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pennyj

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Hey everyone,

I've started doing mdma this year (a few times), always bombing 1/8 a gram in a screwed up cigarette paper for first dosage, doing same for 2nd or topping up with a bit of gumming.

The last couple of times I've had upset stomach as I've been coming up, and as I can get a bit of anxiety this makes me more worried. I can gag a lot (I think the paper irritates my insides), I've been sick, and I feel the urge to, er, relieve my bowels really strongly and have to rush to the bathroom. By the time I'm up the upset stomach and anxiety goes and second dose fine.

I was wondering whether this is just my muscles doing over time as the e kicks in (like when you tense up your hands etc) or more cause of the bombs? If the latter are there any alternatives? (not pills) My friend thinks that if I gum my first dose the come up might be shit, but since it's been a bit too much before could this be good?

Aside from that, is there anything you can mix crushed crystals with? Any food it could go into since it doesn't dissolve in liquids? I've heard snorting is really bad for your nose with md is this true?

Thanks!
 
Toilet paper also works very well for parachuting.

But yeah gelcaps are the easiest / cleanest way probably. I personally prefer the vegetarian variety. Cheap and easy to get.
 
If you have good stuff just eat it.

I had some molly on new years that tasted amazing, I ended up just putting it all on my finger and letting that shit sit in my mouth for a while. It will make you come up faster, if you dont wanna do that just drop it in some OJ, stir around and drink that shit!
 
Folley said:
If you have good stuff just eat it.

I had some molly on new years that tasted amazing, I ended up just putting it all on my finger and letting that shit sit in my mouth for a while. It will make you come up faster, if you dont wanna do that just drop it in some OJ, stir around and drink that shit!
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Won't it just sit on the edges of the bottle/cup that way?

I'm not sure if I wanna come up fast or not, last time I did I had to sit down with my hands over my face going 'oh FUCK' for a while, not sure if that's ideal haha
 
pennyj said:
Won't it just sit on the edges of the bottle/cup that way?

I'm not sure if I wanna come up fast or not, last time I did I had to sit down with my hands over my face going 'oh FUCK' for a while, not sure if that's ideal haha
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Dont swirl it, get a straw or something and stir it. Gel caps would be good, like Sam said, especially if you want to keep it from coming up too fast lol, I think you would be fine though.

Something I like to do with shrooms is open up chocolate candies and stick them in there, something like that might work for ya
 
I think most of the side effects you feel aren't necessarily from the cigarette paper. You wouldn't believe how quickly cigarette paper and toilet paper dissolve in stomach acid, dude.

I'd hazard a guess and say it's more from a quick onset of MDMA. Drugs that mess with your serotonin can do alot of things like nausea/vomiting, excess mucous (mushrooms ALWAYS make me phlegmy), muscle tension, gastrointestinal discomfort (gas/cramps) etc. I ALWAYS need to shit real bad when I take any serotonergic drugs, MDMA especially. That's how I know it's party-time. And I remember seeing someone on here talking about MDMA causing a release of cortisol (I think he said it's like 8 times normal levels on the come-up), the stress hormone, when you come up thus inducing anxiety in some that dissipates quickly.

-edit- I suppose a possible solution would help :p What I do when I want to avoid a rushy, intense come-up is just stagger 2 smaller doses. Instead of taking 120mg right away try splitting it into two and taking the 2nd one at +30 minutes after ingestion of the 1st. If you're mind is set on the papers causing the GI discomfort then either load into gel-caps or just throw that shit in your mouth as is :) It takes kinda nasty but the taste doesn't linger too long and you'll be getting a bit more out of your drugs by absorption in the mouth, bypassing your stomach acids.
 
Thanks Penthos. I think most of the uncomfort is just the md, and tbh when I need the bathroom I always know it's about to get good too...it's just annoying to then keep gagging for half an hour so I'm kinda hoping that IS the cigarette papers. I think next time I'll try spreading my first dose out and doing it a different way, and keep my fingers crossed.
 
Have you considered plugging?

Do a quick search and you'll see tons of posts and threads about this. . .

If bombing (parachuting) is something you're worried about that's one way to eliminate the issue. A lot of people are scared of this approach and it's certainly not convenient for public but . . . if you can keep an open mind it's worth trying.
 
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