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Wow serious info Splat. I really appreciate the information. I can't believe I was so ignorant with the medicinal aspects other than opiates. That's awesome you took the time to write all that out for me.

Also how'd the package sending go?

SMFG whats up with you having puppy play dates? Are you just trying to hang out with some dogs because you don't have your own yet? That's awesome if that's the case.
 
I admit I did have a little bit of amphetamines in me to help motivate me to write as much as I did (the prescribed amount though, I'm being good and not abusing them :D). Anyway, I love doing research on drugs and medical issues, especially those that pertain to me or spark my interest. The best way for me to learn with my ADHD I've noticed is to basically rant on the topics that I've researched, like I did last night. It forces me to try to lay out all the "facts" I have in my head, ask questions to verify the accuracy of the information I'm presenting, and drive me to find deeper understandings. I will admit, I do annoy my friends from time to time because of some of the rants I go on, especially if they aren't as science minded/don't have basic knowledge on such topics. However, it is a lot of fun, and is one of the few things that I manage to continue to do even with my severe ADHD.

So I spent hour and hours (probably days in continuum) since August diving into RLS and PLMS, as I started to suspect I may have a legitimate condition. I've always had some issues with sleep, but I always thought it may have been something to do with my ADHD initially (RLS and PLMS have actually been correlated with ADHD by some experts). It also wasn't as serious as it has been untill the last couple of years, so I never initially sought medical advice. It isn't uncommon for some individuals with RLS and PLMS symptoms as teenagers to see a drastic increase in their early twenties, as well as not seek medical opinions, like with my situation. With myself falling into a heavy depression, dropping out of college, my ADHD symptoms getting worse, an increase in the feeling of fatigue that I've had as a teenager, painful sensations in my legs, etc., I thought it would be stupid to not at least ask my PCP while I was picking up my amphetamine prescription about the possibility of having RLS. This caused me to dive into the research/articles available, particularly dealing with the drugs initially prescribed to me (pramipexole and ropinirole).

One more tidbit of information, which explains why some people believe my RLS/PLMS isn't real, or as serious as it really is, is that the onset occurring usually in patients younger than 40 is seen in a lot lower percentages than those seeing symptoms/having problems above the age of 40, or even 30. Between the age of 18 and 29 for adults in a sample population interviewed (Europe I believe), only ~ 3 percent of reported individuals that have symptoms occurring 4-5 times a week. When RLS symptoms occur with frequency below the age of 40 it is usually known as primary RLS, with symptoms being idiopathic. (Those reporting symptoms with this frequency and with negative resulting impact on their daily lives are considered severe. Mine is considered severe, as I have symptoms daily starting in the mid to late afternoon, and is also primary RLS mine is seen as idiopathic). There is also secondary RLS, which is common among individuals above the age of 40, and associated with medical conditions. Secondary RLS may be curable, and also can include those individuals with symptoms induced by opioid WD, certain anti-histamines, anti-depressant, etc.. This obviously can occur below the age of 40, but is less common, and has identifiable reasons for the symptoms.



The package was sent today. If I was receiving it I would be pretty happy, as I really did put some thought into it, but I'm not the one who decides whether or not it seen as a nice gesture. It definitely is a Valentines day package, or is kinda implied to be one, though I didn't mention it at all. I kinda hate the idea of valentines day, but I did want to express my feelings about her like half the united state, so it has a lovey vibe to it. I didn't spend much on it as I don't have a lot of money, or really any money for that matter, but the items I chose came from the heart, as well as the note I wrote. I put two items in it that held special meanings to me/relate to things we have in common (one I made and one I wore daily for years), one item shows who I am (shows an activity I enjoy), and there is something that I felt she would really enjoy reading from an author I love/that I feel she could relate to. It's a solid package if you ask me. I just have a feeling she isn't going to appreciate it, or wont bother contacting me even if she does feel something in her heart. The note will probably annoy her a little bit, as like I said, I really expressed how I felt about her. I don't think she can deal with someone caring about her like the way I do, or thinks she deserves these feelings. I just hope she at least opens it, and stores it away, even if she doesn't contact me. I guess I won't know what happens until 4-5 days from now I imagine if she does chose to call me. Thankfully I have a part time job starting monday, and have my class going on for 6 more weeks, so I'll be able to stay occupied and not think about it to much.
 
