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Just weighed out a dose with my new scale; very concerned with the volume of MDMA

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Chesh said:
mate, read the rest of the discussion.

we don't get ripped off, it's just the weight you get for a set price fluctuates instead of the price you pay for a set weight fluctuating.
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But then , why you say "give me a gramm" and not "give me for XX $"?


Even if you know a "gram" is not a gram, it's manipulating...


(subconscious part=) In the first place, your mind gets the information "1g" for XX$" So it initial feels like you get 1g, because in normal day to day life 1g is always 1g...

(conscious part=) it's only AFTER you rationalize the deal you come to the conclusion "1 g = 0,8g".


It's a marketing strategy which manipulate the subconscious...
 
in my dealings i go on weight, or price. if i'm buying £20 worth of whatever, it depends on who im buying it from whether it is x weight for x price, or x price for what amount the dealer decides, but i try not to mix up the two. if that makes sense. so i don't go round saying i want an eighth if its only 2.8g, i say i want x price amount.
 
FluoTox said:
But then , why you say "give me a gramm" and not "give me for XX $"?


Even if you know a "gram" is not a gram, it's manipulating...


(subconscious part=) In the first place, your mind gets the information "1g" for XX$" So it initial feels like you get 1g, because in normal day to day life 1g is always 1g...

(conscious part=) it's only AFTER you rationalize the deal you come to the conclusion "1 g = 0,8g".


It's a marketing strategy which manipulate the subconscious...
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'gram' is essentially slang around here. just like an 'eighth' of weed is (although i say 20 bit instead of eighth)

and you always ask how much it weighs up at before you buy, so there's no subconscious trickery going on.
 
Chesh said:
'gram' is essentially slang around here. just like an 'eighth' of weed is (although i say 20 bit instead of eighth)

and you always ask how much it weighs up at before you buy, so there's no subconscious trickery going on.
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Gram is a unit of measurement based on the decimal system. 1000mg = 1g.

Cut and dry. Slang has nothing to do with it. Stop buying drugs off the street would be my suggestion, or learn to live with the guessing game of sampling the black markets wares.

Or buy a test kit. That would be wise.
 
Chesh said:
'gram' is essentially slang around here. just like an 'eighth' of weed is (although i say 20 bit instead of eighth)

and you always ask how much it weighs up at before you buy, so there's no subconscious trickery going on.
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Do you have experience with marketing strategies? Even with food they do it sometimes..

A pack of Chips (for example) weights 250g for 4$.... instead of going up with the price they just put 225g into one pack but with the same price as before.
It's more likely that people would still buy them, even if the know that they get minus 25g, because they are used to GIVE 4 $ and get a certain amount....

What you have to give/pay is more important for decision making than what you get.

If the amount you have to pay go up, you will more likely over think before making the decision.

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Do you have a buddy with a 0,001 scale? you could weight the same amount on both scales and see if there is any difference..
 
I hate it when takaways do short porions too
I usually vote with my feet but today for Instance they get both barrols
And yet again only paid half price for my meal
 
Thou said:
Gram is a unit of measurement based on the decimal system. 1000mg = 1g.

Cut and dry. Slang has nothing to do with it. Stop buying drugs off the street would be my suggestion, or learn to live with the guessing game of sampling the black markets wares.

Or buy a test kit. That would be wise.
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Mate, I know how much a gram is. We use the metric system here more than you do in the US as far as I know.

Slang has everything to do with it. How would you know what the slang in my part of the UK is like? If you ask for a gram of MDMA you are asking for £XX worth of MDMA, which atm is around 0.8g. If you ask for a true gram of MDMA you are asking for 1g which will cost slightly more.

Why are you telling me to buy a test kit? Have you read the rest of this little discussion, I think I already mentioned that I only ever buy rocks and I always test them with Marquis. No powders, no pre-crushed crystal, no untested mandy.

FluoTox said:
Do you have experience with marketing strategies? Even with food they do it sometimes..

A pack of Chips (for example) weights 250g for 4$.... instead of going up with the price they just put 225g into one pack but with the same price as before.
It's more likely that people would still buy them, even if the know that they get minus 25g, because they are used to GIVE 4 $ and get a certain amount....

