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How big is your initial dose (typically)?

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EpicurusFire

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I'm starting to think I have a natural high tolerance, and I'm curious to compare initial doses with you guys. The first time I rolled, it was on E pills...I took 2 pills an hour apart from each other and I was in heaven all night. Since then all i've tried is molly, and I have to take at least 150mg to have a decent roll, and it doesn't even come close to comparing to the two pills the first time.

I've been going 180mg the past few times, with a finger dip or two later.

Background: Rolled about 10 times, most times separated by at least 1-2 months. Molly has been crystal shards, tested pure.
 
100mg will do me fine. That is, if it's fire mdma.

If I want to roll hard, 120-130mg. I never re dose, if I do though, I would up the original dose slightly


I don't see how come people can use >300mg in one night. To me that seems way overkill. Or maybe their mdma is not as pure or something.

[edit] I have also rolled close to 10 times in my life time. Never more than once a month. But I seem to have a low tolerance to a lot of drugs when I first use w/e substance.
 
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zzz101 said:
100mg will do me fine. If it's fire mdma.

If i want to roll hard, 120-130mg. I never re dose, if I do though, i would up the original dose slightly


I don't see how come people can use >300mg in one night. To me that seems way overkill. Or maybe their mdma is not as pure or something.

[edit] I have also rolled close to 10 times in my life time. Never more than once a month. But I seem to have a low tolerance to a lot of drugs when I first use a substance.
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See this is what I hear a lot. If I took 100mg however I don't think i'd feel much of anything. I kinda want to go over 200mg because i'd love to have a more intense roll but I keep hearing how you shouldn't take more than 200mg. Kinda sucks...then again maybe my shards just weren't that pure. I don't see how shards couldn't be pure though...powder of course can be cut but how can you tamper with the rocks themselves?
 
Anythings possible. Yeah it's harder to cut mdma crystal, but it also could be the way it's made as to how pure it is.
Though for sure, there is no way of knowing how pure the mdma is, unless you get it tested in a lab or something.

I also hear of many that - take more than 200mg to get rolling. To me this also seems WAY to much. And probably wont make much difference from a smaller dose. And personally, I wouldn't do that much at a time. Though everyone is different. Will be interesting to hear other opinions on this.
 
zzz101 said:
100mg will do me fine. That is, if it's fire mdma.

If I want to roll hard, 120-130mg. I never re dose, if I do though, I would up the original dose slightly


I don't see how come people can use >300mg in one night. To me that seems way overkill. Or maybe their mdma is not as pure or something.

[edit] I have also rolled close to 10 times in my life time. Never more than once a month. But I seem to have a low tolerance to a lot of drugs when I first use w/e substance.
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Hey this is interestesting, I always considered myself a low tolerance to mdma person also. But i take loads just to be absolutely floored lol but im not doing that anymore, but 100mg does me fine as you say yourself,

Ive been taking 150mgs though lmao , no more of that...
 
100 - 150MG seems to be the 'standard' - on saying that a lot of people seem to enjoy (best roll ever etc) on way less (pokeball when they first showed up).

When using MDMA I personally enjoy a higher initial dose and a smaller top up (or two).
 
I also consider myself naturally tolerant (160 lbs/fit)...it's always taken me more to get goin'.
When I used to get old legit pokeballs that were roughly 90mg mdma...1 and a half (135mg) would set me off pretty nice but taking only one (90mg) would be veerrry mild (yet pleasant) and go away quicker. I probably would have been capable of double dropping.

After the pokes i started getting verified low dose mdma pills...(people estimate 30mg maybe a little more) the first time i took 1 & 1/2 to be safe...all it gave me was edginess, nervousness, claminess, pupil dilation... took another an hour later...still didnt change.
Then a month later at an event...i douple dropped those same low dose pills felt like i was comin up good, felt nice for about 20 min thinkin it was going to get better. It dropped off flat. My friends had the same and were feeling nice. later that night we got 100mg molly...again, i felt like it was starting...and then it faded out...hit my friends a bit more than me but wasnt outstanding to anyone.
The problem there is having taken the 100mg molly a couple hours after taking a weak dose of pills. They ruined my ability to let down the flood gates. Even after the molly i tried 2 more of the weak pills...and i only mildly started feelin' anything.

