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Opioids Opoids: percocet doesn't do much for me - should I try others or give up?

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GumbyClaymation

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As stated in the title, percocet does very little to me. 5 pills (25 mg total) orally only puts me at a +1.5. Not even really enjoyable - kinda feel like I drank too much water. I've also tried 8 or so T3s with almost no noticable effect.

Not only was there no recreational value, neither seemed to do much for the pain for which they were prescribed. Fortunately, the pain was only temporary and it was bearable without meds.

The opiate high sounds like something I'd like to experience once or.twice in my life. Am I destined to not feel it? I've considered buying opana or even heroin, but.don't want to waste my money on something that won't work either.

I know some people will jump on the heroin idea, but I am very confident in my ability to not get hooked between limited supply, family obligations and workplace testing there's enough controls that I couldn't go score some more if I wanted.

One more qualification - I'm not going.to try iv or im anything. Will snort, plug or chew/swallow. Is there anything I might try? I'm not on any meds or drugs on a regular basis.j


Thanks for reading!
 
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Opiates aren't for everybody. You mentioned a "+1.5". If you're trying to measure opiate experiences using a psychedelic experience scale, you're way off.

I really wouldn't take more if you don't enjoy smaller doses. Do not do heroin, oxymorphone or other more powerful opiates if you don't like Percocets.
 
ha ha - You're right. Psychadelics are my favorites. What I mean by the +1.5 is that I could feel a little off, but couldn't characterize it. I wouldn't say that I don't like percocet so much as I haven't truly experienced it. I can be a hardhead sometimes, so that's why I wonder if I should.take more.or take.something stronger.

The stuff I read about pure bliss and the feeling of being covered in a blanket of warmth seems like.something not.to be missed.

Thanks for the.reply!
 
Be sure to watch the dose of tylenol (acetaminophen, apap) when taking percocets, tylenol 3's, or any other pain meds that have it. The maximum single dose is 3000mgs, and the max total daily dose is 4000mgs. Anything above those is risking damage to the liver, so be sure to do a CWE if you require an opiate dose that is combined with a larger dose of tylenol than the max.
 
Well if you're used to psychedelic buzzes, opiates and opioids will not deliver. With 0 tolerance five percs should get you pretty stoned. After 9months completely clean two hydrocodone pills got me wasted he same as sniffing a bag of dope would. Some people just don't like the opiate buzz, or just don't really feel such a difference, maybey just sedated and/or nauseous. It's usually good for people that are stressed out or feel sort of uncomfortable in some way (that is a generalization of course) . For me, when I tried heroin for the first time I was real stressed out, and socially awkward. Heroin fucking changed my life because of that. But I've noticed with some people, they just don't get that feeling of all consuming contentness and just find it boring. Those people tend to like benzo's more in my experience.

I say count it as a blessing that you didnt enjoy the oxy, and forget about the heroin and oxymorphone, it's pretty much more of the same when you're sniffing/plugging/parachutting, just stronger.
 
Up your doses. 25mg of Oxycodone sometimes isn't enough even for the opiate-naive. When I first started opiates I was doing 40mg of oxycodone (8 percs). So before you give up altogether, try oxycodone at 40-50mg (this is safe). Codeine is useless for many, even the first time.
 
You are either a natural hard-head or you simply don't like the opioid experience as much as some people seem to. 8 tylenol 3's should have most people pretty tanked (8x30mg= 240mg codeine).

If you're already dosing 25mg of oxycodone and you don't like it, then you probably shouldn't pursue it any further. You're liable to 1. increase your tolerance and 2. end up with bad side-effects if you misjudge your dosing. Stick to psychedelics, IMO.

You may consider trying codeine (or morphine) again though. Those are generally the "gold standard" opioids - some people have bad experiences with the semi-synthetics like oxycodone etc. Stay away from high-potency opis like heroin etc unless you really know what you're doing.
 
