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10th Issue Heroin Discussion v. Racist Dogs, Dog

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Johnny blue said:
Yep the US government and even local and state officials are all about making money on drug law enforcement. There was a TV show recently about "moonshiners" and just watching it pissed me off. There is just no good reason why the government would give a shit about people making booze other than for money.
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exactly what I was thinking. <3

and besides the suboxone im getting tomorrow, apparently im also getting 5 20mg adderall ir for a couple concert tickets. oh lord...l.
 
yeah you are right. i was doing pills for a few years and switched due to financial reasons... so it has been about 6 months at least shooting dope. i actually have about 8 suboxone pill from when i got some a few months back for a trip i had to take. and yeah they work and you are probably right i should take a break. easier said then done right... but yeah financially as we all do i am falling slowly. so that could be a good reason to take a week or two off. i think alot of it is the whole notion of the ritual of getting high. yes obviously the effects if you do not have opiates and need them you have some withdrawals but they whole thing about the process to get high is what keeps most addicts addicted at least IMO.

Tommyboy said:
Fantom: I thought that you had just recently picked up again, or am I mistaking you for somebody else. Try your best to break the physical dependence, it makes life so much more manageable. What about getting some suboxone to chill on for a while, which will both keep you from getting sick, lower your tolerance, save you money, and give your veins a rest, all at the same time. You can use it to detox too, so you won't be dependent anymore. Two 8mg subs go a long way. 4mgs should hold most people at first, and then you can lower the dose and take 1-2mgs every other day, or every 3 days even. It helps really well with the cravings too, and the last time I took it I still didn't have cravings for 2-3 days after my last dose of 2mgs.
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I just got the "Got that fire all day" text from one of my on-again-off-again dealers. Still not picking up any though, although I did slip up and grab some free oxy today. I haven't heard back from this job, so I was pissed off and said fuck it. I mean, I'm sure I would still be a week or so away from a drug test if/when they get back to me, but I'm still gonna stop again. I just had the oxy lying around, and I got fed up from not hearing back about the job, even after they said to call them if they didn't get back to me by now, and I called and didn't get an answer. That's some unprofessional shit right there, although it was a placement agency and not the actual company I was in contact with.
 
mmm, free anything sounds f'ing great!

I'm debating whether or not to take subs in the next week for a few days... or save em until I'm ready to 'move from heroin to suboxone or subutex'. I know I'm not ready to LONG TERM get off opiates like H and oxy/dilaudid/etc. However, I need to tone it down for FINANCIAL reasons. What would you suggest...or rather, how difficult is it to do H for a couple days, then go through a full day of 'mild to nasty'ish w/ds' then take subs for a couple or few days... then to back to H? Too difficult? Meh, I don't know why I bother even asking. I know I'll just end up wasting money on dilaudid when my oxy runs out... and use more H. The opposite of what I've been intending on doing... f'ing heroin. Love to hate it.
 
Dude I use oxy/heroin and then subs the next day all the time. As long as you're starting to feel WD you don't have to worry about precipitated WD. I know people freek about the possibility of precipitated WD but, after a while you just get it down. Tonight for example my last dose was at 8 and by tomorrow morning at 8 I'll dose sub and not even think twice about it. If you are worried about it cause you got shit to do then just wait until WD sets in but, I see no reason to WD for even a day if you have the subs.
 
^ I start off with .5-1mg of sub (sublingual) if I am every worried about precipitated withdrawal. I'd like to think that if it was too early to take the subs, I would only feel minor precipitated withdrawals (if there is such a thing). If I feel fine after 30 minutes of taking it, then I up the dose.
 
Yea subs can be a life saver for multiple reasons,help chill out on money tolerence, and just taking a much needed break, like iv said in past post this is like my 3ed week of doing dope and today I coped some an hour ago but also today ipicked up 4 subs imma get myself a nice bundle from good old camden tomorow and enjoy my weekend and then I'm gonna go on subs for a little bit, well that's the plan atleast but I'm excited got a nice payday coming and imma enjoy thhis weekend cause a bundle should last me Friday night and sat,then maybe buy 3 bags for Sunday or start the sub haven't desided that yet.but that's my weekend plan kick back with a friend and get merked how's your guys and girls weekend looking?what's your plans?
 
Sweet. I believe I'll definitely been switching to the sub for 2-3 days in the very near future. I have to do this. It's not goign to be all talk. I WILL have some 'I did it' sort of news in the next couple weeks. It'll be a major accomplishment. I miss feeling - 'normal'. :| Not like when I do h (or opiates in general) I just feel 'normal', but I mean normal like innocent little 13 year old me 'normal'. (what a long time ago...)

Thanks guys.
 
Yea subs can be a life saver for multiple reasons,help chill out on money tolerence, and just taking a much needed break, like iv said in past post this is like my 3ed week of doing dope and today I coped some an hour ago but also today ipicked up 4 subs imma get myself a nice bundle from good old camden tomorow and enjoy my weekend and then I'm gonna go on subs for a little bit, well that's the plan atleast but I'm excited got a nice payday coming and imma enjoy thhis weekend cause a bundle should last me Friday night and sat,then maybe buy 3 bags for Sunday or start the sub haven't desided that yet.but that's my weekend plan kick back with a friend and get merked how's your guys and girls weekend looking?what's your plans?
 
Sorry bout. The double post but other then what's your guys weekend plans? When you guys cop a bundle how many bags you get? Cause I know its diffrent everywhere and sometimes just diffrent everytime?
 
No such thing as bundles here in the Rock. Gel caps only and you buy em in the single if you buy 6 you get a free one. And lemme tell you its almost on par with oxy prices 1for1.
 
chi: 12-13 is the norm though my guy gets 14 sometimes and takes a bag. hope to hook up today for the weekend...

runtothehills said:
Sorry bout. The double post but other then what's your guys weekend plans? When you guys cop a bundle how many bags you get? Cause I know its diffrent everywhere and sometimes just diffrent everytime?
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a bun around here is 10-12 usually.

and today might be successful. getting some subs, 20mg addies, and i found a nug of trainwreck on my porch. yay!
 
mmm porch nugs. Its always good to just find something that gets you high.
Fantom thats a pretty good hook 12-13 bags. Its hard to find guys that actually do that anymore at least for me.
 
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puke said:
mmm porch nugs. Its always good to just find something that gets you high.
Fantom thats a pretty good hook 12-13 bags. Its hard to find guys that actually do that anymore at least for me.
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Are you coppin on the south or west side? 12-13 seems like the standard for everywhere i've been on the westside.
 
I usually shop on the westside but recently I've been buying from this dude out in the burbs and hes been ripping me off.
 
NY bundles are 10 bags, although there was a group putting out 11 bag bundles, and I have also had a connect that would sell between 10-12 bag bundles. He never mentioned that he was throwing more bags in, or how many, but half the time it was more than 10 bags in the bundle.
 
just got done work for the week took a trip up to camden cop a bundle dude said hed do 11 got the shit got on the road and its only ten, sucks cause not like your gonna go back and complaine to the dealers in the sets lol so its whatever, im in for a great friday night wit some friends and a bundle of jumper , really really good shit, so not too bad of a start to the weekend %) anyone here copin for the weekend or allready
 
Here in CT your standard bundle is 10 bags. Sometimes someone will be nice and throw in an extra bag or two, but that's always just a nice surprise. If it's less than 10 though, that's not right. If it's less than 10 bags you can speak up about it the next time you see the guy and you're not really out of line to do so...
 
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