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Heroin Casual use / experimenting. Small amounts, insufflation.

SherlockStones

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Hello all,


Starting notes %)

Use is always taken as match head bumps 1 at a time in 10 minute intervals

I gets very white dope from a well known 'pure' drug corner in Phladelphia, likely from middle east or mexico

I does not plan to break his precautionary dosage/time-frame rule

has read up alot and knows the dangers of the drug and feels pretty educated about it.

feels the largest danger is not addiction but being in the neighborhoods we goes to get dope.



has long been mesmorised by the powers of drugs and often experiment with soft drugs as a light age and always enjoyed opiate feeling. However, we has always had a moral dislike for the drug as it has caused much discomfort to him and those around him because of others' addiction , therefore swim never touched it.

IM living in pihladelphia knows where to score at any time and for a cheap price, and great quality. 2 weeks ago swim bought 1 bag for the reg price 10USD and snorted the whole bag over a 6 hour period (very small match-head bumps as the bag was not a large dose). I recently tried the drug again buying 1 bag and snorting just 1 or 2 match head bumps leaving a large portion left in the bag.


The point

does not use the drug like most people and probably never will. 1 or 2 matchhead bumps is enough to feel the opiate for a few hours. Me understands that addiction is a huge posibility and most people start off with such use.

was generally not impressed by the small amounts but felt it was sufficient for relaxation.

will never score and use again until the dope has completely left his system as a means to beat the toelrance, HOWEVER I never promises me time frames of when it is OK to score.

is not all that concerned with scoring as the dope is an unimportant pleasure to SWIM by means of relaxation before bed or on a lazy day.

has a good job, and is finishing university, and responsible to friends and family and does not feel any drug or alcohol use has ever gotten in my way.


The question:?

By using only after the heroin has left My body (3-5 days?) does this eliminate a tolerance buildup?

If small doses are continued will this minimilize addiction/depedency?

What is the chance of overdose with such small doses match-box dosages taken 1 at a time in 10 minute intervals ? (I gets very white dope from a well known 'pure' drug corner)

( does not plan to break his precautionary dosage/time-frame rule)


Is casual use possible in this day in age? (I understands it is very rare, but has read many historical/ancient books about casual use as well as addiction)

What are some moral issues with the drug use, I often feels guilty only on an ethical basis.

What are the dangerous agents dope is cut with. I is concerned about the cleanliness of the junkie infested neighborhood he scores from. (Im s fairly certain the dealers are not drug users but semi-professional corner-boys)



***I hope this post has not gotten into the wrong section, and has not violated any rules. If it has please kindly transfer to the correct section.

Thank you <3
 
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First, we don't use SWIM here. Using SWIM makes your post hard to read, among other things, and you're not really protecting yourself by using it. You might want to go back through and edit your post using "I", making it easier to follow.


SWIM does not use the drug like most people and probably never will.

Mmhmm.

SWIM has a good job, and is finishing university, and responsible to friends and family and does not feel any drug or alcohol use has ever gotten in swihis way.

Yet.

(SWIM does not plan to break his precautionary dosage/time-frame rule)

I don't know anyone who has planned to break their rules. We start by "modifying" our rules, and justifying our reasons to do so, i.e., vacations, birthdays, anniversaries, promotions, boredom.....you get the idea.

What are some moral issues with the drug use, SWIM often feels guilty on an ethical basis.

I think you already know the answer to that....you are here posting - so obviously you've put some thought into it.

Whatever you decide to do....be careful and stay safe. And good luck with your rules.
 
I just wanted to point out and agree with this statement
I don't know anyone who has planned to break their rules. We start by "modifying" our rules, and justifying our reasons to do so, i.e., vacations, birthdays, anniversaries, promotions, boredom.....you get the idea.
 
I would like to discuss the possibility of addiction / overdose using small Match head amounts every ten minutes and the possibility of keeping tolerance and overdose low by not using until the drug has exited My system, hence te name of the thread.

Another point is I doss not use any other drug besides marijuana

Also point I do not overly enjoy heroin and is rather unimpressed / doesn't see the big deal because of the small dosages and would like to continue not being impressed by dope

I has tried to defer from making promises to me about use to avoid the pedestal effect

****I appreciate everyones input and effort to my questions, but please observe the questions / main point of the thread if possible,
 
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Please edit your posts and remove the "SWIM". It is against the rules here. We all know its you and all it does it makes your posts hard to read. A lot of Bluelighters simply ignore posts with "SWIM" in them.
 
Sherlock likes the quote "many of our decisions do not stem from what we are capable of doing but rather stem from the expectation of what others see us doing" in short please don't set Me to fail without considering the possibility of Me to be able to stick to such casual use even if this is VERY unlikely RISKY and dangerous

I appreciate all your efforts and input

Edited for correctness, your responses are appreciated in advance
 
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If you're so unimpressed by heroin, why are you trying to justify continuing to use of it? Your post basically says "I feel like I'm immune to addiction because I will have guidelines to my use and it's so unimportant/unimpressive". I think you're going to use it again regardless of the cautions you get here regarding addiction - chipping is possible, but I think that in order to do it succesfully you're going to have to be a lot more disciplined than only waiting 3-5 days in between using.
 
