could be really nice but go even a little bid overboard and the potential for a shitty paranoid, discomfort laden worry fest was too much to risk. for some reason it seems to take away from the amazement of tripping.

with mdma towards the end weed can bring great euphoric hallucinations, but to early on and it can make the whole roll drift by in what feels like seconds which can disappoint you a bit
 
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I don't mind smoking on psychedelics, but when I do the feelings of a weed high seem short lived, and I can't really tell where the weed ends and normal tripping picks back up, I can appreciate the effects of weed much more when I'm not psy tripping. Smoking weed when you have mostly came down is the best, IMO, because for me it completely brings the trip back. So awesome.
Dissociatives on the other hand, I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to do, when I used to robotrip it brought everything up to the next level, and when I smoke weed on MXE I get cev's that look like I am on a psychedelic rather then a dissociative, its pretty sweet.
 
I love to smoke when I take LSD; but I don't like to smoke at all or combine THC when I take mushrooms since it just makes things very confusing and sometimes dark.
 
i think the reaction to the combo (or lack thereof) is quite personal, at least to the same extent that set and setting is. weed can make trips better or worse, but the exact effect is hard to predict. heck, even tabacco smoking can be nice some trips and horrible on others.

personally, i dont like weed that much in general, and it tends to make some trips more confusing. but some trips are meant to be like that...
best use ive found for weed is to enjoy an unexpecedly mild trip
 
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