Well shit, that really bursts my bubble. The opiate high sounds so awesome. Instead of complaining, I guess I should be happy that my life is so good that opiates have no burden to take away. Maybe I'll try again as suggested with the leftover scripts I have and be extra vigilant. It seems the general consensus is that if those don't do much for me, then heroin or opana are sure to disappoint. I was thinking it would be more like a caffeine vs methamphetamine relationship. Whereas I can drink a 6 pack of coke and go to sleep, if I snort some crystal meth, I sure as hell know what's up. Incorrect analogy?

Thanks all for the thoughtful replies.
 
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You are either a natural hard-head or you simply don't like the opioid experience as much as some people seem to. 8 tylenol 3's should have most people pretty tanked (8x30mg= 240mg codeine).

If you're already dosing 25mg of oxycodone and you don't like it, then you probably shouldn't pursue it any further. You're liable to 1. increase your tolerance and 2. end up with bad side-effects if you misjudge your dosing. Stick to psychedelics, IMO.

You may consider trying codeine (or morphine) again though. Those are generally the "gold standard" opioids - some people have bad experiences with the semi-synthetics like oxycodone etc. Stay away from high-potency opis like heroin etc unless you really know what you're doing.
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You aren't taking into account that he could weigh a lot, have resistance, or just be a poor metabolizer (especially when we're talking 'codone's). 25mg of Oxy or any amount of codeine is simply not enough for many people, this isn't as much of a rarity as you make it seem.

Codeine and morphine are actually two of the lesser liked opiates. Why? Because of their extreme histamine effects. Itching, nausea, etc is all way more prevalent with these two opiates.
 
That's a good point, and I suppose that the opioid buzz is a lot more subtle with drugs like oxycodone, if you don't know what to really look for. The first opiate I ever tried was heroin so the buzz was very pronounced, as sniffing a bag of heroin will get any opiate naive person very high. The second one I tried was codeine and tramadol at the same time, (this was before I was dependent and had a tolerance), and again I got pretty high, but for some reason, around the same time I tried taking both Vicodin and Percocet, and I felt the buzz was more subtle for some reason. And could only tell that I was high once it had peaked and I began nodding. It wasn't till a few years later and after some months clean from all opiates that I was able to get high on a low dosage of hydrocodone, and by that time I knew exactly what to look for. All that being said, with the amounts the op has used I find it hard to believe that he simply did not take enough. It's just like I said earlier, it's not for everyone
 
I am going to go 'against the grain' here and say you might research heroin. However, I would only consider it if you know someone experienced that can show you the ropes. Although, if you find no enjoyment in oxy I doubt you will 'get' heroin. I find a heroin high (when sniffed) to be a lot more sedating and no where close to having the stimulating properties of hydro or oxy.

Another pharmaceutical I would recommend giving a whirl is Hydromorphone (Dilaudid), if you can find them. Have about 3 or 4 of the 2mg ready and snort one at a time, leaving a couple minutes in between. The high hits hard and fast and doesn't last very long at all. A lot of people consider snorting these a waste, but even with a tolerance, I find sniffing 18mg AMAZING.

If that doesn't do anything or you don't like the buzz I would just hang it up for now. Your bank account will thank you.
 
GumbyClaymation said:
As stated in the title, percocet does very little to me. 5 pills (25 mg total) orally only puts me at a +1.5. Not even really enjoyable - kinda feel like I drank too much water. I've also tried 8 or so T3s with almost no noticable effect.

Not only was there no recreational value, neither seemed to do much for the pain for which they were prescribed. Fortunately, the pain was only temporary and it was bearable without meds.

The opiate high sounds like something I'd like to experience once or.twice in my life. Am I destined to not feel it? I've considered buying opana or even heroin, but.don't want to waste my money on something that won't work either.

I know some people will jump on the heroin idea, but I am very confident in my ability to not get hooked between limited supply, family obligations and workplace testing there's enough controls that I couldn't go score some more if I wanted.

One more qualification - I'm not going.to try iv or im anything. Will snort, plug or chew/swallow. Is there anything I might try? I'm not on any meds or drugs on a regular basis.j


Thanks for reading!
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Yeah, but once you have that first heroin high, you'll probably NEVER go back to the "lesser" opiates.
Does NOT matter if you have limited sources, a busy work life, or limited cash supply.
You will throw all the things that should inhibit your use out the window.

