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That's the general consensus, but as with all things people have reported different experiences.
 
I wouldn't say that redosing it is a waste of codeine, its really all about timing. I'm not very experienced in CWEs either (and I still moderate BDD ;)) but I'm sure somebody with a more definitive answer will chime in sooner or later :)
 
thanks for the grapefruit juice response and that one Pjkt2501 :) I don't think I've ever seen you on bl until today. I guess it is because I took december off from visiting BDD and that is when you joined, you've racked up a good post count in a month though :D

waiting for a phonecall from my doctor, so am not going to separate the CWE until after that as I don't want to be opiatedon the phone to her, will make my decision on how much of it to drink after the filtration is done.

I wouldn't say that redosing it is a waste of codeine, its really all about timing. I'm not very experienced in CWEs either (and I still moderate BDD ;)) but I'm sure somebody with a more definitive answer will chime in sooner or later :)

yeah, I know there is some pharmacological reason for it not being as efficient, but I don't know it. I'm gonna take your advice though NT and not take the whole lot in one go just for safetys sake, I can always take more, and a pack of co-codamol is so cheap that if it doesn't add much then there isn't much of a loss
 
Nonono, don't drink any grapefruit juice. You need the metabolism working, most of the effect comes from metabolites, don't take any inhibitors.
 
I didn't read everything...but I would wait on the GFJ because codeine is a pro-drug for morphine...I'd wait about 45 minutes after taking the codeine...
 
hmmm, two different opinions, I only drank a tiny amount of the GFJ, like about 100ml, will drink the rest after the CWE, if my doctor ever rings and I can get round to doing the filtration.
 
Interesting regarding the grapefruit: Would you not want to use it roughly an hour before hand BECAUSE of the CYP450 (or whatever it is) metabolite it blocks causing the potentiation effect?

I can rationalize both sides of the argument, just curious as to which is actually the case.

And Mugz, I've been lurking around since '09, just never signed up. :)
 
I'm thinking that maybe I should save the GFJ for when I redose as I'm not going to drink the whole CWE in one go, so it can potentiate the second dose, but the first dose will have all of the other effects that the other posters mentioned too. :)

and wish my doctor would fucking hurry up and phone me :X
 
Experience and question

Experience: so tried 60 mg of focalin with high amph tolerance is giving me small and minimal effects but is there. I have a high tolerance for uppers very high (280 mg of vyvanse is no prob 150 mg of Dex w/e) so that being said I tried focalin today. I took 60 mg since there is a cross tolerance between amphs and dextromethatlgjnxj whatever it's called.. But yeah not feeling it that much.

Question: considering i am barely affected my 60 mg and have a high tolerance.. How Manymore mg of focalin IR can I take in about 4 hours?
 

seriously, I had a GP appointment scheduled for an hour ago, but had to phone up and say I couldn't make it in this morning because I've got Norovirus or something and didn't want to spread it around, was told the doc would ring me at the appt time instead of me going in, a telephone consultation.

The GP surgery closes in half hour though and still no phonecall :(
 
Experience and question

Experience: so tried 60 mg of focalin with high amph tolerance is giving me small and minimal effects but is there. I have a high tolerance for uppers very high (280 mg of vyvanse is no prob 150 mg of Dex w/e) so that being said I tried focalin today. I took 60 mg since there is a cross tolerance between amphs and dextromethatlgjnxj whatever it's called.. But yeah not feeling it that much.

Question: considering i am barely affected my 60 mg and have a high tolerance.. How Manymore mg of focalin IR can I take in about 4 hours?

Might be time for a tolerance break...

bah, broken my abstinence from opiates... got ahold of some pure oxycodone, so damn happy :)3

Nice. Poppy seed tea and hydrocodone for me today. Although my grandma did just give me a nice bag of weed and a couple large chunks of hash, so it ain't all bad.
 
Oof, sorry :(

I used to call my old ket guy doc haha. Hey doc, can I get my tranq?

Ahh well. :)
 
how cloudy is too cloudy for the liquid from the CWE? I have a ton of clumpy paracetamol (APAP for yanks) in the filters, so am pretty sure I have almost all of it out. My CWE isn't too cloudy, although I can't see through it to the other side of the glass and there is a small amount of para(APAP) that snuck through and is now sitting at the bottom of the glass.

I have never had a perfectly clear CWE though.
 
Interesting regarding the grapefruit: Would you not want to use it roughly an hour before hand BECAUSE of the CYP450 (or whatever it is) metabolite it blocks causing the potentiation effect?

I can rationalize both sides of the argument, just curious as to which is actually the case.

Because codeine is metabolized into morphine by this pathway, inhibiting it (drinking GFJ) would slow the rate (and the amount) of codeine converted into morphine. Since morphine produces the desired effects, GFJ + codeine = no-no. At least that's how I've always understood it.

Mugz, the cloudiness is sometimes caused by other inactives (titanium dioxide? I can't remember which one exactly, it is a filler though that causes it) besides the APAP. You're CWEing OTC codeine, no?
 
oh yeah, that was one of the quiz questions this month actually wasn't it. It is in fact OTC codeine.

10 minutes till the docs surgery closes, if she hasn't phoned by then it is time for a very bitter drink, got a very sweet can of relentless open too to counteract the bitterness of the CWE when I get it into my mouth.
 
Ahh thanks Oxide, I understand the principal now. I was thinking of the WGFJ in reverse terms. Now I'm just confused where it's effective / useful :p

Synth: I usually blow it all, or if I can bring myself to do so, eat half.
 
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