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A Few Quick simple-ish questions I could use help on please. Thanks to all who try.

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I have read a lot about all these "cuts" basically for mdma but in an attempt to save time and the fact that I'm almost 100% sure it's pure Molly just play along..

- me and my g/f did some the last 2 days in row but mind you all year we hadn't , but last night the high was a let down (I wasn't really looking to do it yet anyway wanted to save it).

Anyway tomorrow is christmas and we'll have the house mostly to ourselves , I know you should wait longer and all but odds are we'll do it because I'd rather do this than drink anyday.

-Is there anything we can do like body cleansing or something to give us better odds at least of having a great time again tomorrow? ( I drink green tea 3 times a day and take a multi-vitamin with ALA and get all my aminos plus have protein shakes and work out also take milk thistle , a vitamin b complex which has niacin and other b vitamins , omega 3 with dha and epa .

- Would taking it on an empty stomach help ?

Also it is powder and its 5 "bags" worth of molly in 1 bag big bag ( usually 1 bag= 3 hits or so ) .. how much should we take ?

mind you these are those plastic little want to be zip lock bags and they're the 20 bags for weed usually , the normal 1s we get are the bottom full and fat of molly this 1 is a much bigger fatter bag ... anyway we can tell?



Lastly , When we take it we should take as much as REASONABLY capable assuming we figure out a way to say ok this won't OD us...or should we do a good amount wait and then add to it or would that waste it really ?


Mind you we are trying to roll as hard as possible with these variables and time restraints unfortunately lol.

Thanks for any help really and I'm sure I come off a little dumb but it's hard to describe a bag and we don't have a scale anymore sooo..I did my best for the moment if I come up with any thing to make these questions easier to answer I will gladly edit and I am very sorry if this was annoying to anyone .
 
The minimum wait time is recommended at 30 days (most evidence indicates more is optimal- even up to 90) to cut that wait time down to a matter of days is a very very bad idea. You will not "roll" chances are, and if you do it will be lacking and result in brain zaps: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/510614-Fucking-brain-zaps-help and other effects a lack of serotonin has on the brain.

I'd really recommend saving it for a time where your body is not starved of serotonin already. You'll have other times together- if it's during the summer, wait until then.

MDMA is not something to play with until you feel the negative effects, depletion of a vital neurochemical has some horrendous risks, including death.

Ultimately, you wont roll like you would if you waited it out, so why not save it?
 
Bsiren said:
Ultimately, you wont roll like you would if you waited it out, so why not save it?
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Thanks every1 so far obviously not what I wish to hear but this doesnt explain how I did this last year spaced out minorly .. maybe it wasn't legit then (variable you all cannot help me with lol)

- I know you're right and I sound horrible but really hate pretty much all other things weed makes me paranoid , hate drinking ... she won't do acid..think I can convince her haha?

- if I end up being an idiot and ignoring advice I begged for that has been informative and I do roll what does that mean? (and I'll post it just for reference?)
 
Also thank you for the warnings also every1 much appreciated , I heard somewhere on here that a lot of people believe 2 weeks is enough time and I noticed a post by you Brisen I believe where you were proving it's really 30-90 days , why is it believed differently among every1? Is it really just to do it asap ?
 
The 30-90 day rule comes from multiple extensive studies including Alex Shulgins very own work. Serotonin has been studied extensively for years- as it applies to MDMA is a specific thing, but 30 days seems to be an actual bare minimum rather than "safe". You can certainly break these rules in the beginning and get away with it before your brain responds to the abuse- I myself was guilty of rolling 3x a month for the first 6 months of my MDMA use.

I am sure there is some slight variety in individuals recovery time, if you and I get identical cuts on our hands, chances are we will heal at similar rates, but it won't be exactly the same.
 
Bsiren said:
The 30-90 day rule comes from multiple extensive studies including Alex Shulgins very own work. Serotonin has been studied extensively for years- as it applies to MDMA is a specific thing, but 30 days seems to be an actual bare minimum rather than "safe". You can certainly break these rules in the beginning and get away with it before your brain responds to the abuse- I myself was guilty of rolling 3x a month for the first 6 months of my MDMA use.

