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Opioids Opiate W/D Meds from Student Health

dcraver877

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What meds are typically given for opiate withdrawal? I'm trying to decide whether I should go to student health or not. They seemed pretty clueless in the past. I think they aren't even actual doctors yet. They just use the university as their training ground... What are the most commonly prescribed meds for opiate withdrawal?
 
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If you're talking about VCU student health, I wouldn't bother.

Usually its loperamide, blood pressure meds, maybe something to help you sleep...
 
I wouldnt imagine you will get much help but I would ask for clonidine,baclofen, and maybe a benzo if I felt they actually gave a shit
 
yea...vcu student health. well i guess clonidine will help. This one doc gave me xanax last month for a presentation. She seemed cool so maybe I can talk to her again

oh, and is the thomas recipe created by a doctor? I was going to print it out but if a doctor didn't create it...i don't think it would be accepted as fact by these people..

the way i see it, might as well try and take advantage of the free (semi) health-care available to me
 
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I can only really see them giving you a number for an addiction specialist. If they do prescribe anything, I would imagine it would be clonodine, as mentioned above. Benzos seem unlikely, as it would probably be too risky for a student health worker to give someone with addiction problems another addictive substance (and one that's withdrawals can actually be fatal to boot.)

Medicine used for opiate withdrawal would be buprenorphine (suboxone/subutex),methadone,clonodine, sometimes muscle relaxants such as flexeril, and I've heard of people using dihydrocodiene for this purpose, though it would be an off label use of the drug. Clonazepam is sometimes used too.
 
Does Tylenol W/ Codeine help for W/D at all? I have been doing around 240mg of Oxy for the past six months, but more in the past 2 (400mgs). I have tried to quit two times previously, made it 3 days and 2 days, but this time, I am not going to have to worry about getting up for work or have to do anything productive for around a week, which I am hoping will be sufficient.

My list consists of:

Nyquil (for the doxylamine)
Imodium (for the loperamide)
A strong muscle relaxant of some sort
Possibly Tylenol #4 (Acetaminephin with codeine)
Clonazepam

Is there anything else I should prepare?
 
I would just deal with it. If you go to them for this, then I wouldn't expect to get any benzos in the future for any presentations since they will put down in your file that you are a substance abuser.

I had a very bad withdrawal from a serious opiate habit while at school, but I was largely at fault for not tapering efficiently. Do you have any opiates left to allow you to taper a bit during the week, and take your last dose on like Thursday so that you can withdraw over the weekend? If this is just the beginning of the semester then it is better to just get it over with now, before you get to around midterms. Most professors are used to their students missing a few classes in the beginning of the spring semester, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal. I would only really see you missing 1 or 2 days (if any) if you plan it out to mostly withdraw over the weekend. It's only really 3 days of withdrawal, with a few more days of slight withdrawal, but nothing that would keep you from attending class.
 
Best advice I can give, having gone thru this once a month for years until I finally quit, is to perform a version of the rapid-detox method at home - preferably with a sitter or someone to check on you. Basically the idea is to sleep through the worst of it, particularly the first 3 days if at all possible. Understand that different opiates have differing half-lifes, and though you think you may be in withdrawal if you miss that next dose or so, the worst typically comes 24-48hrs later. IMHO, the best thing you could hope to get a hold of is zolpidem from the school med dept. That will usually (with alternate ROA...) allow you to sleep through anything. These alone would probably do it, but the other component that allows compressing this whole process into the shortest period of time (say, a weekend) is buprenorphine - which is a bit harder to come by. I don't advise asking for this one, try to source it elsewhere. If used while still somewhat under the influence of other opiates can and will throw you into something called 'precipitated withdrawal' - which is nothing anyone should ever experience (at least not while awake). Typically a 24-36hr period combining these two would almost always render me well enough to maintain by monday. Depending upon the length of your dependency, you may experience PAWS for several weeks after detoxing. This is where a mild, long half-life benzo such as clonazepam can be useful - or at the least, some grass.

Going through the whole CT without these tools, and surviving it, is entirely doable, but most unpleasant. Just be sure to remind yourself that no matter how bad you may feel, it will not kill you. Benzo WD, on the other hand, most certainly can - so taper off that forementioned benzo quickly and only use it as needed. After you've made it through the process, be sure to remind yourself that you do not ever want to do that again. Because, fair warning, they get progressively worse each time - just trust me on that one.

I wish you the best of luck with it. Ramble on.
 
Does Tylenol W/ Codeine help for W/D at all?

Yes, if you cold water extract it so you're only taking Codeine Phosphate, and dose it right doing a very fast taper over the withdrawal period. I used it coming off of a long-term H habit a coupla times and it made it very bearable. I've never used Oxy so your timescale and mileage may vary, but I started low dose day 1, upped dose a little day 2 and again day 3 as withdrawal peaked to a max dose of 240mg, then cut dose hard and fast day 4/5/6 aiming to be taking nothing day 7. The idea is you take just enough to cut the very worst symptoms, without dosing so high as to interfere with withdrawal or prolong the detox. Course it will inevitably slow the detox to some extent cos you're trading comfort for speed, and you're better doing it without an opiate, but if you find you can't cut it cold turkey even with the other meds you manage to get hold of and have to bail out it may make a future detox easier for you.
 
well i have a suboxone taper method planned out. the thing is, it is going to take over 4 months to get down to the jump off point. Even though I'm on a pretty low dose, suboxone makes me feel soooo dulll that I rather go through opiate withdrawals than stay on it (being as depressed as I am atm). I was thinking maybe a rapid taper using clonazepam for the first week of classes. Then using kratom for the next few weeks all the while going for short runs, lifting intermittently.
 
^That's probably the better plan, as Tommyboy mentioned, they'll quickly label you as a "drug user" and you'll have a hard time getting anything (really, anything, like codeine for a cough) from them again.
 
well i have a suboxone taper method planned out. the thing is, it is going to take over 4 months to get down to the jump off point. Even though I'm on a pretty low dose, suboxone makes me feel soooo dulll that I rather go through opiate withdrawals than stay on it (being as depressed as I am atm). I was thinking maybe a rapid taper using clonazepam for the first week of classes. Then using kratom for the next few weeks all the while going for short runs, lifting intermittently.

4 months to taper? you could take a mg of sub 3 days into the wd's and it will make it easier on you then cold turkey. i think you have been misinformed.
 
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