Tripping in Public/ Apparent Intoxication

[ProxxyLynx]

To start this off, I feel it is necessary to say that I am fairly experienced with psychedelics.
I wont even pretend that I have the experience that many on here have, but I have used LSD, Psyclobin, 4-Aco-Dmt, DPT, and other RC's/Psychedelics in varying doses (One experience at least a +++, possibly ++++ on the shulgin scale) many times (Once again, I do not say this to dick size, but only to show that I am fairly comfortable with psychedelics).
That being said, I have never, not once, felt comfortable in public, or even around friends that I do not know very well, on any form of psychedelic or mix.
It can be bad to the point of throwing my entire trip off, and has caused at least one bad trip.
I realize I am not alone in this.

Now, too the point of this whole thread.
1.) What is your opinion on tripping in public?
Among my friends and acquaintances I have had extremely varied responses.
One in specific said that, "You shouldn't be tripping or fucked up on drugs in public, there are families around, not to mention it's just disrespectful."
Another, on the other side of the spectrum, said something along the lines of as long as were not harming anybody or yelling at people, why should it make a difference if I am under the influence.

2.)How obvious do you think it is to inexperienced/ non trippers that you are on psychedelics?
I realize this varies extremely much from dosage and what you took, but in general.
I've been around friends that are tripping and I didn't even realize until they told me.
I've also been called out on tripping before as it was immediately obvious, even though I thought it wasn't.

3.) Do you prefer to be in public (going to stores, amusement parks, walking around downtown / public park/ whatever), or private (Home, friends house, etc.) when tripping?

 

[!!4iV4HF9R34g]

I kill it in public all dosed out. I get like.. Powers.
Confidence, dexterity, wit, sex appeal, BOOM they all skyrocket.
Plus you can like, manipulate your environment.

And the only time people notice is if I'm being too loud.

Still rather be in relative privacy though.
Unless we're riding the train. Then, that.

 

[spacejunk]

sometimes you have to be in public in order to properly enjoy your trip.
tripping at music festivals, for example, can be frightening, but very rewarding.
once you learn to keep your wits about you, it can be easier to do...but don't stress - if you're not ready, maybe give it some time.
nothing will give you away more than obviously freaking out. composure is the key.

as for the ethics of tripping in public?
fuck em. people stumble around drunk in public all the time. trippers are harmless people, far more harmless than a drunk.

have you tried walking around in public stoned? that's how i got used to dealing with the "shit, i'm high" paranoia, because that's all it is - paranoia.
unlike alcohol, it's all in your head. your body isn't impaired in the same way, and if you want to act composed, that's a choice open to you.
i prefer to be outdoors when tripping, so this means being in public. i've gotten used to it.
had some weird experiences, but it's all part of the trip.

 

[Aetherius Rimor]

That being said, I have never, not once, felt comfortable in public, or even around friends that I do not know very well, on any form of psychedelic or mix.

You are having a very personal experience. When people I don't know well (if I know them all) start talking to me, I usually get very uncomfortable and am highly suspicious of them. A good friend has same experience.

1.) What is your opinion on tripping in public?
Among my friends and acquaintances I have had extremely varied responses.
One in specific said that, "You shouldn't be tripping or fucked up on drugs in public, there are families around, not to mention it's just disrespectful."
Another, on the other side of the spectrum, said something along the lines of as long as were not harming anybody or yelling at people, why should it make a difference if I am under the influence.

As long as you are taking a dose that could only give you a ++, I have no objections provided you are not scaring anyone/causing problems. A public park can be a beautiful place to trip. Just like it's (depending on local laws/park rules) generally ok to get tipsy at a public park/beach/whatever, getting smashed drunk is not.

2.)How obvious do you think it is to inexperienced/ non trippers that you are on psychedelics?
I realize this varies extremely much from dosage and what you took, but in general.
I've been around friends that are tripping and I didn't even realize until they told me.
I've also been called out on tripping before as it was immediately obvious, even though I thought it wasn't.

To the inexperienced (havent done it at all or very little) who also have never been around people they knew were tripping, as long as you can maintain composure I doubt they'll notice. If they know you very well however, it may be obvious that something is different.

I've candi flipped on 2 hits of L and 200mg of mdma, and been told "if you hadn't told me, I probably wouldnt have guessed". Mentally though I was in a state of pure bliss with waves of pleasure washing over me and couldn't concentrate enough to stay standing. So I sat down, and just enjoyed myself quietly.

3.) Do you prefer to be in public (going to stores, amusement parks, walking around downtown / public park/ whatever), or private (Home, friends house, etc.) when tripping?

