hx_
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They make me drowsy as fuck... AFTER I've slept. They don't seem to help getting to sleep, or staying there, but the certainly make getting up fucking impossible.
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They make me drowsy as fuck... AFTER I've slept. They don't seem to help getting to sleep, or staying there, but the certainly make getting up fucking impossible.
mattnotrik
Bluelighter
Sorry to say but its absolute garbage, shouldn't read everything you believe from angry vendors on <snip>., there are alot of pretty weak stadas about, but there is a huge load of good ones aswell, ive seen lab tests of them they are D10 stamped, can show you lab test positive for diazepam if you want, because this was the factor of me buying them or not, some randomer shouting that they contained this and that.
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Re-read my post and you'll see I said it was totally unsubstantiated and could be complete rubbish.
The German Stadas are different to the ones on the streets though, no question. There's a link to a German pharm review site out there with the lowdown - use Google translate on it - you'll be able to find the link in the same place you found the amitrip speculation / bollocks / whatever.
Maybe a little less defensive next time, eh?
PS: Here's what a genuine Stada should look like - note the 'F' in place of the 'D':
The German Stadas are different to the ones on the streets though, no question. There's a link to a German pharm review site out there with the lowdown - use Google translate on it - you'll be able to find the link in the same place you found the amitrip speculation / bollocks / whatever.
Maybe a little less defensive next time, eh?
PS: Here's what a genuine Stada should look like - note the 'F' in place of the 'D':
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rakketakke
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I didn't say I don't take Benzos just my doctor or any other wouldn't give them to me
I made a decision a couple of years back when I was in a bad way to fully spill the beans on my drug history as I knew it was relevant to my mental health issues, I've continued, where necessary to do the same with any doctors and councellors where I have felt it was of benefit. For me getting better is more important than potential consequences of this being on my medical records and I would encourage others to do the same as they saw fit.
If you want drugs for recreational use then go buy them, its not difficult
It's the most easiest act in the world! Drug dealers... doctors... they are one and the same. One just asks a little more questions as the other.
It's more fun to receive pharmaceuticals then drive to a testing lab every day though.
Cornishman
Bluelighter
Anyone had experience with the blue HK's?
I reckon they seem top notch, but possibly contain less diazepam than 10mgs.
I reckon they seem top notch, but possibly contain less diazepam than 10mgs.
I've only limited experience of HKs but they've always been excellent whenever I've had them. Don't think they're faked either, at least not to any great extent.
They stand up well against MSJs even, so I'd say they're as close to a consistent 10mg as you're going to get on the black market.
They stand up well against MSJs even, so I'd say they're as close to a consistent 10mg as you're going to get on the black market.
Cornishman
Bluelighter
Thankyou Sammy.
brimz
Bluelighter
So whats the most best black market Diaz out there ?
Closest to Scripted ?
Closest to Scripted ?
Depends who you ask really, and it's best not to ask the person selling them.
European ones are generally the priciest and most reliable - Gedeon Richter and Ranbaxy Terapia being the most popular.
Outside of European meds, MSJs are always pretty good but sometimes too heavily dosed, HKs are consistently good and I really rate Nicholas Piramal from India (they bought the licence from Roche for the Indian market). A lot of people rate Indian Swifts highly.
There are some Chinese vals which occasionally turn up - they're made in a government-owned factory and they're dosed at 2.5mg (weird, I know). They're real quality too.
I've not had all of the illicit diaz that's out there so I can't say for definite, but those are a few of the better ones.
European ones are generally the priciest and most reliable - Gedeon Richter and Ranbaxy Terapia being the most popular.
Outside of European meds, MSJs are always pretty good but sometimes too heavily dosed, HKs are consistently good and I really rate Nicholas Piramal from India (they bought the licence from Roche for the Indian market). A lot of people rate Indian Swifts highly.
There are some Chinese vals which occasionally turn up - they're made in a government-owned factory and they're dosed at 2.5mg (weird, I know). They're real quality too.
I've not had all of the illicit diaz that's out there so I can't say for definite, but those are a few of the better ones.
I have never had the chance to do a proper back to back test, I can get scripted one s but the price is way too high for me. Given my consumption its more about £1 for £1 what do I get and the cheap PK yellow stars win out everytime, not pretty but always realaibly does and so cheap. Blister packed stuff from PK of late has been total shite and twice a expensive as lose stars.
At the end of the day (fek I hate that phrase) its really about is it Diaz and how many do I need to take to get wher I wanna be.
I had some of the tiny MSJ's awhile back and they were like the Champagne of Diaz but the dosing was a little lixed, defintely a recreational tablet, not something you could use for daily dosing. When I got them in the post I was "working from home" the first one felt really good so I popped another and ended up having to put my pout of office on and go for a kip
twas a lovely kip though
brimz
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Cheers i was jus curious no chance i'll be buying any .
I once could get the 10/2 amps @ a v good price but never ventured in 2 that market bar that exscurion .