Recently i got some low/med pills goin around again...double dropped, felt a strong comeup, everyone else started rolling good...but i ended up leveling out. Took another one asap- finally got rolling good.
I could easily triple drop those.

So yeah, i believe in natural tolerance. And i believe you should make your 1st dose the biggest.
Not only does it make you roll proper from the start...but the effects seem to last longer with higher doses. For me personally i think 130-150mg is what i need. Unfortunately I've never had a molly hook up to test this out precisely.

SIDE NOTE: there's been a couple times with the old pokeballs that i would start with 1 & 1/2 and redose with 1 & 1/2 ...and on the redose i completely got into a psychedelic mindstate, started hallucinating, falling into weird dreams when i closed my eyes etc... but, the person that took the same dose with me just had a normal good roll.
So, I find it kind of strange that i usually am more tolerant and require higher doses. But on a couple occasions, taking the same dose/redose has caused me to start trippin...but not anyone else.
 
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I also seem to have a high natural tolerance, despite only rolling a few times a year and being 6' and 145 lb. My friends go apeshit on 100-110 mg of the molly we've had for the past year, but I had never rolled hard off of it until NYE. I had taken doses of 130, 145, and 150 of the same stuff in the past. They were fun, of course, but I wasn't all the way "there," and I wasn't rolling for that long.

For NYE, I took 160 mg and also took piracetam a few hours beforehand. I also redosed with 60 mg 90 minutes later. Whether it was the piracetam or the increased dose, I definitely reached that magical threshold where I was undeniably rolling very nicely. I still only rolled for a couple hours, but I think that's just my metabolism.

So my advice would be to take piracetam and up your dose a little bit until you get to where you want to be. Just be sure to stay cool, drink water, get lots of sleep afterwards, etc.

Importantly, I would also add that E is nice to enjoy in moderate doses, too, particularly when you're not ina club/rave situation where you don't need a shit ton of energy. My rolling strategy henceforth will be to throw in a nice hard roll every once in a while, but the rest of the time just enjoy a medium-strengh roll.
 
120-130mg initial dose, with a 60mg booster about an hour after i come up to keep me up. I've only done 10pm-3am though, will be doing 10pm-6am on the 10th of feb so we'll see how that goes.

Would have done 10pm-6am at this thing called Bass Culture a couple of months ago on the 25th of November, but I got kicked out at about 11:30 while completely off my tits, and had to wait outside in the freezing cold for 5 hours while I was coming down because they took my bombs off me ofc.

Funnily enough being kicked out into the cold was more dangerous than being on MDMA in my opinion, especially seeing as I remember to drink about a pint of water each hour while dancing and I take regular breaks from dancing to go outside in the smoking area and make tonnes of MD friends.
 
150mg usually does me fine for hours if its good stuff. maybe 100mg re-dose if needed a few hours later
 
I tend to start with 150 mg or so and then use smaller booster doses later. Don't think 50-75 mg would do much for me...
 
The stuff in my area's starting to be less and less pure. I'm finding that I'm needing 140-160mg bombs to get going. I'm fairly certain it's a purity issue though. I think I'd be juuuust fine with a 100-120mg dose of pure.
 
I start with .120, then add .060 about 1 1/2 to 2 hours into it. No more later. Rarely do I have trouble sleeping or dealing with the next day, as long as I take it slow and have lots to smoke.
 
I also want to add that with the post (above), I just hit 50 posts and should now no longer be regarded as some novice "greenlighter." With it taking just a bit short of NINE YEARS to reach bluelighter status, this MUST be some sort of record for the slowest entry into full citizenship in the Bluelight community.
 
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