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The Bikie Wars

^^ the HA's (at least here in sydney) were getting their asses kicked in respect to their image for awhile. they didnt have the numbers here or enough crazy c**ts it seemed to muster up anything significant enough to boost their reputation and influence.

But the Hells angeles must be doing something right cos they have a mountain of cash and used it to convince alot of bandits members (parramatta chapter) to defect to the Hells angels. I heard that the new hells angels parramatta chapter were given 1 million in cash, a clubhouse built and a couple of custom harleys, and i heard the main reason the ex bandits from parra agreed to defect was because more money can be made with the hells angels whereas the only way to make serious money with the bandits is to be high up. (so i heard)....

now since the hells angels parramatta chapter has formed its a whole different story.the members in this 'new' HA chapter have had a tough reputation for a long time and they have bought this reputation with them to the hells angels. its funny how quickly the hells angels's image and reputation on the street increased after these 'new' members were recruited here in sydney.

i dunno what the hells angels reputation is in melbourne or other cities in australia is though, that was just my thoughts on how i seen the hells angels rep in sydney, and it was just my 2 cents people....
 
Yeah the angels were weak after that airport brawl but then after they recruited felix lyle everything changed.The problem with the parra HA is they were first nomads then bandits then HA so these guys bring enemies with them when they go to new clubs once the money dries up with the HA they will look for a new club.The rebels have the numbers and the HA have the $$$ the bandits have had more guys from other chapters not just parra that have left pretty soon it will be only left with the older guys because the younger guys like joing the bigger clubs.5 years ago they were 2nd most powerful in sydney now they just sat and watched while there parra chapter left them same with the nomads once the parra chapter left them they got weak.The HA should also focus in on taking over those small clubs the only club that doesnt loose numbers or power ever are the rebels i dont know y
 
In Darwin there has been HA only for about 20-30 years, every now and then another club comes up and has a look around,

Nearly the whole chapter was put in jail a couple years ago and the other ones left where run out by the club for different reasons,

So they have had to recruit and re-structure which takes time,

This year the Rebels have come up and now have a club house,

Its a gold mine up there for any club and now with another club being in town the prices mite actually drop....

The rebels have a huge job ahead tho HA have a huge presence up there and a lot of loyalty....

Should be an interesting time for Darwin...
 
A POWER struggle may erupt in the Comancheros with the national body dumping ex-SA president Vince Focarelli.

The Comancheros raided Focarelli's tattoo parlour, Ink Central, stripping him of all paraphernalia related to the bikie gang just days after a third attempt was made on his life.

It's believed some SA Comancheros, especially former New Boys street gang members, are expected to remain loyal to Focarelli causing fears of a violent blood feud.

Focarelli was the president of the New Boys, but merged his gang with the Comancheros after a series of public attacks during a war with the SA chapter of the Hells Angels. But sources say if Focarelli's comrades decide to leave with their former president, it will not happen without a great deal of violence.

Focarelli has now been expelled from two of the most notorious bikie gangs in the world.
His fallout with senior Hells Angels north crew member Danny Papadopoulos led to two alleged murder attempts and triggered the founding of the New Boys.

The pair were once close - Focarelli was a Hells Angel's prospect under the sponsorship of Papadopolous - but the catalyst that sparked their fallout remains a mystery to all but those closely involved.

Exactly what has caused the Comancheros to exile Focarelli is also not known but the violence has prompted Police Commissioner Mal Hyde to label conflicts between bikie gangs as the highest priority for police.

"Police are particularly concerned about violence in public places and the potential for innocent people to be hurt," he said.

The Comancheros and the Hells Angels have a history of ill-feeling towards each other but they now find themselves with a common enemy. Focarelli recently survived a third attempt on his life after a gunman wounded him in the leg after firing a volley of shots during a midnight ambush at Munno Para West.

Three Comancheros were then fired upon at North Adelaide's Caffe Paesano on Sunday last week, in what police believe was part of a dispute between gangs.

Focarelli is undergoing treatment at the Royal Adelaide Hospital but is expected to be released within days.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...mancheros-leader/story-e6frea83-1226230261039
 
SoWhat! said:
With your grammar im not surprised you misconstrued what i said. I said El Chappo, like the bikies didn't care whether people were a witness to the violence his gang caused, nor did the Hells Angels in Sydney. Business continued.

And they do own clubhouses, i've been to 5 in two different states. You really think a landlord would allow them to build barricades out the front?

My point stands, they're a sophisticated criminal network who are by no means fiscally strapped.

The Amercan HA and the Aussie HA's may be involved in different criminal activities, but if you wear the patch you are bound to the same code. You can't tell me they don't collaborate when it comes to drug importation, weapons trafficking and money laundering.....please!!!!!!!!
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Haha a close one leased out a premises to bikies for 11 years in some part of Sydney. This highlights that not all bikies purchase their club houses.
 
THE Comancheros dumped former South Australian president Vince Focarelli over claims he had been siphoning drug profits.

