I thought that the cod would have been cheaper than it was. The only fish that I catch consistently is flounder, which as others said is better for just breading and frying instead of battering. I usually cook the flounder in foil with peppers, carrots, zucchini, squash, and onions, and seasoning with butter, lemon, salt, pepper, and a bit of hot sauce.
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Mailmonkey
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hahaha,I usually cook flounder in paper parcels with white wine, olive oil, butter, lemon and fennel, and serve it with griddled courgettes (zucchini). Flounder season just coming to an end round here, but that means the bass will be coming up inshore and into the estuaries soon, March time is always when I get me first bass of the year....
arrive low tide to dig worms, catch sandeels for bait
relax and have a beer and spliff and wait for the tide
high tide, bass time!
first bass 2009, just legal at 41cm
parttime crackhead
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hahaha,I usually cook flounder in paper parcels with white wine, olive oil, butter, lemon and fennel, and serve it with griddled courgettes (zucchini). Flounder season just coming to an end round here, but that means the bass will be coming up inshore and into the estuaries soon, March time is always when I get me first bass of the year....
arrive low tide to dig worms, catch sandeels for bait
relax and have a beer and spliff and wait for the tide
high tide, bass time!
first bass 2009, just legal at 41cm
Around here we have "winter flounder" and that season is from April 1st until May I think, and then the "summer flounder" aka fluke season starts. They look the same, but the summer flounder is bigger. Our bass look a little different than the one in your pic. We have striped bass.
badandwicked
Bluelighter
Bravo Tommyboy.
MM seems to have a ridiculously good quality of life.
MM seems to have a ridiculously good quality of life.
mattnotrik
Bluelighter
Just about to say, you have such a better quality of life lol STOP IT
Mailmonkey
Bluelighter
Hmmmm, fluke is a name we use for flounder, but it's just a nickname, they are the same fish, we fish for flounder from Nov- Jan really, they are about down here in summer, but not in numbers, and there are more attractive fish to go for in summer too, I think the further north you go in UK, the more flounder sticka round through the summer.
Not much else gets a look in in summer down here, the bass just go on the rampage, hahahaha
Mailmonkey
Bluelighter
It is quite meaty, lovely, semi oily, but big white flakes too, one of the best fish, unless it's one of those portion sized farmed bass you get at supermarkets, they all intensively farmed in greece mainly, to meet our demand for tiny portion sized fish for the plate...they very young, and little texture..
Find a fishmonger sells proper UK wild bass, any bass less than 37cm won't be UK wild, as it's illegal to take them, that's a 7 year old fish and they don't spawn till then, but a nice 37-40cm bass will feed two people handsomely....won't be fckin cheap though...the two i'm holding in that picture above weighed between 7 and 8 lbs each, would cost at least 70 quid each in a fishmonger....a 2lber to feed you and your man will cost you about 15-20quid , so a meal for special occasions.
Might even be a lot pricier up your way, bass are a lot harder to find in your colder waters.
I'll Special Delivery you a couple of chilled fillets in the summer when I get me first decent one
Find a fishmonger sells proper UK wild bass, any bass less than 37cm won't be UK wild, as it's illegal to take them, that's a 7 year old fish and they don't spawn till then, but a nice 37-40cm bass will feed two people handsomely....won't be fckin cheap though...the two i'm holding in that picture above weighed between 7 and 8 lbs each, would cost at least 70 quid each in a fishmonger....a 2lber to feed you and your man will cost you about 15-20quid , so a meal for special occasions.
Might even be a lot pricier up your way, bass are a lot harder to find in your colder waters.
I'll Special Delivery you a couple of chilled fillets in the summer when I get me first decent one
I'll Special Delivery you a couple of chilled fillets in the summer when I get me first decent one
Hey no sourcin' n' fish dealing you lol :
That all got a bit technical for me, remember I'm the wife in the kitchen
but yeh I'm sure we've done that fish and liked him lol.Us Brits are funny about the fish we eat aren't we - we're on an island and have so much choice but we have very restricted tastes of what is and isn't acceptable or palatable to eat. No wonder we have fishing quota regulations...n' all that kinda legislation. Talk about drugs = hey lets talk fish!
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Mailmonkey
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Try not to buy farmed fish. Not only are they shit, they are very bad for the marine environment, and they use airmiles shipping them in from Greece.
Better still, get fishing....you can catch some huge pollack within 50 yards of the rocks up on that West Coast, much bigger than we get off the shore down here (not as big as the buggers we pul up on the boat though
)I love talkin about fish, almost as much as allotments, or cooking, or, errr, droogz...
ponch
Bluelighter
Fresh dorada cooked on a BBQ is the best fish i've ever had. Never seen it over here. Although to be fair I don't spend my free time scouring fishmongers for it :D
Mailmonkey
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Gilthead bream, or black bream (which is very similar), both plentiful off our shores.
Again, plenty of farmed giltheads in supermarkets and fishmongers, again intensively farmed in Greece/Cyprus.
felix
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i'm kinda uneducated about this, so please enlighten me.
fish farming is obviously a big thing in the west of scotland. it keeps quite a lot of people in employment, and it helps to stop fish like salmon & trout from dying out, or being overfished, etc.
it means that us normals can buy fresh scottish salmon from our local fishmongers or big supermarkets at a good price.
I seem to remember something about there being a risk that farmed fish can catch diseases, which can maybe leak out to the wild environment? is that right?
what else is bad about the concept of fish farming? i'm interested.
^ Water pollution is a big issue. A lot of the food ends up in the water by it either not being eatern, or by excretion after being unable to be broken down by the fish that consumes it. The water runoff from these fish farms will change the chemistry of the water, which will have negative effects on the ecosystem. Such negative effects include contamination of the groundwater, killing of certain plants, thus interupting the natural habitat which may result in the death or displacement of the local natural wildlife. Also some of the water that is emptied into natural lakes may change the temperature of the lake, and can result in algae blooms and the death of fish that cannot survive in the new temperature.
