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lsd and mescaline

I have no personal experience but my general opinion on combining classical psychedelics is that it is redundant: they provide such a full experience that it would be more of a mix-up than that there would be place for synergy. Some accounts confirm this, other accounts do say that it provides something extra. I have tried mescaline only once but I expected more psychedelia compared to how much entactogenic MDMA-like effects I got (much much more natural feeling though) so I must admit: it could up the ante on visuals and other trippy expects to combine with acid.
Acid with mushrooms though... I am not interested in. I think separate they are so rich that I wouldn't want that, they have their own character and while I see the point in combining with other drugs like K or weed or MDMA etc, I would not want 2 stories to run parallel and not mesh together. And I have had trips where 2 different types of psychedelic action opposed one another and it was seriously counterproductive.
 
I agree with Solipsis on many points. I think if you do want to combine classical psychedlics, you musn't take them at the same time. The combined peaks of two psychedelic drugs is really intense, and the possibility of just not being able to handle it or shit getting too intense increase significantly. Waiting for one drug to run it's course and then adding another after the peak is a method that I've had some success with when combining psychedleics.

Once though, I took LSD and mushrooms at the same time at a festival, along with 3 friends, and we all had a difficult trip. Too much was going on, and it did indeed feel like very different energies were colliding inside me.

On the other hand, adding 4-aco-DMT to various psychedelics always turns out to be a good time for me. And although 4-aco-DMT is an RC, it feels classically psychedelic. I always take the 4-aco-DMT after the peak of drug number 1 is passed or mostly passed, and never dose the two drugs at the same time. Ever. That just doesn't sound like a good time to me. I don't even like coming up on MDMA and another drug at the same time. It's too much.
 
Yes, LSD and mescaline is a great combo. I've always found taking any tryptamine after LSD a waste of time (I barely felt mushrooms or oral DMT) but mescaline and MDMA work great. But you need the mescaline in powder form from an A/B extraction of cactus. Trying to choke down half a pint of cactus snot while you're tripping on acid will be about as much fun as being waterboarded.
 
I did a low dose of mescaline hcl with a strong blotter (~150-200ug) on one occasion and was blown away!
Generally I feel combinations muddle the insights from both teachers, but a low low dose of mescaline, I think ~75-150mg (I weighed it at the time) ut a powerful catalytic element into the experience. Very spiritual night...intense, but totally manageable. Lol, a local police officer I'm acquaintances with pulled up and started talking to us about how corrupt the govt is and how we need to bring revolution with our generation lol....talk about awkward synchronicity! Haha, it was wholesome though to break that boundary with an officer and hear what e really had to say about the system.
 
It's a nice combo. Combined this a few times.

I would suggest taking the mescaline first, then the Lucy, that way you avoid nausea issues.

It should not be overwhelming, mescaline is a nice smooth launching pad into however much L you feel like taking.


Is it better than taking just more L or just more mescaline? I don't know. But I know it doesn't hurt and it might give you something a little different. The drugs blend very well together.
 
Ive never tried mescaline,

but Ive always found LSD + mushrooms to be an amazing combo. The shrooms add a distortion to the acid, and the L really complete shrooms visuals

I bet mescaline and LSD would be even more fun, but yeah I would do an extraction. Trying to eat shrooms when your tripping balls is no easy challenge, cactus would be 10 times harder
 
Last time I did it was 300mg Mescaline HCl + around 100ug of LSD a few hours later. I didn't even notice the transition. 300mg Mescaline is roughly equal to 100ug LSD for me in terms of visual effects.. mentally not so different either.

This was at a festival years ago so maybe that's why I didn't really notice the transitiion or much difference between the drugs.

I've had San Pedro cactus several times and it has much more "character" than Mescaline HCl.
 
I have always wanted to try this combo. Thank you for the imput at the very least the general opinion is mescaline first then acid, what if one wanted to toss some MDMA, weed, nitrous and ketamine into it? Sounds dangerous but I wanna do it lol. Hopefully someday I'll be able to write a report on that one!
 
bluedolphin said:
I've had San Pedro cactus several times and it has much more "character" than Mescaline HCl.
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What do you mean by mescaline HCL? Is this the fabled "synthetic mescaline"? Any extract from cactus is going to contain all the alkaloids in the cactus in addition to the mescaline.
 
sockpuppet said:
I don't believe this is correct - certainly not in anything like the proportions found in the cactus itself.
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Trouts notes says every extraction will contain all the alkaloids in the cactus, not just the mescaline.

Mescaline has by far the biggest alkaloid content in san pedro/torch cactus orginally.
 
sockpuppet said:
No way to clean it up huh?
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Clean up the other alkaloids from mescaline? How would you do that exactly? Come on, you're the one claiming everyone who'se ever done this is wrong so let us know your big idea 8)
 
Ismene said:
What do you mean by mescaline HCL? Is this the fabled "synthetic mescaline"?
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If you look up mescaline on Wikipedia or wherever it is a primary amine, which if you were to actually isolate would appear most likely as a oil or a goo. Once treated with hydrochloric acid, mescaline HCl is formed, which is much easier to handle because it is a crystalline solid. The synthetic mescaline is still mescaline HCl, it is just made in a lab instead of extracted from a cactus.


Ismene said:
Any extract from cactus is going to contain all the alkaloids in the cactus in addition to the mescaline.
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I believe this is correct, as any unpurified extract from cactus will contain all of the alkaloids.


sockpuppet said:
The extracted mescaline here is generally crystalline and experienced folks tend to consider it 95%+ mescaline -whether hcl or sulphate (which appears even purer than the hcl due to the beautiful long needle crystals).
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This is true as well, but I think the 95%+ refers to the mescaline HCl after it is purified. For instance, when doing an extraction, after all the solvent has evaporated I am left with mescaline HCl plus all of the alkaloids (unpurified mescaline HCl). I then wash the extract with acetone and isopropanol a few times, the goop I had earlier is now crystalline, and I have purified extracted mescaline HCl, and the alkaloids have been separated.

Hopefully this cleared some stuff up but this thread is on LSD + mesc, so this mesc HCl discussion might go better in the Big and Dandy mesc thread.
 
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