Let the taxpayer buy the Queen a new yacht says Tory

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Yes, of course I'm a lucky sperm in many senses when compared to most people on this earth. It doesn't mean I'm not entitled to gripe about the royals, though.

I think it's absolutely possible for Britain to make the transition to a republic, or even to hang onto a monarch for whatever reasons if we really do need one to keep the tourists happy. I'm not suggesting a mob with pitchforks approach is the way forward.

That figure of £38 million is seriously wide of the mark, by the way. It's the palace's own and makes no allowance for basics like the cost of protection.

Do you have any figures to back this up? Or shall we just assume, because it helps our argument, that it costs the rest of the £160 million we make off of her? lol

It would cost us millions if not billions to make the transition to a republic, and I don't really see what we gain apart from a greater sense of equality. The fact would remain that we would have no real equality, and people would just whinge when someone from Eton gets the job. There is no such thing as equality any way; If you're the first child then you have greater life chances than the younger, lets follow China and make sure everyone only has one to make it fairer aye

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Yeah, all those diamond miners we have in the UK

Yeah, you're right. I've thought about it and as we have no diamond miners I reckon being Queen is pretty much the most uneviable job in the UK. I was going to apply but I've seen minimum wage toilet cleaning jobs (on some royal yacht or something) so I'm going for that instead.

 

[Myshkin]

Yeah, all those diamond miners we have in the UK

Where did I say there were any?

All I was pointing out was that if you put it into perspective it's not really a gruelling or demanding job in the slightest.

Yeah, you're right. I've thought about it and as we have no diamond miners I reckon being Queen is pretty much the most uneviable job in the UK. I was going to apply but I've seen minimum wage toilet cleaning jobs (on some royal yacht or something) so I'm going for that instead.

Exactly.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Yeah, you're right. I've thought about it and as we have no diamond miners I reckon being Queen is pretty much the most uneviable job in the UK. I was going to apply but I've seen minimum wage toilet cleaning jobs (on some royal yacht or something) so I'm going for that instead.

I would much rather do a toilet cleaning job than be King... Just imagine the forore when I got caught smoking a spliff like poor ol' Harry. At least I get to go home after a long day at work to privacy and my family. Plus, you are assuming that the toilet cleaner can't do better than that. This isn't the Indian caste system, they weren't born to do that job.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

And isn't it meant to be Labour who waste public money?

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

I would much rather do a toilet cleaning job than be King... Just imagine the forore when I got caught smoking a spliff like poor ol' Harry.

Huh?

You mean Harry gets let off while you (the bog cleaner) have a chance of a criminal record?

 

[Myshkin]

This isn't the Indian caste system, they weren't born to do that job.

Erm... am I the only one whose irony bell just went into overdrive? :D

So our beloved Head of State qualifies for the job on what grounds?

 

[jancrow]

I would hazzard a guess that you and I are lucky sperm compared to the rest of the world too, just to a lesser extent than the Royal Family. If you think it is a possibility to not only depose the Royal Family, and then seize their estates which they own by law, then good luck with that.

Yes, of course I'm a lucky sperm in many senses when compared to most people on this earth. It doesn't mean I'm not entitled to gripe about the royals, though.

I think it's absolutely possible for Britain to make the transition to a republic, or even to hang onto a monarch for whatever reasons if we really do need one to keep the tourists happy. I'm not suggesting a mob with pitchforks approach is the way forward.

That figure of £38 million is seriously wide of the mark, by the way. It's the palace's own and makes no allowance for basics like the cost of protection.

I don't see your point really. She would pretty much get to keep her whole estate if she was dethroned.

How? I don't think there's a precedent we can emulate here, it's something we've never done before.

I have outlined to you that the Queen is in fact in profit from our perpective, which is more than any other country on the planet can say.

Perhaps the queen is turning us a profit. My beef isn't so much with her as with the rest of her family. Perhaps we really do need a queen to draw the crowds- perhaps we'd actually be better off if her various estates, palaces and castles were accessible to fee-paying tourists.