It's very easy to chip, but easier to get addicted.

I think until we all start thinking of it this way, you won't see how really easy it is to get addicted. It's even easier than chipping. Chipping takes a lot of self control/will power.
 
I am extremely impressed by the drugs destructive effects, hence the inquiry and research. However with such small dosage I don't see what's so special about the high, to me it's like popping a percocet but cheaper and less needed. I understand that the high gets better as tolerance rises.

I do not plan. On using every 3-5 days and would consider such use a problem. I am simply interested if this method would deter a tolerance buildup
 
Could a moderator please close this thread. I am going to start a new more objective thread with correct wording
 
I am extremely impressed by the drugs destructive effects, hence the inquiry and research. However with such small dosage I don't see what's so special about the high, to me it's like popping a percocet but cheaper and less needed. I understand that the high gets better as tolerance rises.

I do not plan. On using every 3-5 days and would consider such use a problem. I am simply interested if this method would deter a tolerance buildup

Until you snort a serious line, or IV heroin (PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS!!!) you really won't know why a lot of people are unfortunately severely addicted to heroin.

If you think of heroin as a cheaper way to get a percocet type high, GOOD FOR YOU. I am honestly pleased to hear that from a heroin user. Be RESPONSIBLE with it!!!
 
Yes this Is all I intend in my usage, but I do not want to get physically or mentally addicted an end up IVing/bumping a whole bag. Do u think this small dosage use is probable/more safe? Maybe it is better to just buy percocet and stay away from the dangers of this drug.
 
Yes this Is all I intend in my usage, but I do not want to get physically or mentally addicted an end up IVing/bumping a whole bag. Do u think this small dosage use is probable/more safe? Maybe it is better to just buy percocet and stay away from the dangers of this drug.

If I could go back in time.... I couldn't tell you what I'd do.


If you enjoy oxy, give that a go. :) You don't really need heroin.
 
Also point I do not overly enjoy heroin and is rather unimpressed / doesn't see the big deal because of the small dosages and would like to continue not being impressed by dope

Ah I see. Well if you 'dont enjoy heroin and are rather unimpressed" stop doing it. Simple as that! Normal people do not subject themselves to things that they dont enjoy, thats just silly!

See where I'm going with this? ;)

Thats kinda like me saying "Well, I smash my testicles with a hammer. I'm rather unimpressed with the results, and dont 'enjoy' it, but I am going to continue to do so on a somewhat regular basis, so that I can continue to be unimpressed by the results of my crushed testicles."

The fact that you're already so contradictory regarding your use as well as continue to use despite saying you "dont like it" just shows to me that your brain is already tricking you into doing more and more heroin because it really likes heroin (whos brain wouldn't?) and is managing to successfully trick ya by creating justifications and logic, which is totally illogical (once again, people dont continue to do things they dont enjoy).
 
Sorry for the annoying language. I requested before the thread be closed due to improper formatting and because I wanted to start a new, more subjective thread. If u failed to recognize this point and reply to this thread anyways it is your own self torture that you are annoyed by my post.

Thank you for your responses i found them engaging an helpful, besides your ridiculous and Lude metaphor of snaking your testicles.


Do not get me wrong I enjoy the opiate feeling very much but because I do such small doses I do not see the big fuss is all about.


Btw English is not my first language thank u very much
 
Thank you for all the responses can a mod ease close this thread it has become irrelevant an I think it is not pleasant for anyone
 
Lmao buddy once you experience the depths of opiate addiction you will see that my metaphor was not so crazy after all. Doing opiates is kind of like smashing your testicles with a hammer: people are into the pleasure of hurting themselves, amongst reasons why its a very fitting metaphor. But, metaphor aside, the rest of my post was totally and completely valid.

Now youre saying you DO ENJOY OPIATES VERY MUCH! But i thought you didnt enjoy heroin that much and were unimpressed by it.

See how crazy this drug is? Its already got you flip flopping just so you can justify it to yourself. The fact that this has not thrown a red flag for you is crazy, but whatever man. I made a very helpful post in your other thread.
 
I've been chipping since October, currently on my 6th month and it's going good. Now i've spent years of my life addicted, not many, but 2 in severe active addiction, IV.

If you wanna chip, the 3-5 day thing ain't gonna work. Your gonna end up a junkie. The trick is to put your time into other things in your life, and have opiates take a back seat. You can't have any set rules, the only rule is the use must be far apart. The reason I don't have any rules is because if I break them, I don't want to feel like I fucked up. I try to keep my using to 1x a month, but I used yesterday and the day before that. Today I feel fine, no withdraw, and I know i'm not going to use again until April.

basically you need more that 3-5 days between your use if you want to avoid addiction, like people said you will justify using the next day, and the day after, and before you know it your a fuckin junkie.
 
meh, back in the chipping days I would MUCH prefer binging once in a while as to doing small amounts more frequently

[woot 400 posts woot! :)]
 
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