The opiate high that you're trying to achieve is, indeed, incredible.
However, don't fool yourself by saying you only want to TRY it!
We ALL wanted to TRY it!
And a lot of us ended up "trying" it hundreds or thousands of times.

And I know you're not "planning" on IV as a ROA, but very few do plan that, and before they (including ME) know it, you're shooting up in a gas station bathroom in a sketchy place in the city, shaking with frustration because you CAN'T hit any veins that don't even exist now.

Excuse me if I sound a bit harsh! Not my intention, I just felt it necessary to give you a fair warning.
Just think about it. What I have given to you as MY advice was the advice given to ME.
And I pretended to take the advice, but my plans were already made; I was going to TRY it.
Then I tried it again and again, and repeat x193573207584.

Be careful, no mattter what.
It is only human nature to seek activities to engage in that cause us to FEEL GOOD.
Some of us just couldn't see how something that felt so good could feel SO bad,
Until its too late.

Again, no harsh feelings. These are just my opinions.
I am not trying to bash you in any way.
Take care ;)
 
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strigoi said:
I am going to go 'against the grain' here and say you might research heroin. However, I would only consider it if you know someone experienced that can show you the ropes. Although, if you find no enjoyment in oxy I doubt you will 'get' heroin. I find a heroin high (when sniffed) to be a lot more sedating and no where close to having the stimulating properties of hydro or oxy.

Another pharmaceutical I would recommend giving a whirl is Hydromorphone (Dilaudid), if you can find them. Have about 3 or 4 of the 2mg ready and snort one at a time, leaving a couple minutes in between. The high hits hard and fast and doesn't last very long at all. A lot of people consider snorting these a waste, but even with a tolerance, I find sniffing 18mg AMAZING.

If that doesn't do anything or you don't like the buzz I would just hang it up for now. Your bank account will thank you.
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I don't know if I agree with this, suggesting heroin to someone with no opioid tolerance seems like just a way to jack up your tolerance unnecessarily high, and it's not often too easy to find a "responsible heroin using friend" to show you the ropes. I remember I had one of those friends in a rehab no less, first time I shot heroin, he insisted on doing a three bag shot, and I fell right down on my ass haha.. I don't know I've shot oxy with a pretty low tolerance, did about 60mg and it felt as sedating as heroin to me. If you really want to try opioids again just take more oxy, that way by the time your doing 100+mg of oxy a day you can then switch to heroin for a slightly better more economical and dangerous high!
 
Well like poeple already said, 25 mg of oxy is not THAT much, you have developed a tolerance which means you need to increase your dose. I suggest scoring OC's if you can becuase there is no acetaminophen to worry about and they come in much higher mg, unlike percosets which are only 5mg per pill OC's goes as high as 80 mg of oxycodone in one.
 
The heroin suggestion was overboard. However I don't see where Dilaudid would be irresponsible. I don't see anyone OD'ing off of snorting 1 - 2mg dilly.

This site is about harm reduction, and the ONLY safe advice for this fellow is 'Don't abuse any opiates!'. As a non-user, what do you expect to gain? You will get buzzed now and then, but using is expensive, looked down upon and you risk legal, physical and mental problems by using.

Best of luck and I apologize to those who were offended by my input
 
One often forgets the subtlty of an opiate experience. Some people are very keen to notice the opiate's effects, and take to liking them immediately. Others don't really "get" opiates for the first few times, or sometimes for even longer than that. Opiates are subtle, even when they're intense. That is a weird concept, but it is very true. Don't go on to stronger opiates or higher doses, just wait a little while, and try about the same dose (or even less), and go into with a very unexpecting mindset. Let the opiate roll over you.
 
Important notice: My first 4 times doing Oxycodone were NOTHING like my 5th time, i have no idea what happened, maybe the right brain receptors were found at some point and ever since ive been in absolute love with any opiates I can get my hands on, so dont give up yet its quite an amazing high once you get it.
 
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