I am sure there is some slight variety in individuals recovery time, if you and I get identical cuts on our hands, chances are we will heal at similar rates, but it won't be exactly the same.
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I understand that much and thanks for more insight , I know what you mean with the whole variable idea like your example a cut we could do everything similar but there's still variables you cannot fully control in that study and the scarring would be different .

My thing was just how I had done what you had just said the guilty of rolling 3x a month for the 1st 6 months..

I'm aware it gets dangerous though every little thing I can find out I do appreciate it doesn't hurt but I was more worried about just would we get high ..I could handle the danger part short term at least .. this is starting to sound pathetic but I was really asking as well if I could just still get high lol

I'm going to google the Alex Shulgins research very interesting anything with the brain can be tough for the most part so the more we can understand the better .
 
Also probably won't take this again for awhile thank you , was wondering I read a list of basically the MDMA diet on here?

Would you approve of most the things on there I heard some negative things about 5-htp and your dopamine levels ?
 
As a former E-Tard myself, I can definitely say that waiting is necessary to have a good roll

one week is the MINIMUM if you say come across some great product and a great venue to roll at, with some hot bitches, you feel me?


I would personally recommend one month in between rolls, that seems to give people enough time to recover while not being an unbearably long time



Oh and 5-HTP is a no go, look for L-Tryptophan or piracetram
 
thanks for the advice as well folley . Probably going to wait a week n clean out see what happens , see the other problem is molly is rare here and its quality is getting worse and my pockets are emptying with my girl here and my job closed for good I had money saved and bought this so when it seems like I'm rushing to do it there's many reasons lol
 
Oh believe me I know how it can be lol, I rolled weekly for 6+ months..


If your last dose was underwhelming, dont be afraid to take a higher dose. Im sure the stuff you have is probably cut down (isnt it all these days?), so if you were taking 100mgs before I would go with 200mgs, maybe even with another 100mg redose in there somewhere


Since the last time you REALLY rolled was a year ago, having a night where you go all out on .5 of molly wont be TOO bad, as long as you do it safely of course :)
 
Folley said:
Oh believe me I know how it can be lol, I rolled weekly for 6+ months..


If your last dose was underwhelming, dont be afraid to take a higher dose. Im sure the stuff you have is probably cut down (isnt it all these days?), so if you were taking 100mgs before I would go with 200mgs, maybe even with another 100mg redose in there somewhere


Since the last time you REALLY rolled was a year ago, having a night where you go all out on .5 of molly wont be TOO bad, as long as you do it safely of course :)
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that's exactly what I was thinking and finally found a real good trust worthy connect and well I have 1 sad problem .. size wise in powder I don't even know how much 100mgs 200mgs 300 mgs would look like I just know how much should be in a bag but I want to do 200 mgs n give my gf 100mgs at least .

I literally am asking how the heck do I tell how much is that much so I can just do it like a pill really and just take it with confidence of exactly how much i took


Use to get caps from well long story but capsules of mdma or pills of E that were really here pop this .. lol

it's more about I want to have an idea like if I poured sugar/salt in a line the same way I could molly 200mgs would be 4 iches? and look like a yay line width wise lol ?
 
Thats a bit sketchy lol... luckily MDMA isnt TOO potent, so its not like if you take an extra 50mgs your going to die


I would just split the remaining amount of powder into caps, then try and guestimate the amount in there, but thats wont give you any kind of an accurate dose


a yayo line would probably be a bit too big, but not TOO big, you could probably just do it and get really fucked up lol
 
Folley said:
Thats a bit sketchy lol... luckily MDMA isnt TOO potent, so its not like if you take an extra 50mgs your going to die


I would just split the remaining amount of powder into caps, then try and guestimate the amount in there, but thats wont give you any kind of an accurate dose


a yayo line would probably be a bit too big, but not TOO big, you could probably just do it and get really fucked up lol
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ight thanks man I knew how much I should get for the most part ( add in the fact its been rare here until recent ) so I bought what I could after testing it then it dawned on me I never had so much powder it could kill me in my hands that wasn't yay lol so I was looking for way to guess but not kill myself haha
 
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