I trip in only 3 situations.

1. Public "parties", but at most a ++
2. Private parties or friends house, at most a +++
3. At home.

Anytime I am doing a substance for the first time at public parties, I try to get just a single + though. I discover my limits while at home in my bed/on the computer, and once I'm comfortable with the knowledge I can keep composure/not make an idiot of myself/not be a burden to anyone.... then I consider that dosage level for situations around other people.

Honestly, I think everyone should be extremely cautious about being "fucked up" in public, because we don't want to "confirm" the fears anti-drug propaganda has instilled in the general population.

 

[Aetherius Rimor]

fuck em. people stumble around drunk in public all the time. trippers are harmless people, far more harmless than a drunk.

Trippers are -not- harmless. If sufficiently dosed, their view of reality can be distorted to the point they could mistake harmless gestures/speech as an insult or threat just like a drunk person. They could get into a situation they might fear for their life, and either become violent or act in a manner that frightens people. People know how to handle a drunk person for the most part, most don't know how to handle someone tripping.

I've got left babysitting someone having a really strong trip once. Poured some soda down the drain, and they got in my face yelling that I just poured the blood of their ancestors down the drain and was trying to kill them. Was really worried they might get violent...

 

[Ismene]

It's best avoiding strangers and policemen when obviously intoxicated.

 

[itsok]

yea but its good to be lucky tooo

 

[RobotRipping]

1) when i was younger i used to always trip in public but i don't think i can handle it anymore. It's not really because there are families around (i'm sure most people can control themselves on psychedelics) or that it's disrespectful (i don't see how it would be). It's mostly to do with anxiety and having to deal with people who aren't tripping.

2) I think for a non-tripping person it would be very difficult to figure out if someone were on a classic psychedelic or 2c-x or other drugs along that line.

3) i prefer tripping in private but the odd time i'll get really high and go see a movie.

 

[Spoken Word]

I was tripping on a NICE dose of LSD around 3pm on a breezy sunny day. No problem. Just have someone around you making sure you dont freak out and you always have to have some kind of self-control. I actually had a great day-trip that day. I put some big sun glasses on, walked around with some friends...some were just high, others were tripping with me. As long as you dont bring attention on to yourself, it's fine - i think.

 

[Nephtys]

The truth is that people in general don't understand how ridiculous it feels to be trolling the real world specifically on psychedelics.
It is an utterly epic endeavor that is probably one of the better things a person could choose to do in life.
I choose to disrespect drug users as a group for not having more deep adventures

 

[bunnyhentman]

I trip in public all the time, because I live in a big city. I'm pretty sure that if I come off impaired, it just looks like I'm drunk or stoned. People aren't expecting to run into tripping people about town, so there's no point in worrying about it. And most people don't want to have to deal with an insane person, so they will prefer to avoid you if you are flipping out. In my experience, you can get away with being pretty confused and disoriented as long as you don't seem hostile or damage anyone's property.

 

[Nephtys]

I trip in public all the time, because I live in a big city. I'm pretty sure that if I come off impaired, it just looks like I'm drunk or stoned. People aren't expecting to run into tripping people about town, so there's no point in worrying about it. And most people don't want to have to deal with an insane person, so they will prefer to avoid you if you are flipping out. In my experience, you can get away with being pretty confused and disoriented a long as you don't seem hostile or damage anyone's property.

I totally agree, people just don't expect you tripping... Generally most people don't even know what tripping is. I once tripped on 200ug lsd + 20mg 2c-e with my parents/brother/sister. They didn't notice anything... I'm not proud of that, but that proofs the point people don't expect trippers.

 

[spacejunk]

Trippers are -not- harmless. If sufficiently dosed, their view of reality can be distorted to the point they could mistake harmless gestures/speech as an insult or threat just like a drunk person. They could get into a situation they might fear for their life, and either become violent or act in a manner that frightens people. People know how to handle a drunk person for the most part, most don't know how to handle someone tripping.

I've got left babysitting someone having a really strong trip once. Poured some soda down the drain, and they got in my face yelling that I just poured the blood of their ancestors down the drain and was trying to kill them. Was really worried they might get violent...

well...i guess we know different trippers. i've tripped in public hundreds of times with different people and never seen any aggression but then again i don't fraternise with aggressive assholes.

 

[shishigami]

I've been to the aquarium while tripping. It's scary at first but not bad just being around others and every once in a while making small talk. I would probably prefer being in complete public to a semi-private place where the setting was more intimate and I didn't know everyone super well.

