The inexperienced psychonaut

[weedandecstasy]

Greetings fellow earthlings!

For some time now I have been wanting to try psychedelics and have a full blown trip. I'm pretty experienced with drugs having used marijuana, copious amounts of mdma, mda, many pharmaceuticals, many synthetic drugs including (mephedrone am2201, jwh and the like). The only experience with psychedelics I have had was with a compound called 2-CE (I had done about 30mg orally) and had an enjoyable experience in which i experienced a very energetic (almost rolly) experience with some visuals (patterns would move around, halloween decorations would move even though there was no wind, ceiling corners swirled, and lots of tracers). Also I have taken medium doses of DXM (about 300-600mg several times).

I have access to mushrooms, LSD, DMT; the works. I consider myself to have a strong mind, however I have completely freaked out on drugs before. I know with psychedelics it's all about set/setting though. Which psychedelic compound should I start out with and what would appropriate dosages be? Also any tips, and insight would be appreciated.

One love

 

[freehugs]

I would start out with mushrooms and then try LSD. A whole eighth will make you trip balls, and I definitely recommend it. But if you think you're going to freak out or whatever, try a gram on an empty stomach, and see how you're feeling after an hour. If you enjoy it, you can eat some more.

 

[That-Strange-Guy]

If you have done 30mg of 2ce you should be fine with a few hits of acid or a few grams of muchrooms. However the trips are very different.

Acid can be very mentally taxing and give you a sensation of being frozen in time and never comming down, and mushrooms although shorter lasting can take you to the darkest corners of your mind and make you feel guilty / mess with your head.

I suggest having a close friend to watch over you incase you start taking a downwards spiral during your trip for comfort. Also do not fight the trip, plan the whole night in advance with things to keep you occupied and a safe environment.

DMT is a whole other world, nothing can prepare you for it, despite the business man's high duration it will rip the third dimension out from under your feet while you still feel sober and force feed you information you would have never thought of before, truely the most enlightening experience in the world and will permenently alter your perspective of everything forever.

Happy tripping

 

[weedandecstasy]

Thanks for your replies guys

 

[freehugs]

You're very welcome
Remember, if a thought comes up that scares you, remind yourself that you're on a drug and you will comedown. You'll be golden.

 

[webbykevin]

I would start with acid, even though it's somewhat more of a high energy blast than mushrooms and last a lot longer (up to 12 hours) it is far less likely to send you into a bad direction than shrooms are, especially as you are seeking a full blown experience, I would always recommend 2 to 3 grams of mushrooms which is a milder dose than going for the full 5 grams, stick with acid for a few times and then once you have familiarised yourself with what a full blown trip fells like then shrooms will definately be easier to manage and navigate in my opinion.

If you want to add the organic component then just smoke a big joing of cannabis about 2 hours into the acid trip.

good luck, choose your set and setting carefully and have a blast buddy.

 

[cecil_cbr]

acid or mushrooms would be good to start with, they are both very enjoyable imo. Start small though just in case and dose up as the night goes along and you will be fine

 

[dkmonk]

I had a bunch of high dose mushroom experiences, and even regular ones. When I did acid though it was almost hard to believe how clear I was in my head. I was like, "This is definitely why artists, and writers use this stuff." I could stay focused and keep a train of thought pretty decent. Mushrooms it is a lot harder to do this.

I can't tell you what ug I took, but my friend who gave them to me said his girl tripped off one and 2 should be a pretty strong trip like I like. I felt like I could of easily doubled what I took.

I get a lot of visuals, and everything was beautiful and morphing, but no head fuck. I went on a walk late at night and even got stopped by a cop, and didn't even care as he patted me down and checked my ID. I felt so happy, and confident I could act pretty normal minus me randomly staring off in the sky and at trees with a cheese grin. It felt like it was meant to be, because I was the acid head detriment to society prowling his streets, so he had to check me to keep me in line, and I would usually be pissed about being harassed for no reason, but I completely understood it. I was the yin to his yang.

 

[Darksidesam]

The only experience with psychedelics I have had was with a compound called 2-CE (I had done about 30mg orally) and had an enjoyable experience.

Damn! that must have been quite something for a first time experience on psychs?

 

[weedandecstasy]

I had a bunch of high dose mushroom experiences, and even regular ones. When I did acid though it was almost hard to believe how clear I was in my head. I was like, "This is definitely why artists, and writers use this stuff." I could stay focused and keep a train of thought pretty decent. Mushrooms it is a lot harder to do this.

I can't tell you what ug I took, but my friend who gave them to me said his girl tripped off one and 2 should be a pretty strong trip like I like. I felt like I could of easily doubled what I took.

I get a lot of visuals, and everything was beautiful and morphing, but no head fuck. I went on a walk late at night and even got stopped by a cop, and didn't even care as he patted me down and checked my ID. I felt so happy, and confident I could act pretty normal minus me randomly staring off in the sky and at trees with a cheese grin. It felt like it was meant to be, because I was the acid head detriment to society prowling his streets, so he had to check me to keep me in line, and I would usually be pissed about being harassed for no reason, but I completely understood it. I was the yin to his yang.

I'm thinking about taking one hit and seeing how things go. Then possibly taking another. I'm not going to see things that aren't real right? (Like vivid visuals of people who aren't there)

Damn! that must have been quite something for a first time experience on psychs?

I experienced some visuals (blanket was swirling, patterns on the ceiling were moving around, colors were brighter, and hella tracers) and a very energetic feeling.

 

[acidclouds]

I'm thinking about taking one hit and seeing how things go. Then possibly taking another. I'm not going to see things that aren't real right? (Like vivid visuals of people who aren't there)

Seeing realistic things like a person that aren't really there would be a very atypical effect of LSD especially at a low-medium dose. However, it is possible (basically any type of experience is possible on LSD depending on the person, dose, set and setting) so if you do then dont freak out and think you've gone insane. You will be back to normal in a few hours

 

[plusfourpirate]

we cant tell you what to take; actually those sort of threads arent allowed here. but, i encourage you to read up as much as possible; i lurked and simply read posts here for, gosh, almost ten years before i decided to start posting..

you're in such an awesome phase of becoming an pschonaut; everything still seems relatively new; and with as many diff chems out there these days that all, or most, have their own character, its really an exciting time.( well, im a bit of a psych geek, so YMMV lol) just read up and decide for yourself. theres a new thread thats here now called " what are the most gentle psychedelics" i suggest you use that one as a lil guide on which ones to read up on first so you can figure out which sounds most interesting and comfy to you.

remember you have your whole life should you choose, to research these things..so dont rush into anything. its nice toi have a little element of unknown bc it adds to the adventure but i find that to be overpowered by the strength of having educated yourself on what youre taking so that you go into it feeling positive and confident. you'll likely run across some paranoid ppl along the way getting worried about bans, saying ' what are we gonna do?!' but fact of the matter is these things arent going anywhere, and youll figure out why once you start going about the process of obtaining them.

i wish you luck on your trek, bro! if you ever have a question, theres plenty of good peeps here who know their shit and are happy to help out, so dont ever hesitiate to ask whats on your mind or contribute when you feel neccessary..looking back i wish i would have been more interactive with the community in my early yrs, if for nothing back so i could look back and have a log of my transformation, so to speak. so that is my best advice

Godspeed!