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Taking tramadol every day.

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GordanMilky

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Hi there i was prescribed tramacet(with apap, 37.5-325mg) for chronic pain issues. offered codeine but id rather have this . Doc said to take 2 every 4 hours, so im taking between 4-6 every day. Im going to be on this for at least 3 months if not more. Will i be totally dependent on this in 3 months time? Im thinking of taking it every 2 days but that = half of my days being shitty and half of them in a good mood.
 
You could become a bit dependent on them but nothing a gentle taper down couldn't ease when your done taking them which is what one normally does when taking medications for an extended period of time. I wouldn't compromise your comfort now to worry about something that can be for the most part made comfortable when you no longer need them. Take care!
 
I took 150mg daily for over 4 months. its not a really good pain killer but its SNRI effects make it an excellent antidepressant. way better than any other SNRI/SSRI Ive take. Its suppose to be very similar to the antidepressant Effexor. u'll get a nice mood lift. it's actally similar to mdma. well nowhere near as euphoric but if id have to compare it to a steet drug that would be the one.
If u wanna take em recreationally I find 150-300mg is perfect. any more is to stimulating to me.
u may also wanna know that the opiod effect is stronger if u spread out the doses throughout the day. not sure why that is. something to do with the SNRI not out weighing the opiod effect or something like that.

anyways. Id ve more concerned about the APAP. taking even 1g of apap a day is bad for ya liver. drs tell u it's not but read up on wikipedia about apap. there was a study where a lady took 1g of apap a day for a year or something & it actually had done a little bit of damage. but 3 months should be fine. If u wanna do more than 3 pills do a cwe. only has to be a quick one cuz ya not dealing with alot of apap so no need for a coffee filter. just dissolve the pills in 50mLs of water or so, place a hanky over a bowl, stir the water, tip it over the hanky & squeeze the water out into the bowl. make sure u wet the hanky first though so none of the water gets obsorbed into the hanky

unfortunetely tramadol isnt very good for pain but it's the best antidepressant ive tried.

btw never take more than 400mg of tramadol a day cuz it is the threshold for seizures. not sure what causes the seizures & u probably wouldnt get one unless u took like 2 grams or something but better safe than sorry. besides taking over 400mg is to stimulating anyways. ya dont wanna be restless

as for ya Q, i found tramadol fairly easy to quit but I did have valium at the time. just taper for a week or 2 of ya havng problems & i wont get any w/d.

as for ya pain problems. maybe when it's really bad u could cwe some codeine
 
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Please take my word now - tramadol is NOT easy to come off of. If your taking a decent dose (150-200 mg) and then you abruptly end using, you will experience opiate withdrawal to a degree. As if opiate withdrawal in itself is not a bitch, tramadol cessation will also trigger an SSRI withdrawal on par with the stoppage of Effexor (an SSRI anti-D with notorious withdrawals). These two withdrawals will compound to make for a withdrawal just not even worth living through. It is hell. Keep this in mind.
 
yeah, after using for 4.5 months i had to taper for 10 days or so i think cant remember. may have been 2weeks. it was easy. no w/d at all. but I was only taking 200mg a day at that point & my secret to getting off it so easy was good old valium

a few months later I used tramadol for only a week I when i stopped the w/d were horrible. it wasnt so much the opiod effect, it was the brain zaps ya get from SNRI w/d not very nice. was stuck in bed.

so yeah get some valium. just dont fucken get hooked on the valium!
 
I know some one with a chronic back condition that keeps re-occurring, in that I disc in his upper back fails and they have to operate through his neck (from the front, , I'll have to find out what the condition is) anyhow he has been on and off Tramadol, DHC and at points morphine patches for the last 3 years. Every time they fix it it just starts to get better and another one goes and they don't seem to know why.

He reckons the WDs haven't been to bad but he is also very careful to only ever take just enough to deal with the pain, which is always less than he is being prescribed. I assume the WD's are going to vary quite a bit from person to person, but I'd advise keeping any doses of the opiate based stuff as low as you can whilst still giving you some quality of life, he finds the Tramadol good for pain buy YMMV

I would also agree with the above there no way I'd take APAP daily, if your in tat much pain I can't see the point you may a well stick to the Tramadol straight your going to have to taper from it anyhow.

