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Hallucinogen with no mind f**k

XTC_fiend

XTC_fiend

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I have much experience with many drugs such as: pot, coke, heroin, PCP, Salvia, lots and lots of DXM, benzos ( mostly k-pins and xanax), opiates of all kinds, and sythetic cannabanoids... which are the s**t.

But most recently i had two experiences with 2C-E and was the worst two experiences of my life.
I almost killed myself both two times while under the influence of 2C-E.

My question to bluelight users is what is the most clear-minded hallucinogen out there?
 
I'm going to move this over to psychedelic drugs, we don't cover psychedelics in BDD :) hope that's okay.

BDD > PD
 
May I ask how exactly did those 2c-e trips go for you? That sounds pretty alarming man.
2ce has always been pretty damn good to me.
 
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well i dropped 20 mg my first time then 15 mg my second time.
ill explain how the trip went.

I started to come up ever so fast and felt so so so much better than Molly which is my fav. then once the visuals came in i started to be worried. everything i looked at crawled toward me. i looked at the ground and the cracks in the tiles turned to worms and started climbing up my feet. i ran into the bathroom and looked at myself in the mirror which scared the shit out of me because my eyes were gone. i then was stuck in a small bathroom tripping balls for the next 6 hours and locked myself in there (accidentally) while violently throwing up for the duration of the trip. both two times this happened but the visuals were different. but the scariest part is when i was watching spongebob and the sand fell through the tv and covered me to the point where i could not breathe.

all i can say is 2C-E gave me waves of mind fucks and i was too confused to even know what was going on.. maybe because that was my first psychadelic and that is most def a strong one even to experienced psychonauts.
 
Wow, I've only taken 2C-E once (lots of LSD, mushies in the past, some 2C-B, etc), but it was one of the most visual, but light-hearted (and headed) things I've tried. If anything, my one complaint was the LACK of the analytical mindset that I'm accustomed to with LSD.
 
that is quite odd as my psychonaut friends that are bery experienced had horrible trips with 2C-E. it has too much of a body load too much of a confusion factor on my brain. but the coolest thing was being able to see the sound waves of the music coming toward me and cutting through me. easily the coolest thing ive seen ever.
 
Now body-load I'll agree with. I snorted my 10mg dose, and instantly had to shit, then didn't, then piss. nope. vomit! nope not that either anymore. It cycled through this throughout the beginning of the experience where my body just didn't know wtf it wanted to do. That was my least "favorite" part of the experience.

Edit: I also began tripping immediately upon insufflation of the compound. Zero time between sniff and trip. Took me by surprise as other than smoking a chem, only bumping Ketamine kicks in quickly for me, and even that's a very measurable 5-7 minutes.
 
You took quite high doses that's the issue. People have had ++++ experiences with ego death from as little as 15mg. Some people like myself can delve into higher doses without being overwhelmed, but even then - only sometimes, I've been overwhelmed by 15mg before.

I'd recommend taking say 10mg if you were to try 2C-E again, as 2C-E has very little in the way of mindfuck unless you really overdo the dose.

We can't tell you what to take or what not to take but in terms of low mindfuck, for tryptamines, 4-HO-MET is another compound people find to be lighthearted, recreational, and without much in the way of mindfuck or any seriousness to it :)

These threads might help you by the way:
The Most Gentle Psychedelic Thread
The Most Recreational/Euphoric/Social Psychedelic Thread
The Least Anxiogenic Psychedelic Thread

Hope this helps.
 
thank you all three threads helped out a lot. im thinking of trying a low dose of 4-ho-met
have you had any low dose 4-ho-met experiences? if so how did that end up for you?
 
2c-b is always a good smiling time for me, nothing threatening at all about that one.. Though I haven't tried it personally TMA-6 seems to be one with a "drunken" mindstate, no deep threatening thoughts there (apparently).

Good luck on your search, I posted a similar thread after a disaster trip and have had some very pleasant trips since then.
 
An NBOMe would be the way to go. Both 25i and 25c in my experience have exerted much less mindfuck than most of the 2Cs, all while being a fantastic halluciogen. The trip was just a colorful lightshow each and every time. Get them in 'units' if you don't have a scale that can measure by the milligram, though.
 
Yea 2C-E can be very mind fucky... it has a unique effect I call "thought fractals" [thoughts branching from thoughts branching from thoughts etc that eventually "unwind" in reverse order) that felt like hours but lasted only several minutes (you can get alot of thinking done on those in a short timeframe... very amazing and cool IMO) but I can see how for some that could get confusing and dark]

2C-I on the other hand ALWAYS (for me anyway) seems very mind-forgiving, almost like it quiets and calms confusing thoughts and words... I call it "Zen in a pill" sometimes... colors glistening, trails trailing, a beautiful "cosmic" feel embracing me, but not a single silly thought in my fool head, just sitting there breathing in and out all the magnificence!
 
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Dexed said:
An NBOMe would be the way to go. Both 25i and 25c in my experience have exerted much less mindfuck than most of the 2Cs, all while being a fantastic halluciogen. The trip was just a colorful lightshow each and every time. Get them in 'units' if you don't have a scale that can measure by the milligram, though.
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Good info, thanks, I guess I better grab some of these before they ban them too, sounds marvelous, just what the doctor ordered! :D
 
It isn't really the drug, it's you. Some people can have a hard time on any psychedelic drug - the drug brings 50% and you bring the other 50%.

If you went crazy as a shithouse rat on 2c-e then I'd stay away from psychedelics for a while or try very, very low doses.
 
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