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"The" Message": Entity Contact and the Illusory Universe

OH SHIT. Salvia that reminds me...

everytime I do salvia, I get taken to the outside of a giant circus tent. then I get taken to a beach, but always on a dock. I feel like its a dock to another world, and I feel a great alien presence. A lady usually shows up randomly, and then as Im on this dock, I feel large metal plates stabbing into me, as Im being sucked down. The plates are putting a ton of pressure on me, and I can feel it. It hurts. They start building up, as Im trying not to freak, and forming a structure on me, it feels like its trying to build a ship... but then I flip, and stand up and the trip ends, and the next half hour is spent trying to decipher it...


thats more or less what happens every time Ive smoked this kind of salvia, and other peoples experience Ive heard usually contain some part of that story above

Tim Leary I think said that the native people where Salvia was first found didnt even know about it until 200 years ago, how is that possible? Also it works on opiate receptors, but is the strongest hallucinogen in the world I would argue.


Did they give us a plant?



What I had was 50x
 
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"Between sentient Awareness and insentient matter is an illusion formed in the mind. Moksha is seen as a final release from this illusion when one's worldly conception of self is erased and there takes place a loosening of the shackle of experiential duality, accompanied by the realization of one's own fundamental nature: sat (true being), cit (pure consciousness), and ananda, an experience which is ineffable and beyond sensation (see satcitananda).[9] Advaita holds that Atman, Brahman, and Paramatman are all one and the same - the formless Nirguna Brahman which is beyond the being/non-being distinction, tangibility, and comprehension."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha
 
cosmic._.ape said:
"Between sentient Awareness and insentient matter is an illusion formed in the mind. Moksha is seen as a final release from this illusion when one's worldly conception of self is erased and there takes place a loosening of the shackle of experiential duality, accompanied by the realization of one's own fundamental nature: sat (true being), cit (pure consciousness), and ananda, an experience which is ineffable and beyond sensation (see satcitananda).[9] Advaita holds that Atman, Brahman, and Paramatman are all one and the same - the formless Nirguna Brahman which is beyond the being/non-being distinction, tangibility, and comprehension."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha
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^^^^^^^^^^ What he said!
 
eye_wide_open said:
Possible, but then why is it things are being hidden from us?
Why is it all the media has the same note, all the games and movies have us fighting aliens and wars in first person view as if training us for something and all the pyramids and crazy ancient things and all the religions seem to point to something big?
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...if we could ask a dog why he keeps chasing his own tail, he might come up with something like that: "my own tail...? humm... possible... but then, why it keeps moving away everytime i want to get a good grasp of it? and why it seems to move on its accord everytime i want to have a hard look at it? and why it does this and that etc?

now imagine that our "tail" is the rest of this infinite existence we are... there you go
 
eye_wide_open said:
You're telling me WE are the something?

Then why don't we do something about the world? Why don't more of us wake up?
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to thicken the plot

if we knew all this time who we really are (existence, or, more accurately, *satcitananda*) we wouldn't have come up with all the stories you name and more -nobody would have want to take the role of hitler, or bush, or any jewish in a concentration camp, or a regular Palestine nowadays... no, we rather be all budha -but then, what kind of silly existence would we have to live... no mystery, no heroes quest... just enlightenment... humm we wouldn't have explore ourselves to the utmost limit if we knew who we really are all this time since the creation of what we know as the universe

our ignorance, or forgetting, of who we really are, is what allow us to delve deep into this dualistic reality that we know as "the universe"

""God" was a single solitary consciousness existing in The Void for all eternity, but then out of boredom or loneliness or desire for love decides to dream up a universe.

This same idea is present in Gnostic Christianity EinSoph (or something like that), the Goddess Sophia, is a single solitary divine eternal consciousness that had existed forever, then in a process laid out in discussions on the Kabalistic Tree of Life, bifurcates itself repeatedly until we get this universe, but really, it all exists as a construct within the mind of the Goddess/God. But the PURPOSE for the process is seen as one suffused with infinite divine LOVE.

"But I, your poor servant, have revealed you to yourself and set you free. Dream other dreams, and better!"