So, whilst you contend that those who want her to stay do it to feel fuzzy and warm, I would suggest it is more of an illogical hatred of being born into wealth and comfort on your part.

I think you have me miscast. I was born into wealth and comfort compared not only to most of the rest of the world but most of the rest of this country. I just don't believe that one family should have access to so much wealth, treasure and blind veneration for doing so very little.

Do you have any figures to back this up? Or shall we just assume, because it helps our argument, that it costs the rest of the £160 million we make off of her? lol

I'm having a dig around, meanwhile I want you to cost up the transition to a republic as I'm not convinced by

millions if not billions

.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Where did I say there were any?

All I was pointing out was that if you put it into perspective it's not really a gruelling or demanding job in the slightest.



Exactly.

I think I can unequivocally say that there aren't many jobs in the UK I wouldn't rather do than be a Royal.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Huh?

You mean Harry gets let off while you (the bog cleaner) have a chance of a criminal record?

No, I mean that Harry can't toke up in peace and quiet without some cunt jumping out with a camera. He wasn't caught by the police...

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Its ok MSB, party line has changed, you don't need to defend this shit anymore.

Downing St rejects yacht as inappropriate

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Erm... am I the only one whose irony bell just went into overdrive? :D

Unconscious mind's a funny old thing.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Erm... am I the only one whose irony bell just went into overdrive? :D

So our beloved Head of State qualifies for the job on what grounds?

Hold all the interviews you want, you'll only throw your toys out of your pram when an Etonian gets the job. I prefer having a Queen, who is pretty a-political, who just gets the job done, and who we can rely on for her life time. It provides stability.

 

[hx_]

whilst performing their duties?

Give them an unlimited bus pass and £20 max to spend on food per day and be done with it. most people fucking live off less than that! And most people buy their lunch out of their own wages.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Its ok MSB, party line has changed, you don't need to defend this shit anymore.

Downing St rejects yacht as inappropriate

I don't look at the party line before I make my decision. If only you could pull your head out of the Guardian for 10 seconds and do basic maths, this debate would go so much more smoothly.

 

[jancrow]

I prefer having a Queen, who is pretty a-political, who just gets the job done, and who we can rely on for her life time. It provides stability.

This just comes across as nebulous guff of the same ilk as 'support our troops' whenever there's a war. How do we 'support our troops'? Send them socks and tins of Ovaltine? The best support I could possibly offer is the heartfelt wish that they were at home with their loved ones instead of being shot at.

PS You also make her sound like Ronseal.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

I don't look at the party line before I make my decision. If only you could pull your head out of the Guardian for 10 seconds and do basic maths, this debate would go so much more smoothly.

Excuse me? You're the one talking about 'pulling your head out' and 'throwing your toys out the pram'. They are the only non-smooth bits I see. What are you accusing me of exactly? Reading?

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

This just comes across as nebulous guff of the same ilk as 'support our troops' whenever there's a war. How do we 'support our troops'? Sending them socks and tins of Ovaltine? The best support I could possibly offer is the heartfelt wish that they were at home with their loved ones instead of being shot at.

PS You also make her sound like Ronseal.

There is nothing hazy about it. Not changing head of states every 5 years means that greater bonds can be made internationally over time. It also stops the top position becoming horrendously party political - for instance, Sarkozy is up for election next year. So what is he doing? He's trying to play tough in Europe, being a total dick, which ruins France's repuation. Neblous enough for you?

 

[Myshkin]

Hold all the interviews you want, you'll only throw your toys out of your pram when an Etonian gets the job.

Don't tell me you've lapsed into self-parody already...

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Excuse me? You're the one talking about 'pulling your head out' and 'throwing your toys out the pram'. They are the only non-smooth bits I see. What are you accusing me of exactly? Reading?

Well you accused me of simply jumping in to support anything the conservatives say and do, which is not the case. You on the other hand can't help sounding like a Guardianista. It's not the fact you read, it's the fact you read reenforcing liberal mumbo jumbo, and seemingly refuse to interact with any other sources of information that might challenge you.