The Advertiser has been told interstate members of the bikie gang believe Focarelli had been hoarding some of the proceeds from drug sales instead of passing it on to the national leadership, triggering last week's violence.

The dispute led to interstate Comancheros raiding his tattoo parlour, Ink Central, and stripping it of all paraphernalia associated with the bikie gang.

Focarelli has become a marked man. He was shot in the leg during a third attempt on his life last week and remains in the Royal Adelaide Hospital.

Police are concerned, however, at the possibility of public and internal violence between gang members when Focarelli is released from hospital.

It is not known if he will accept the national order and try to escape from the escalating violence that is surrounding him or if he will fight it, triggering the potential for further bloodshed.

Focarelli, however, has never been one to flee from a fight and, after being the former president of the New Boys and now the SA Comancheros, is not expected to give up easily.

Many of the New Boys and some Comancheros are also expected to remain loyal to their former president, so public conflict is likely to continue.

Focarelli has previously served a jail term of more than six years for offences including heroin and cannabis trafficking, and assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

He was released on parole in September, 2006.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/focarelli-in-drug-money-rip-off/story-e6frea6u-1226231418644
 
nobodyspecial said:
I read through nearly this whole thread earlier tonight as a guest, so now I am logged in I will say thanks to the ppl that contributed to it and you know who you are!

Things were funny at times with squiggles & heisenberg, I sort of pictured them sitting there naked, eating kfc and calling bikies pussy's as they typed with one hand, but despite some of the dickswinging overall very informative, shame some of the picture links are missing now...

I dont know any bikies, Ive never seen any bikies, I dont have any bikie stories, I saw nothing, Im nobody special

A lot of it probably goes unreported though like some ppl said, head to the missing persons website and Im sure there are some stories in there...
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i hope my '3 incher' wasnt dickswinging too much in my comments in this thread... i dont want to be responsable for any insects on the computer screen getting a cold HAHA...



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Mario_x86_64 said:
THE Comancheros dumped former South Australian president Vince Focarelli over claims he had been siphoning drug profits.

The Advertiser has been told interstate members of the bikie gang believe Focarelli had been hoarding some of the proceeds from drug sales instead of passing it on to the national leadership, triggering last week's violence.

The dispute led to interstate Comancheros raiding his tattoo parlour, Ink Central, and stripping it of all paraphernalia associated with the bikie gang.

Focarelli has become a marked man. He was shot in the leg during a third attempt on his life last week and remains in the Royal Adelaide Hospital.

Police are concerned, however, at the possibility of public and internal violence between gang members when Focarelli is released from hospital.

It is not known if he will accept the national order and try to escape from the escalating violence that is surrounding him or if he will fight it, triggering the potential for further bloodshed.

Focarelli, however, has never been one to flee from a fight and, after being the former president of the New Boys and now the SA Comancheros, is not expected to give up easily.

Many of the New Boys and some Comancheros are also expected to remain loyal to their former president, so public conflict is likely to continue.

Focarelli has previously served a jail term of more than six years for offences including heroin and cannabis trafficking, and assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

He was released on parole in September, 2006.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/focarelli-in-drug-money-rip-off/story-e6frea6u-1226231418644
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Anyone here from adelaide how many como members are there because it says that some of them will remain loyal to forcelli so if there are like 10 members and half leave then the club wont exsist any more.U cant have a gang with 5 members
 
This is an article published in 2009 from the Sydney Morning Herald. the gangs mentioned (except for notorious) are originally suburb based ethnic gangs/groups and not typically referred to as a 'bikie gang'.

I'm posting this because it points out the gangs which i think are at least as big if not more of a problem than the bikie gangs here in Sydney for police. If its fair to say there's a greater chance of an innocent person (with no links to OLMC's or organised crime) becoming a victim of a crime committed by these groups then from the bikie gangs, then they would have to be more of a concern for the average person too.

These 'gangs' (lol i hate using that term) are originally from around the Auburn, Granville & Parramatta areas. The worst thing is that they have affiliated with bikie gangs/gang members in those areas and apparently now are used as 'foot soldiers' for violent extortion & retribution attacks and as a proving ground for future recruitment into the affiliated gang members chapters.


The rise and rise of new gangs



* Les Kennedy
* March 29, 2009

THEY call themselves MBM - the Muslim Brotherhood Movement - a gang of 600 men who boast they are the toughest and best young street fighters of Middle Eastern descent in Sydney.

MBM claims to be the biggest of four new gangs to emerge on Sydney streets in the past year. Its numbers rival those of the state's largest bikie gang, the Rebels.

The sudden appearance of MBM, with its growing membership recruited predominantly from the city's south-western suburbs, has alarmed senior police already battling to combat open warfare among outlaw motorbike gangs.

