Opioids Couple of Unanswered Plugging Questions (dealing with MS-Contin)

[Lindhorst]

Alright, so I've used the search engine here and a couple of other good sites around the net and have found great guides on plugging all sorts of things including ms-contin. I know the right equipment to use, best way to go about it, blah blah blah. One question I've not come across (unless it's an IV thread) is whether or not it's fine to just pull up the gel mixture one inevitably get with ms-contin when mixing it with warm water. Most of the guides I've read refer to IR, or it at least seems that way. So,

Question 1: Is there any filtering needed for plugging ms-contin (Purple M 30s)?

Question 2: If so, what kind? Use part of a cotton ball?

This seems to be last ambiguous part of the whole process that I've come across, and a knowledgeable response would be awesome! I know this subject gets thrown around a lot and I promise, PROMISE I UTFSE many times.

Thanks for reading!

 

[ihatepipes]

No filtering needed whatsoever. The membrane in your anus does not let the insolubles pass through. They stay in your ass until you have a bowel movement. Just make sure you have cleared yourself out before you plug the solution, or it gets absorbed into your feces and not your bloodstream. I swear I have felt pins and needles before from this ROA even if they are shorter lived than IV (I am not sure because I have never IV'd but from plugging it lasts 3-5 seconds).

1. boil water in microwave.
2. use a ped egg or other form of micro plane to powderize your MSContin on a piece of wax paper.
3. dump the powder into an oral syringe.
4. Take the hot water and while dumping it out into a sink holding your oral syringe upright and drawing the water into the syringe (If you don't do it this way the pressure change in the syringe will squirt out some of the solution when you turn it upright).
5. shake the syringe while holding your finger over the tip.
6. push out the air and fill the syringe the rest of the way with water.
7. shake until it is cool enough to plug and then do so.

 

[Lindhorst]

Thank you for this very thoughtful reply! That's what I figured since 0% of all guides ever mentioned any filtering needed, even for ER tabs. Up, up, and away!

 

[Lindhorst]

Oh, by the way, one other question:

Is it necessary to remove the outer coating or should that be crushed up with everything else? Or again, it doesn't really matter? Thanks!

 

[ihatepipes]

Oh, by the way, one other question:

Is it necessary to remove the outer coating or should that be crushed up with everything else? Or again, it doesn't really matter? Thanks!

No if you try to the pill will start to gel up and you will lose some while you are grinding it. If you are going to do this you really need a ped egg to shave them down to a fine powder. I'm not exactly sure how the wax matrix works but I figure the finer the powder the more morphine available in the solution. Three other useful tips that you will see the benefit in if you try it both ways:

1. Lay on your left side when you plug and after you plug your solution lay there for 15 to 20 minutes and let your buzz come on. Most people swear by this opposed to standing up right away. I find it is best to just lay there and clear your mind of everything some prefer to take some kind of electronic device to mess around with while they are laying there.

2. Plug the solution when it is comfortably warm. Solution that is on the warm side is likely to increase blood flow in the anus and leads to faster absorption. I have never read any hard evidence about this, but it's my theory because cold solution does not work as well. However this could also be the result of cold water dissolving less morphine into solution vs. hot.

3. Don't over insert the syringe. It is thought that injecting the solution to far in decreases the effectiveness of this ROA. Check the plugging megathread for diagrams/ more information/a discussion about this (there is also alot of good general information if you are interested).

 

[Lindhorst]

Thanks for the tips again. Read through the megathread. I posted a funny/painful story at the end of it just now if you wanna check it out. God, I wish had a significant other that was cool with this that could help. Seems like the whole process would go SO much easier.

Oh and I have definitely found that lying on my stomach watching Netflix on my Kindle Fire is a great way to pass the post-plug ~20 minutes. An episode of Futurama is perfect usually.

 

[waldo777]

I've tried plugging with heroin (NYC powder) and oxy IR's and never found it as pleasant or strong as snorting the drugs. Let me/us know how it turned out for ya pls....

 

[phenethylo J]

I think I may as well ask this here rather than bumping my old unanswered thread from a couple weeks back since it is the same topic

I am perscribed these exact pills. I have this unused little plasstic needless syringe used for sucking out venom from a snake bite but am not sure if I even still have it or were it is so for the moment I wont be able to use one.

I have just broke the pill in a few pieces an just shoved it up there 2-3 times. I did notice it working but it was hard to judge the exact effectiveness since I was also on oral doses of opietes at the time.

What about crushing it to a fine powder and emptying it into half a gel cap would that have about as good absorbtion as using a orral syringe?

 

[Lindhorst]

2. use a ped egg or other form of micro plane to powderize your MSContin on a piece of wax paper.

The ped egg was a novel choice, to me at least, to use to grind down the pill. A question though. How do you use it with tearing the wax paper and basically getting ground pill everywhere?

Also, a ped egg is a micro plane? That's new to me as well.

 

[Lindhorst]

Actually, I've found that the two spoons gets a damn near powder out of these, as they have been documented doing to other pills. One at a time though is best so you don't crush too much and have some of it "puff out" from between them.

 

[Lindhorst]

I think I may as well ask this here rather than bumping my old unanswered thread from a couple weeks back since it is the same topic

I am perscribed these exact pills. I have this unused little plasstic needless syringe used for sucking out venom from a snake bite but am not sure if I even still have it or were it is so for the moment I wont be able to use one.

I have just broke the pill in a few pieces an just shoved it up there 2-3 times. I did notice it working but it was hard to judge the exact effectiveness since I was also on oral doses of opietes at the time.

What about crushing it to a fine powder and emptying it into half a gel cap would that have about as good absorbtion as using a orral syringe?

Crushing it to a fine powder allows it to be more easily absorbed. If you're just breaking the pills into pieces, a great deal of it won't hit the bloodstream I would imagine. Look at my post above for how I've found to be a very effective of crushing.

As for the gel cap idea, I do believe you really need to mix the crushed matter with water to get real absorption. Going up there dry, you'll relying whatever moisture is there to help dissolve the solids and there's not much. So, I would check the Plugging Megathread here. The oral syringe certainly seems to be easiest to use and find at a cheap cost.