(DwayneHoover)

we are one, but that is not enough as it feels lonely in eternity -the only way for us to enjoy company is by forgetting our true nature by the creation of what is known as the universe, the bifurcation of consciousness or satcitananda we really are

as deeper as we divide ourselves, as deeper is the forgetting and, therefore, as real all this illusion feels to us, figments of ourselves. as real this illusion feels, as further we get to know ourselves by observing disparage behaviours, attitudes, perceptions, dreams, inventions etc in ourselves

"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us a 'universe' a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." (Albert Einstein)
 
ultimately, the "message" is: *we are the universe AND we must improve it"

we have been experimenting with ourselves for millions of years -it's time to end the experiment, applied what we have learn and develop into paradise ...it's time... time to end misery, anguish and any form of pain or suffering -time to enjoy ourselves forever and more

empathy is on the rise... ;)
 
"...a ride??? no way this is "just a ride" -how could it be after all i invested in it!"
eye_wide_open said:
I did write my own bible under the influence of the "alien energy" that does not happen every time I do DMT or MXE. I can't go writing bibles any old time I want. Something flipped a major switch and gave me tons of info. In that bible I wrote of things I had no prior idea.
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"...therefore it must be real! and important! it can't be all part of a ride! you don't go about writing bibles while on a ride; thus this is not an illusion, it is not a ride, i'm real real and my bible too and..."

* * *

to say "reality" is an illusion just means that everything is in a flux, things come and go, while satchitananda remains as the foundation of change, or time, itself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE9dEAx5Sgw
 
You talk about the roots of buddhism and religions but then you dismiss the idea of unity/oneness, bit of a paradoxical view no?

The thing a lot of people who have not experienced "it" often miss is they see the whole argument "You are God" or "We are all one", and they take that to mean we are some supreme divine being, we are this selfish egotistical force of energy shaping the world for our desire, bringing about pain and suffering. I think the secret in fact lays in the opposite, we are all the humble source, not some big-headed force sitting amongst the clouds reigning his sweet dictation upon the masses, but one light in union constantly shifting and shaping a unique world through dream and imagination.

It's the one state that can be accessed through NDEs, OBEs, trips, meditation, traumatic events etc - and all leads to the exact same thing, the "source" or oneness.

Now I apologise for using such "religious" terms, but I think most who've been there will agree with me that it does it no justice to just call it oneness and leave it at that. What am I saying? You've been there, you are there, you just don't quite remember ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha

Buddhism and Hinduism have done a much better job at documenting and explaining this wonderful message than I could ever do. :)
 
http://www.kfs.org/~jonathan/witt/t64en.html

"The sense of the world must lie outside the world. In the world everything is as it is and happens as it does happen. In it there is no value -- and if there were, it would be of no value.

If there is a value which is of value, it must lie outside all happening and being-so. For all happening and being-so is accidental."

http://www.kfs.org/~jonathan/witt/t563en.html

"Where in the world is a metaphysical subject to be noted?
You say that this case is altogether like that of the eye and the field of sight. But you do not really see the eye.

And from nothing in the field of sight can it be concluded that it is seen from an eye."
 
One of the strongest "messages" i've ever gotten was a kind of mantra thing where i kept repeating "god is the mind, god is the mind, god is the mind" for god knows how long. It was a freaking scary trip on 2c-e and the idea of the mantra was that all things, good and bad happen for the same reason, and they need each other (life/death, good/bad) in order to exist.
 
He also says that DMT is produced in the pineal gland, and during sleep and death. Circulating the same dumb rumours that everyone has been spreading ever since Strassman hypothesized that DMT might be produced in the pineal gland, and even then it was just a wild guess because he couldn't find evidence for where it was being produced. We don't even actually know 100% if it is produced in the human body or if the trace amounts of DMT found in the bloodstream were due to external factors such as the fact that it's found in so many plants that we consume.

Alex Jones really doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, unfortunately. It's fairly easy to see he's more than a conspiracy theorist - he's incredibly wildly delusional.

There's a similar same issue with Joe Rogan but he isn't delusional, just has been a bit misinformed, and he actually tried to brush up his knowledge on DMT, and aside from perpetuating the pineal gland myth he's not so bad.

Avoid that guy like the plague though imo 8(
 
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