Nor will i less is more n cos of my huge tolerance their is no point in me taking heroic doses they have no effect 30mg is fine 300mg would be less efective in my case if that makes sense .
It's cos i've done the 600mg in a day when i was in Portugal n had unlimited acces to proper benzos.
Since then it's never been the same .
I could get 60 Ratiopharm for 2euro 30 . n also the Normison yellow eggs the last ones the chemist said that after this lot their would be no more he was a sound guy would let me have 2 boxes of each every week .
Also i had other places always Ratiopharm n they only do boxes of 60 n won't split .
Thats when i see folk talk bout eggs i 'm cynical they must be snide well not made to BP or Euro spec anyhow.
The only benzo i've never gone for is Xanax only had it a couple times n was v. disapointed .
Some folk luv it .
As ever Diazepam is the one i think. Lorazepam has no effect on me at all !!!
Temazepam is nice every 3 months or so i ruined that with my massive Linctus script n after a couple of tabs it stops working.
THe exotic ones like Nimetazepam are a dif ball game as Monsta pointed out .
Still find that Moggys work n i been on them since about 2001 i found a old packet .
So thats where i'm at these days .
30mgdiaz n 15mg nitraz.
Not to bad considering where i 've come from .
I once could get the 10/2 amps @ a v good price but never ventured in 2 that market bar that exscurion .
Nor will i less is more n cos of my huge tolerance their is no point in me taking heroic doses they have no effect 30mg is fine 300mg would be less efective in my case if that makes sense .
It's cos i've done the 600mg in a day when i was in Portugal n had unlimited acces to proper benzos.
Since then it's never been the same .
I could get 60 Ratiopharm for 2euro 30 . n also the Normison yellow eggs the last ones the chemist said that after this lot their would be no more he was a sound guy would let me have 2 boxes of each every week .
Also i had other places always Ratiopharm n they only do boxes of 60 n won't split .
Thats when i see folk talk bout eggs i 'm cynical they must be snide well not made to BP or Euro spec anyhow.
The only benzo i've never gone for is Xanax only had it a couple times n was v. disapointed .
Some folk luv it .
As ever Diazepam is the one i think. Lorazepam has no effect on me at all !!!
Temazepam is nice every 3 months or so i ruined that with my massive Linctus script n after a couple of tabs it stops working.
THe exotic ones like Nimetazepam are a dif ball game as Monsta pointed out .
Still find that Moggys work n i been on them since about 2001 i found a old packet .
So thats where i'm at these days .
30mgdiaz n 15mg nitraz.
Not to bad considering where i 've come from .
jancrow
Bluelighter
@cornish HK's are a firm fave of mine, always seemed bang on when I got them.
Benzodiazepine conversion chart
Tis a bit tricky, these conversions are never 100% accurate and can vary from person to person, and blues (street blues I presume) have pretty varying amounts of diazepam in them..but 20mg temazepam roughly equals 10mg diazepam. It's more hypnotic (sends you to sleep) than diazepam, which is primarily anxiolytic (relaxing) although diazepam is pretty sedating too..
Temazepam doesn't last as long, and it does feel quite different (IMO) so is tricky to compare, but 50mg temazepam is not equal to 100mg diazepam, that's for sure..
How long have you been on 10 blues a day for? Def make sure you taper down, stopping abruptly can be dangerous/fatal..
Tis a bit tricky, these conversions are never 100% accurate and can vary from person to person, and blues (street blues I presume) have pretty varying amounts of diazepam in them..but 20mg temazepam roughly equals 10mg diazepam. It's more hypnotic (sends you to sleep) than diazepam, which is primarily anxiolytic (relaxing) although diazepam is pretty sedating too..
Temazepam doesn't last as long, and it does feel quite different (IMO) so is tricky to compare, but 50mg temazepam is not equal to 100mg diazepam, that's for sure..
How long have you been on 10 blues a day for? Def make sure you taper down, stopping abruptly can be dangerous/fatal..
Sorry I slipped into Basic Drug Discussion mode there, sure you knew that about the differences between diaz and temaz hehe.. used to drug-noobs over there.
Taper is definitely the way forwards, especially with a month's consistent use under your belt.. good luck!
Taper is definitely the way forwards, especially with a month's consistent use under your belt.. good luck!
hx_
Bluelighter
Been refused any anti anxiety medicines that will actually work by the doctor. Her reasoning was that if she gave me something that actually works rather than propopanol, I might want to take them again.
REALLY? YOU SAY? I went in asking for something I could have on the very odd occasion, less than once a week as I didn't wanna be taking something every day and relying on it like with the propopanols. Counter intuitive or what? Now tempted to get them illegally which I personally know is likely to be risky in that ill want to take em more often as Ill have loads. 8)
REALLY? YOU SAY? I went in asking for something I could have on the very odd occasion, less than once a week as I didn't wanna be taking something every day and relying on it like with the propopanols. Counter intuitive or what? Now tempted to get them illegally which I personally know is likely to be risky in that ill want to take em more often as Ill have loads. 8)
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