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I love MDA, but I dont care for MDMA.

StickyChron

StickyChron

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Which is highly unfortunate, MDA seems to be much harder to come by. Can someone explain why more people don't make MDA, I mean besides the supply/demand factor? Is the production harder than MDMA? Do most people dislike the effects of this compound? I see a lot of people say it feels like dark MDMA, or dirtier somehow, is this the general consesus?
 
I've never been offered MDA, how do the effects differ from MDMA? Because MDMA is by far my drug of choice.

When it comes to production, their structures are very similar, MDMA being a secondary amine of MDA. If being synthesised totally I'd say MDA is probably the easier chemical to make.

Also, there is a possibility that MDMA can be made into MDA but you're going to need a reagent which will remove the methyl group, which is not a very good leaving group, and you may damage the rest of the structure in the process. If I think of anything in labs tomorrow I'll let you know, but it's currently 4 am and my brain's a bit frazzled
 
Well in one route of synthesization, to make MDMA you actually have to make MDA first. Thats why some MDA is really brown, there are a lot of impurities left over because they didnt take that last step to add the methyl and purify it in the process. That could be why some people feel its dirtier

MDA is so much more amazing IMO though, the empathy is still there forsure, and your tripping at the same time!
 
I haven't got experience with MDMA (yet :D ), but
I read it's kind of tripping, many people don't enjoy tripping/can't handle it. There's a lot less money to make in the tripping business than the other more addictive stuff.
 
I don't know many people who have referred to MDA as dirty MDMA? Most people I know really enjoy both compounds for different reasons. I'm sure that if there was a lot of it going around then more people would get to enjoy it.
 
i think most people just dont know about it.

i've got some atm, about 2 more nights worth out of it. i enjoy it but i dont feel as much love/empathy (there's still some) which is my favourite part about MDMA. tripping is pretty funny though, last time i kept seeing stairs and i'd go to walk up them but then they'd disappear and i'd realise there were no stairs.

nice to have something different but i look forward to getting mdma again.
 
I miss MDA. We used to always have really strong MDA pills available here in the NE but it seems like that doesn’t happen anymore /cry
 
Around my area a few years back there were these delicious pressed pills that were light tan, super thin but way bigger around than a thizzle and tasted like straight sassafras. One and you would be rolling and slightly tripped out with lots of vibrations and color enhancement, two and it was like candy flipping. Amazing stuff, miss the good sass.

Also, question: I don't want to get into synthesis discussion, but if MDA is basically a precursor to MDMA, and its IMO a wholly superior substance, why is it so fucking rare? It seems like most people I know with even a basic knowledge of ecstasy, are aware of the existance of MDA, but like others said most haven't had a chance to try it. Why is this, and how can we change it? Haha
 
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Haven't had a chance to try MDA yet as it seems to be more neurotoxic than MDMA (and I put the latter on a tight leash) I'll probably give it a go in the near future.

StickyChron said:
Also, question: I don't want to get into synthesis discussion, but if MDA is basically a precursor to MDMA, and its IMO a wholly superior substance, why is it so fucking rare? It seems like most people I know with even a basic knowledge of ecstasy, are aware of the existance of MDA, but like others said most haven't had a chance to try it. Why is this, and how can we change it? Haha
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I don't think it's all that rare, it's just a little more uncommon than MDMA. Most clubbers/ravers don't want to get trippy, which I suspect is the reason MDMA took off in the 80's. It was the perfect love drug that didn't screw with your mind too badly.
 
StickyChron said:
Also, question: I don't want to get into synthesis discussion, but if MDA is basically a precursor to MDMA, and its IMO a wholly superior substance, why is it so fucking rare? It seems like most people I know with even a basic knowledge of ecstasy, are aware of the existance of MDA, but like others said most haven't had a chance to try it. Why is this, and how can we change it? Haha
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Thats only one method of making MDMA, and its probably the hardest actually. That would be the method where you start with sassafras oil I believe... and as everyone learned when that Nat Geo Ecstasy show came out, its a real bitch to get that oil.


There are other ways of making MDMA, and the end product it usually more pure and overall better than when it comes from that hillbilly method
 
Not sure if this is allowed and I'm not big on chemistry, but is there a back step of sorts to get the methyl group out of MDMA so one would theoretically be left with MDA?

I live in a town dominated with clandestine meth labs, I feel like that "hillbilly" method would be popular around my area for MDMA production.
 
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I live in a town dominated with clandestine meth labs, I feel like that "hillbilly" method would be popular around my area for MDMA production.
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You can make meth with matches, drain cleaner and sudafed. Sassafras oil comes from a rare tree that grows in the rain forests of Asia and I believe South America too. Obviously your local meth producers wont be able to make it... as for taking out the extra methyl, Im sure its possible, but it would be incredibaly hard and unless you have quite a bit of experience, you would most likely fuck it up
 
I think the reason it is not as common as because people don't know about it. And also, some people are sold MDA as MDMA (cuz who wants MDA if you don't know about it, right?).

Personally I hate MDA. I felt no empathy or anything with it. It was just a lot of anxiousness. I love MDMA because of the loving feeling, the empathy, and also the fact that I am never anxious on it. I have anxiety problems with I'm sober, and MDA just made it worse. I was also just really uncomfortable. I was at my place, trying to get comfortable in my bed, in the chair, everywhere. No luck. I went to this club and hated it there, it was uncomfortable. My boyfriend felt the same way too. And he also loves psychedelics so he thought he'd enjoy how MDA is more "visual" but neither of us could get over the body feeling.
 
Low dose MDA is not what I would describe as pleasant, I found myself completely underwhelmed every time I dosed under 150-200mg. At that point the compound really starts to shine, but you're also getting into neurotoxic territory and the come down is pretty icky. Give me colors and confusion over empathy anyday. :)
 
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On further research, I dont think there is.

You might be able to remove the methylenedioxy from the methylamphetamine, but Im relatively sure that the methyl and amphetamine are too closely bonded to be removed, at least in any kind of form thats safe for your body
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*Bows* Thank you sir.

Mac Dre is the shit btw, love the avatar.
 
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