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SMFG whats up with you having puppy play dates? Are you just trying to hang out with some dogs because you don't have your own yet? That's awesome if that's the case.

Yep, i advertised somewhat on a facebook account for peops in my area, and got a few responses, was waiting on a txt for something today, so its obviously a no go atm... gotta call this lady tomorrow she said i can come and hang with her two dogs as she just had a baby and the pets need some attention. Hopefully that works out:\

I'm soooo hot, sweating like shit, might be time for a swim or another drink will decide soon.
 
Ah, so getting a dog raises my chances of finding a lady? *scribbles a note*. Does the same apply for cats? I mean they aren't as noisy, and don't usually smell as bad, which I'd imagine would be a plus over dogs for most women. Women seem to dislike smelly and annoying men, so clearly this has to be true. :p
 
That is so awesome you wrote that all out. That is some serious ability to channel information. What kind of classes are you taking btw? I swear you could use that wild energy and writing and info gathering skills and put it to some good use. ADHD is a gift I know it. As long as you're able to channel it, you have like a super power of sorts. I met this girl a few years ago at a job I was working at and she was the most wild energetic and high strung person you would ever meet. She had so much energy that by the time you got done talking to her you would be holding your breath from the amount of energy she'd build up in you lol. She was a serious case for ADHD and took tons of meds for it but she ended up graduating high school valedictorian of her class, no lie, and is now 4 years into college and entering law school. She is a nut. Without ADHD I don't think she'd be as good of a lawyer prospect or the same person.
I hope you treat it like a gift. The meds are great and once you can channel that power you'll be able to use it to do great things. I mean you might already know this so don't take it offensively like as if I'm schooling you. I just have a lot of respect for my friend and I know a lot of people with it don't know the power it really has.

I too was one of those people who didn't believe RLS was a real problem. I really appreciate you letting me know all of that personal information about yourself and about the information you found. I certainly wouldn't have found that on my own so it's really awesome it forced me into reading it of sorts.

Also about the package, I really hope she loves it and gives you a call, but that's great you did it regardless of her reaction. It's a good thing to be vulnerable. I've found great things happen when you put yourself in that position. It really does show how strong you really are. Some people can fake so hard to be strong but to become vulnerable, a lot of people can never bring themselves to do that. Kudos to you, seriously. Whatever happens it makes you into a better stronger person.


SMFG dogs are great I hope you have a great time. I really think you need your own though. I'm gonna keep bugging you about it until you give in one day :P.
 
Yeah, he's very well-informed and a cool guy.

'Kay guys, let's get the convo away from the details of shipping drugs and the ins and outs of RCs. There's good info here that I don't want to remove, but this isn't the place to talk about such things.
 
Huh? There isn't any talk about shipping drugs. The only talk about shipping anything was a valentines day package with some gifts (non drug items) to the individual that abandoned me recently as discussed in a few threads in TDS. Also, the RC talk was taken to a PM after it started becoming about their non-therapeutic effects for it was crossing the line a bit. Sorry about that.

I hope all the RLS talk is ok. I know it is about drugs, but I was trying to discuss the therapeutic benefits for legitimate conditions that are misunderstood by large portions of people, with my own personal experience involved in the medical treatment.
 
i think mainly the conversation needed to be steered away from psychiatry and more towards psychology

that is the line with TDS, right? :) come here to talk about your problems, but don't talk about solving your psychological issues with drugs

lol
 
Heh, sorry. Skimming ftl. More sleep needed by me.