Can you CWE Tramadol?? assume so or you wouldn't have posted it, my mate gets Tramadol and DHC on its own

I'm on 150mgs of Effexor (Venlafaxine) and am way more functional that this guy, it may well have SNRI and other antidepressant qualities but the opioid effects see way to strong to make it really a viable alternative as an AD, but that is only from my very limited experience.
 
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Yeah you probably will be dependent on it but again like others said you can just taper off of it. Don't just stop taking it because it's like stopping an anti-depressant cold turkey which is something you shouldn't do. I went cold turkey from tramadol (lol yeah how hypocritical) but its because I ran out of it and was like fuck it I'm not buying this crap that doesn't even get me high. It wasn't bad and I felt better after a couple of days. That was after a couple months of using it. So I don't think it will be hard for you to get off of it especially if you taper down.
 
Thanks for all the advice. In amonth im going to ask for dr for straight tramadol without apap. Yeh i asked for tramadol instead of codeine for the SNRI properties. I feel great on it, almost finally feel normal. Compared to codeine which i feel very little from except an upset gut. Glad i dont have to worry to much about the dependance. Do you think a doctor would prescribe valium for a short period of time if i say its for coming off tramadol? Valium+weening off of course.
 
Tramadol is very under-rated IMO, 100 mg is great for me, another 100 mg later in the evening is even better. Taking it for 3 months almost guarantees dependence, and risks addiction. Also, be careful with the APAP, don't be taking too much, you need that liver.
 
tramadol withdrawals are still pretty unpleasant, I'd be willing to bet that you will need/want it if you can get it.

3 months of daily use is enough time to leave you feeling at the very least seriously uncomfortable when you do come off.

no-apap is the way to go also, gotta look out for your liver.
 
Very hard drug to withdraw from.

Effexor withdrawal was exactly as bad as klonopin withdrawal for me.

Imagine having an opiate withdrawal on top of all that?

I'd pass.


If I needed something like that for pain I'd probably just acquire O-Desmethyl Tramadol without the serotonergic and adrenergic effects that tramadol comes with.
 
Please keep this discussion on topic, I don't like having to unapprove stuff.

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If I needed something like that for pain I'd probably just acquire O-Desmethyl Tramadol without the serotonergic and adrenergic effects that tramadol comes with.
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This isn't the best idea, mostly because O-DT withdrawals are not going to be any easier to deal with than tramadol withdrawals. In fact I'd be willing to bet they are just as difficult to deal with, if not a little more intense in some senses.

Not to mention the fact that tramadol comes in convenient pre-pressed and packaged dosages, (doubly convenient when trying to taper) while O-DT comes as a bulk powder. Plus, it is bound to be infinitely more expensive.

OP, while it isn't going to be a walk in the park coming off of tramadol after 3 months of daily use, you should be able to manage with a proper taper. Especially if your doctor is willing to pad your fall, so to speak.
 
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tramadol withdrawals are still pretty unpleasant, I'd be willing to bet that you will need/want it if you can get it.

3 months of daily use is enough time to leave you feeling at the very least seriously uncomfortable when you do come off.

no-apap is the way to go also, gotta look out for your liver.
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Yeah I went cold turkey and I mean it was better to me than getting off oxycontin but I still felt pretty sick. I went to prom withdrawing from tramadol, yeah was such a good time /: I mean it gets better after a few days or so but I wouldn't advise anyone else to become dependent on it. Not everyones been through really bad withdrawals and I'm sure the OP hasn't.....so a tramadol one will probably be their worst ever. Like I said before you'll be fine but I'm not saying it won't suck.
 
I used 100-300mg per day every day without fail for 2.5 months, quit cold turkey. I was an absolute son of a bitch to anyone that came near and felt like shit for about a week and a bit. Friends with benzos and weed helped, but unfortunately both were in fairly short supply. Not something I want to experience again.
 
Please Please Please take it from me, I have withdrawn from oxycodone and oxymorphone and Buprenorphine, the oxy habits were tiny so I guess they don't really count.. but when I was using bupe it was about 5mg a day for about 4 months straight I withdrew from that one for about a month and a half straight and still neither of these experiences came close to sucking nearly as bad as when I come off of 15 50 mg a day tramadol habit.. just horrible horrible feeling like there was no way to even possibly imagine walking across the room much less doing anything... it's something you Really want to steer clear of
 
750mg/day of Tramadol is an absurd dose, considering it's actual effects on the body. Why were you taking so much?
 
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