*This is from what I saw at a freshwater trout and salmon farm. Not all of this applies to ocean fish farming.
*This is from what I saw at a freshwater trout and salmon farm. Not all of this applies to ocean fish farming.
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Mailmonkey
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Yeah exact;y what Tommyboy says on the pollution and disease front.
Also a number of the farmed salmon/trout escape, breed witht the wild population, again, lowering immunity etc.
In the case of bass/bream/mullet and other intensively farmed sea fish, another problem is the feed. To "grow" 1kg of farmed fish, it takes 10kg of wild fish....the farmed fish are fed on fish meal, usually made from sandeels, other small fry fish...massive indstrial container ships arond the world scoop out TONNES AND TONNES of these fish on a constant basis, just to turn into fish meal for feeding farmed fish.
Because sandeel are, or were, seen as a bottomless pit there is no quota system in place for them.
Sandeel are not only the main diet of many fish species (bass for one), but also bird species like puffin, already puffin populations are in decline, as their main source of food is being decimated so fast.
All of this has a knock on effect, the way we treat our marine resources around the world is shocking.
Next time you have your bit of farmed fish, yeah, it's cheap, yeah, you probably couldn't afford the wild variety, but you'd be beter off waiting till you could afford the wild variety (or better still catch them yourself)...the taste will be better, and you won't have been contributing to polluting the marine environment, polluting the air, and upsetting the balance of nature...
EDIT>>>>either eat a more sustainable fish, or wait till you can affoord the wild variety, treat yorself, and you'l see why trout, salmon and bass were once seen as fish for special occasions...they shouldn't be something we eat on a weekly/daily basis...
for every 1 kilo of farmed fish, 10 kilos of baitfish have been scooped out of the sea.
Also a number of the farmed salmon/trout escape, breed witht the wild population, again, lowering immunity etc.
In the case of bass/bream/mullet and other intensively farmed sea fish, another problem is the feed. To "grow" 1kg of farmed fish, it takes 10kg of wild fish....the farmed fish are fed on fish meal, usually made from sandeels, other small fry fish...massive indstrial container ships arond the world scoop out TONNES AND TONNES of these fish on a constant basis, just to turn into fish meal for feeding farmed fish.
Because sandeel are, or were, seen as a bottomless pit there is no quota system in place for them.
Sandeel are not only the main diet of many fish species (bass for one), but also bird species like puffin, already puffin populations are in decline, as their main source of food is being decimated so fast.
All of this has a knock on effect, the way we treat our marine resources around the world is shocking.
Next time you have your bit of farmed fish, yeah, it's cheap, yeah, you probably couldn't afford the wild variety, but you'd be beter off waiting till you could afford the wild variety (or better still catch them yourself)...the taste will be better, and you won't have been contributing to polluting the marine environment, polluting the air, and upsetting the balance of nature...
EDIT>>>>either eat a more sustainable fish, or wait till you can affoord the wild variety, treat yorself, and you'l see why trout, salmon and bass were once seen as fish for special occasions...they shouldn't be something we eat on a weekly/daily basis...
for every 1 kilo of farmed fish, 10 kilos of baitfish have been scooped out of the sea.
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felix
Bluelight Crew
thanks for the explanations. after reading up a bit today (too lazy last night ) I can see it was 'sea lice' I was thinking about.
do you know off the top of your head how much it would roughly cost for a wild salmon, compared to a farmed one of the same size?
(the buying of fish in this household is delegated to the boss, so I have no idea!)
fish are great - to look at, and to eat! are you gonna do it again, Tommy?
) I can see it was 'sea lice' I was thinking about.do you know off the top of your head how much it would roughly cost for a wild salmon, compared to a farmed one of the same size?
(the buying of fish in this household is delegated to the boss, so I have no idea!)
fish are great - to look at, and to eat! are you gonna do it again, Tommy?
Mailmonkey
Bluelighter
You must know someone up there who fishes felix, that'd be your best bet...ask around, can you barter anything?
If not, get someone who fishes to take you or the boss along some time...get a license, and go for it, or no need for a license if you not game fishing, just fishing the sea for bass, pollack etc needs no license.
I dunno about the prices for salmon, i rarely eat it, eat sea trout sometimes, a friend sometimes catches them, but again, don't know the price, just the going rate for barter
If not, get someone who fishes to take you or the boss along some time...get a license, and go for it, or no need for a license if you not game fishing, just fishing the sea for bass, pollack etc needs no license.
I dunno about the prices for salmon, i rarely eat it, eat sea trout sometimes, a friend sometimes catches them, but again, don't know the price, just the going rate for barter
If I do it will probably be with either a cheaper alternative, or with something I catch. I don't think the fish I catch would be good for it though.
I've never had a problem feeding the whole family with striped bass. By me they are very common, and I can also catch them from the surf so I don't need to take the boat out. I have a surf casting rod which is a little over 3 meters, so I can cast out far enough from the beach to be in deeper water where the fish are feeding. Below is a picture of one that isn't even that big, and the minimum size limit is 71cm which usually isn't a problem as long as you are fishing in the right places.
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This is how we do surf fishing by me. They are fishing on Montauk Point, dubbed "the surf casting capital of the world" but they are a little more hardcore than me since I prefer to stay closer to the beach and not out on those little rocks. That's also a very good example of the annoying accent in my area. They are fishing using surface poppers, but with the Long Island accent the er is replaced with an a, so popper=popa, and ers is replaced with iz, so poppers=poppiz.