Psychiatry discussion is fine. Might be better in the appropriate focus thread than in Social.
 
i think mainly the conversation needed to be steered away from psychiatry and more towards psychology

that is the line with TDS, right? :) come here to talk about your problems, but don't talk about solving your psychological issues with drugs

lol

The conversation hardly dealt with psychiatry or psychology. The conversation was primarily focused on a neurological disorder. Granted neurological disorders have ties with psychological conditions, like potentially my ADHD relating to the RLS and PLMS and the increased severity of symptoms influenced by my depression and anxiety, but I see a neurologist for these problems, not a psychiatrist. RLS is a chronic pain problem in some patients (mine being severe RLS, with moderate neurological pain), and a very uncomfortable, debilitating condition for all those with it. I went over not only pharmacological but also non-pharmacological treatments for RLS and PLMS. Sadly some patients with RLS can not treat their symptoms with non-pharmacological treatments alone (moderate to severe primary RLS), hence the necessity of discussing the types of drugs used. I'm not trying to avoid a problem by taking drugs, I'm taking methadone because it helps treat a neurological disorder that could may/ most likely will remain a life long problem (RLS can go into remission for periods of time, but usually seen to reappear). I also have found a large number of people don't know much about it and blow it off as exaggerated or fake condition. This honestly hits a little nerve in me, so what better to do than educate :D.

I completely agree with the idea of solving psychological problems with out aide of drugs. I followed this logic pretty much my whole life. I was on amphetamines for a year and half in high school until I decided I rather deal with my ADHD with out chemical help, and only last year got back on them (I will be discontinuing them in a month or two at the most. I'm currently seeking help with a therapist, with my ADHD has one of my focuses). I never was treated with drugs for my anxiety or depression when both have been an issue for the majority of my life. When I first started consuming drugs I laid out ground rules for myself. Never take them to solve psychological problems, never use them to avoid issues in my life/when depressed, and only consume them to explore the mind or for pure recreational (hedonistic if you'd like) purposes. I followed these ground rules till only recently (the last two years out of the 9 I've been using drugs).

Going to a therapist was seriously the best decision I've made for my health in a long time and I wish I went for it a lot sooner. I've really become an advocate in finding the therapist for an individual if life becomes to much of a struggle to conquer alone. I even have proudly shared the fact that I've been seeing a therapist with my friends. This would have made me feel embarrassed in the past, as since i was a kid, I've always felt that I should be able to fix all my problems on my own, that I was smart enough and "normal" enough to do so. Now I realize no one is immune to falling down in life, and if seeking help from a trained professional is the most beneficial way to reach your goals, or to find happiness, one should be proud to take that avenue.

Anyway, I've already ranted enough with these topics. I did enjoy discussing my medical conditions as I haven't had many people to share what I've learn with. Thanks for you guys who took the time to read and appreciate the over view :D

So, today I set up my office at this little tax company (where my mom works with one other individual [her boss]), and will be starting work tomorrow. It's not a permanent position or going to have that many hours, but it is a source of money till a couple weeks after tax season ends. I'll be kept busy with this and my class at the community college. I finally really feel like I'm starting to move forward. For months I felt so stuck, it was dragging me down so hard, I'm feeling noticeably a bit better with these new activities in my life.
 
I really appreciate everyone here in TDS. I'm not sure why I didn't post hardly, if at all in TDS over the past 6 years that I've been around, but coming back here seeking help in this sub-forum has been a wonderful decision. There are so many caring and thoughtful individuals posting :D
 
Same here I never appreciated TDS when I joined and was active like two years ago. I guess that lash back of the drugs is getting to me at this point after I've stopped using so I'm here in the "recovery" section. Go figure it all comes back to bite us in the end :P but I really love this section and the people. <3<3

And congrats Spork on the nook. New hardware is the best. My boyfriend just got a new mac today after months of me trying to convince him. Soooooo excited to be rocking some aluminum!!
 
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It took me about 8 years before I posted in TDS. It just wasn't the right time. But once I did-- the community took me in, and I felt at home right away.
 
I really appreciate everyone here in TDS. I'm not sure why I didn't post hardly, if at all in TDS over the past 6 years that I've been around, but coming back here seeking help in this sub-forum has been a wonderful decision. There are so many caring and thoughtful individuals posting :D

what was your old screen name?
 
it took me quite a while to venture into tds as well. there's so many incredibly sweet and caring people here, i wish i would have looked into tds sooner!

And congrats Spork on the nook. New hardware is the best. My boyfriend just got a new mac today after months of me trying to convince him. Soooooo excited to be rocking some aluminum!!

nice, enjoy it! i kind of took over my guy's macbook, ooops! :D
 
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