 

[YaniCZka]

1. - I fucking hate it when people get intoxicated in public - drunk or tripping, it is lame. I even dont like people on acid who go to parties, since they are just too out of it and you never know what they may do. But doing such shit in normal public settings is extreme idiocy - do what you want at your home but dont bother other people with it and yes, tripping balls in public bothers sober people - makes them uncomfortable and scared. Psychadelic drugs should be really kept in privacy. The same goes for people injecting or snorting drugs in public!

2. - I guess it depends on how much you take. But once you start halucinating and you cant keep your shit together it is pretty easy to tell...

3. - Defo at home in privacy, as I said earlier, I dont believe that one should bother other people with their use and taking trips in public may turn tasty quite easily.

 

[SpecialK_]

Tripping in public is part of the fun, provided you are experienced you shouldn't run into any problems nor cause a disturbance among those around you. If anything, you would be more cautious because at times you think so deeply. Some people cannot handle it though and at times it can be confusing, but I would say 99% of the time it is never causing disruption. Unless someone is completely freaking out.

1. - I fucking hate it when people get intoxicated in public - drunk or tripping, it is lame. I even dont like people on acid who go to parties, since they are just too out of it and you never know what they may do. But doing such shit in normal public settings is extreme idiocy - do what you want at your home but dont bother other people with it and yes, tripping balls in public bothers sober people - makes them uncomfortable and scared. Psychadelic drugs should be really kept in privacy. The same goes for people injecting or snorting drugs in public!

You talk as if people tripping are going around destroying the place... in fact I wonder if you have tripped yourself writing something like that. It's not lame at all, it's sociable and it's what a large amount of people who trip do, have you ever been to a festival?

 

[\/apor]

i get paranoid as hell when im tripping in public, i went into a gas station for a snapple and made eye contact with this big burly mofo, he stared me down and was like "pull up your pants, your white" scared the hell out of me.
note: my pants do not normally "sag", and you best bet i pulled them up, i did not want to upset this dude.

 

[spacejunk]

^ when you mention mxe/dxm, you're talking about dissociatives, not psychedelics. while there is some crossover in effect, i don't consider taking dissociative drugs in public to be "tripping" in public. it's more messed up, more complicated.

yes, some psychs have a heavy body load, but you are capable of walking around and appearing normal on most classic psychedelic drugs in a way that some other drugs don't allow. you have good balance and motor function on LSD/mushrooms/psilocybin, and i think so long as you are able to take the psychological challenges, you should be ok. it can be scary, but in a way that's all a part of the fun. walking down the street isn't usually an intimidating experience, and it is this alteration of reality that makes us play with such chemicals in the first place, right?

 

[Aetherius Rimor]

well...i guess we know different trippers. i've tripped in public hundreds of times with different people and never seen any aggression but then again i don't fraternise with aggressive assholes.

The thing is you can't predict how people will respond when their entire world view collapses.

I will trip in public with people I know can handle it. Until such a point though, I tell everyone to low dose and be in a safe and calm environment.

The truth is that people in general don't understand how ridiculous it feels to be trolling the real world specifically on psychedelics.
It is an utterly epic endeavor that is probably one of the better things a person could choose to do in life.

One of the things I tell anyone who hasn't tried Acid (or long lasting psychedelics in general) is that it's essentially "reality on hard mode". If you're someone who fails to function in normally, don't take them.

However if day to day life is boring, trivial and without difficulty.... reality on hard mode is so amazing and so beautiful. When going to the bathroom takes planning and concentration, and you can have a sense of humor about such things, it's just awesome.

Wrote the following when tripping once:

"Having a sense of humor is essential.... required.... MANDATORY! ....... or else "

 

[folding_space]

1) If you can handle your shit, do it. If you can't, don't. It's as simple as that. As long as you understand that you're still fully responsible for your actions, there is no reason not to dose in public, and the idea that this is somehow inherently disrespectful is ludicrous. Society should have no say in how and where I choose to alter my internal experience with chemicals.

2) This depends on the user. Unless I'm going through ego death or full-blown body loss, I can generally hide what's going on quite well. At worst, I'll seem really high. That being said, I often choose not to hide the fact that I'm tripped out because I don't give a shit, but that's a different matter altogether.

3) They're both good in their own ways. For breakthrough doses or new substances, I prefer a more controlled environment, but once I'm comfortable with the substance/dose, I'll gladly take it in public if that's the prerequisite for enjoying something I like, such as nature, art, or music.

As other posters have suggested, you may be able to address your personal fears by experimenting with being in public while high or on very low doses of psychedelics. Consider this an opportunity for self-improvement.