What you have to give/pay is more important for decision making than what you get.

If the amount you have to pay go up, you will more likely over think before making the decision.
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Yeah that's what I meant by the price fluctuating instead of the wait.

People are happy to pay £XX for 0.8g, but £YY seems like a lot more even if you get 0.2g more.

I choose to buy 0.8g instead of 0.2g because I don't want to spend an extra tenner really.
 
ryan_inthem00n said:
Hahaha right?

I understand what theyre saying, though. The norm there is light sacks. But its uncertain if what he seems to be claiming is true, that youre getting purer product uncut rather than a full weight sack cut with additives for weight. Chances are theyre just getting light sacks because of supply and demand. Less supply makes the UK a seller's market which means the dealer makes the rules. Im not sure I'd had the guts to weigh out a baggy in front a dealer after purchasing it.
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I get 7g of quality MDMA for essentially half price. MDMA is flooded in the UK market mate, and its all top quality. But smaller dealers selling gram bags/wraps can make an extra x quid every 5 grams they sell by doing 0.8s. They don't need to cut it, everybodys happy.
 
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Why are we even listening to what Americans think about our MDMA market? I've never had a bit that didnt blow my mind, and all I hear from people in the US is bitching about shit gear.
 
Calm down there Stutter ;)

What us Yanks are saying, is that if you buy a "gram" and its only .8, it can no longer be considered a gram by anybody. Like I said before, if I bought a gram and got anything less than 1000mgs for it, I would be pissed.

A gram is a set amount, 1000mgs = 1g = .0001 kg = 1,000,000 micrograms....



if your not buying a gram, why call it that? At that point, its not a gram... we're getting awfully specific with the prices though, cant we all just agree to disagree?!? :)
 
It's just street talk. Street talk evolves to what it is even if it doesn't make sense.

But yeah Strutter is right our mandy is the dog's bollocks I can tell you that :D
 
Folley said:
Calm down there Stutter ;)

What us Yanks are saying, is that if you buy a "gram" and its only .8, it can no longer be considered a gram by anybody. Like I said before, if I bought a gram and got anything less than 1000mgs for it, I would be pissed.

A gram is a set amount, 1000mgs = 1g = .0001 kg = 1,000,000 micrograms....



if your not buying a gram, why call it that? At that point, its not a gram... we're getting awfully specific with the prices though, cant we all just agree to disagree?!? :)
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The US is not the UK. Why are people from the US telling us about our own market? We know what is acceptable. I'd rather 0.8 of moonrocks that 1g of sugar. A gram is 'slang' for what you can get for the standard xx price here, same with an eigth of weed which is 20-25 quid, but may be anywhere between 1.8-3.5gs. Thats how it is, and has been for a while.
 
But its not a gram then. Thats just the simple fact of life lol, if its not 1g, its not a gram. You may rather have .8 than a gram, but its still not a gram.

In the US, if I pay for an eighth of weed, I better get my 3.5. If I pay for a gram, I expect a gram. I dont want .8, Ill pay the extra 10 or 20 for the gram I asked for



Think about the medical dispensaries here in the US, when the quality of the weed goes up, so does the price. A gram of the best weed is a good 30% more expensive than the other normal stuff, but the weight stays the same.
 
Folley said:
But its not a gram then. Thats just the simple fact of life lol, if its not 1g, its not a gram. You may rather have .8 than a gram, but its still not a gram.

In the US, if I pay for an eighth of weed, I better get my 3.5. If I pay for a gram, I expect a gram. I dont want .8, Ill pay the extra 10 or 20 for the gram I asked for
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That is not how any drugs are done here. People pay xx quid a gram for MD, xx quid for an eigth of weed, and xx quid for shit coke. Thats how it is. If you want 1.3, buy 1.5, thats how its always been. Maybe because we are an island. Dealers need to make profits, and the profit margins are already small. We managed to cut out all the shit MDMA we get here, and if it means we get 0.8gs as a 1g for xx, thats fine. You lot carry on buying shit.
 
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I wouldn't be dealing. I'd just like to know the difference between prices in the UK and US.
 
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