Even hardened private security guards have expressed concern to police about the indiscriminate "punch and run" tactics of MBM members who, in the past two weeks, have arrived in large numbers at city nightclub venues and who walk the streets in intimidating mobs. But the objectives of MBM - its emblem features two crossed pistols and a hand grenade - and its leadership remain unclear to officers of both the Organised Crime and Gang Squad and Middle Eastern Organised Crime Squad.

Police say that a fortnight ago MBM members embarked upon a campaign of random assaults on men who crossed the path of a mob of about 100 toughs stalking Darlinghurst and Kings Cross during the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras.

A week ago about 30 MBM members intimidated private security guards at government car auctions at Smithfield.

The emergence of MBM also coincides with the rise of two other urban Sydney gangs - the Parra Boyz or Asesinoz MC and Brothers For Life or BFL.

Police say BFL - with a logo featuring crossed machine-guns - is not dissimilar to MBM in its extremist views, but membership numbers are unknown. Police describe Asesinoz, comprising teenagers of Middle Eastern decent, as "tough kids" who use the video-sharing website YouTube to promote Islamic extremism and anti-Australian actions such as flag burning.

The group, which recently changed its name from the Parra Boyz, has more than 40 members, some of whom are known to police for committing acts of violence and vandalism.

Its creation follows that of the Notorious bikie gang, comprising members of Middle Eastern and Pacific Islander extraction, more than a year ago after a split in the membership of the Nomads motorcycle club.

Notorious members, who police allege are engaged in a series of tit-for-tat drive-by shootings on members of rival club the Bandidos in western Sydney, declared they will not be stood over by other gangs.


There are OLMC chapters that are slowly becoming more and more structured around nationality,religion and/or family ties. these bikie chapters in western and south western Sydney i foresee in the near future to breakaway from their mainstream gangs.

These middle eastern breakaway or 'splinter groups' will use what they have learnt inside the gang (how the gang makes money through crime etc) and try take with them what ever connections,contacts etc they can get their hands on, anything that they can use to make money. what ever else the original bikie gang still possess (be it loyal cooks and drug production, re-birthing connections, protection setups) the middle eastern breakaways will use intimidation along with insider knowledge of personal details of former 'brothers' to try muscle in...

If this does happen (which i cant see any other possible outcome) these 'gangs' with their hundreds of young 14-20 year old members will forsure be used as soldiers and do all the dirty work, trying to prove themselves, willing to bash, stab or shoot without any thought of repercussions.
middle eastern groups used these techniques with success when they wanted a piece of the kings cross cake, its just no-one asked them to cut the cake into pieces so they took the whole 'piece' (and the box that it came in too).







http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-rise-and-rise-of-new-gangs-20090328-9eri.html
 
SoWhat! said:
Clubhouses aren't cheap, and keep in mind a lot of bikies don't work
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And a lot do too. A lot more do than don't. Like has been pointed out - more often than not, club fees pay the bills and the property isn't owned.

SoWhat! said:
however Meth is strictly forbidden amongst the bikies themselves after the Christopher Hudson incident
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No it's not. I could name a number of clubs where it isn't banned. Whacking up is mostly, but not necessarily meth. And the club that he was from - meth was banned well before he was even a member. And he wasn't even on meth anyway.

SoWhat! said:
hence why they employ Master-of-Arms to dish out punishment
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A 'Master-of-Arms'? I know the "Master-of-Men" flash.. and the "SGT-at-Arms" office bearer.. but Master-of-Arms? Hm.. interesting.

SoWhat! said:
The Amercan HA and the Aussie HA's may be involved in different criminal activities..
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This half-sentence tells me all I need to know about how much you know.

OND43X said:
they didnt have the numbers here or enough crazy c**ts
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This is based on what, exactly? Your intimate knowledge of the club? Stupid comment.

ace99 said:
The HA should also focus in on taking over those small clubs the only club that doesnt loose numbers or power ever are the rebels i dont know y
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Lol they don't have any power to lose. A top rocker isn't worth the material it's printed on if you can buy it..

apolloraver said:
In Darwin there has been HA only for about 20-30 years
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Close.. but no cigar. The forebearers to the club go back that long.. but the club hasn't been around for 20 years up there.

ace99 said:
Anyone here from adelaide how many como members are there because it says that some of them will remain loyal to forcelli so if there are like 10 members and half leave then the club wont exsist any more.U cant have a gang with 5 members
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He isn't a commo.

And if he was - their club rules may allow a chapter with 5 members. Just because some clubs say they need 6 or 8 or whatever for a chapter, doesn't mean thats how the commos roll. In any case - he isn't a member.
 
I would love to know how serious the previous "asassination attempts" were. Shooting him in the leg, gun jamming, getting blown up transporting a bomb... sounds very Roadrunner vs coyote to me. I'm no cold hard killer but I would assume that if I wanted to kill someone I would at least try and put a bullet in his head. I'd probably even dress up in a suit to get close enough to so it.
 
They did supply me with my text book money at uni in exchange for science lab glassware back in the day. Still wouldn't want to owe them a favour to be honest.
 
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