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Why social normas suck

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with introspective thread titles like, "Should I replace my girlfriend? And if so, how?", "Why should we respect women?" and "bored by female orgasm", it's a wonder to me why beautiful, well-rounded, affectionate women aren't fawning all over you.

It's not my way of thinking which is a problem, it's just the surroundings and current social norms.

In this moment I am sitting with 50 girls around studying. It would be creepy to go there and interrupt and bother them. Then after when they are out of the building they're most likely with their female friends and again it's unconvenient to talk to them. And if they are alone going home, I don't want to scare them. (Actually I once had a similar situation where the girl was screaming on the street after I said just 'Hi!')
And during the night most of them don't go partying, or if they do they still have even higher bitch shields and the music in clubs is way too loud so you cannot really ask all the questions and check efficiently if the person is right for you or not. And in the gym it's again strange to disturb the people doing their training. In restaurants they are already with their bf's or friends. In metro people are usually tired and in their own world. By the way, the communication is limited by the duration of the ride. And other venues are not mutually shared (I don't visit hairdressers, manicures, tanning saloons...).
So there is NO CHANCE you can meet anyone without investing A LOT of time and then once you invest time in just the first person that came along you are stuck with all their bullshit and the only solution is to stay or eventually throw everything out the window and again be criticized by society and family as a poor, unsuccessful single. And beside have nothing to show off.

The problem here is society and lack of more fluid interaction with people. It should be normal for someone to approach you and ask immediately "What is your hottest sex fantasy?". What's wrong with that? If that happened to me I would take it as normal and even feel flattered that someone's intrested in me. Who the hell invented all that 'norms' what is polite and not? (You bastards! Or your parents or anyone who formed the general culture before)
Hell I would even prefer someone pointing a knife at me on the street than seeing people walking around like zombies and me having desire to talk to them but don't know how to do it 'appropriately'.

So you can see that the other side, "my soulmate", has a lot of bargaining power here, and I personally don't like that. That's why I would prefer a robot, a slave or whatever as long as it satisfies my needs and is approved by the community or authorities.

Why online dating and Facebook should be declared as the only mean of meeting and social interaction? (Yesterday there were 10 girls in the bus and 9 of them had their cell phones in hands browsing Facebook!!!)
Profiles should be detailed and written and approved by MDs after at least a week of hospital-level testing and lying detectors.
All data like financial statements, family history, life and employment history and such should be uploaded there automatically by relevant institutions and be PUBLICLY available. Systems should be developed to monitor real-time wants and preferences of an individual and upload them there on your profile. The whole thing should be regualted by authorities and files opened automatically on birth. Then it would be just a matter od seconds to satisfy our cravings and know if what we want exists and to what extent. In today's world we don't have time to waste on getting to know each other, what everyone should crave for is their satisfaction now and immediately!!
 
so that's what it's like to be in the mind of those weirdos you see in the corner of the library/bus/food court/whatever public place

thank you for this startling insight theredone, thank you indeed
 
Yeah I think like that too, (except for the obvious idolisation of females in your first sentence) but then I thought I'm an organic molecular robot whos only alive for a few decades in the infinite of time, and so are girls.

Disconnected, unable to connect to ANYONE, let alone girls, and unable to figure out how.
(My father was a traveling con artist, so we moved constantly from town to town, connection with society during my childhood was therefore impossible, until I left home. So Im self taught in functioning in society)

So go talk to them whenever, don't worry about bothering them, as they are thinking the same thing.

Eg; Just walk up to girls and ask for sex, in a good way.

Girls want to fuck too ya know, and I guarantee you'll get a large enough percentage saying yes.

Now if you can do that for sex, first step, then continue on to just talking to them normal like a guy, a guy you want to have sex with, without thinking about the fact that they are girls, or the fact that they have two holes instead of the one that your friends all have.

Eventually after lots of sex one nighters and relationships, you'll become confident enough to have and keep a girlfriend, and reject and be a dick to all the other girls who will be trying on you.
That's fun, and your GF will think its cool too, as long as you treat her like a princess, and other girls like dirt.

That's how you get back at all the girls for ignoring you and shitting on you when you used to be shy and unsure of yourself.
Though the funny thing is, even though I can have virtually any girl around me right now, and I seem to be a super confident jerk woman baiter, I actually feel just like you inside even now, I just am too smart and experienced to show this to anyone except my GF, after enough time passed for me to trust her!


Disclaimer; I do not encourage illegal activities nor abusing women, take my advice as it was given, MY personal experience which may not be true for you, nor nice, nor possible unoffensive to delicate flowers.

Have fun and don't feel like the way you do.
 
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Wow. The second half of the OP reads like some kind of 21st century Holden Caulfield rant.

People don't need some kind of authority figure to keep track and make public all of their deepest inner thoughts and desires. That's a basic right of personal privacy that goes beyond the scope even governments or religions to regulate. The fact that you would suggest something so bizarre indicates to me you have a hard time navigating the social waters of the world and wish there was some kind of cheat code to help you peel through the layers of social interaction and the subtle cues and meanings you're afraid of missing during them.

Social interaction with the opposite sex is like anything else in the world: Some people are naturally good at it and the rest of us need to practice to become good at it. Constructing this elaborate fantasy of a world where you can simply look up what a female desires so you know ahead of time if if you suffice, all so you can avoid the potential for rejection, isn't going to do you any good in the real world.
 
theredone said:
In today's world we don't have time to waste on getting to know each other...
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in common with many people, i find the 'getting to know someone' phase of a relationship very exciting and far from a waste of time...
theredone said:
what everyone should...
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i think 'what everyone should' or should not do is best left to the individual in question.

alasdair
 
GenericMind said:
Wow. The second half of the OP reads like some kind of 21st century Holden Caulfield rant.

People don't need some kind of authority figure to keep track and make public all of their deepest inner thoughts and desires. That's a basic right of personal privacy that goes beyond the scope even governments or religions to regulate. The fact that you would suggest something so bizarre indicates to me you have a hard time navigating the social waters of the world and wish there was some kind of cheat code to help you peel through the layers of social interaction and the subtle cues and meanings you're afraid of missing during them.

Social interaction with the opposite sex is like anything else in the world: Some people are naturally good at it and the rest of us need to practice to become good at it. Constructing this elaborate fantasy of a world where you can simply look up what a female desires so you know ahead of time if if you suffice, all so you can avoid the potential for rejection, isn't going to do you any good in the real world.
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It seemed to me that he wanted simplification, and then proposed an unworkable idea for the implementation of that simplification.

That doesnt mean the idea of simplification itself is bad, imagine for example a world where noone could lie, just as in that movie, simple.
 
alasdairm said:
in common with many people, i find the 'getting to know someone' phase of a relationship very exciting and far from a waste of time...
alasdair
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You mean the part where you first hook up with a new girl?
True, I never feel more horny and fun then when with a new girl.

alasdairm said:
i think 'what everyone should' or should not do is best left to the individual in question.
alasdair
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Agree.
 
Africanus said:
It seemed to me that he wanted simplification, and then proposed an unworkable idea for the implementation of that simplification.
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I wish the stock market were more simple and someone told me what stocks I could buy for a guaranteed 100% return. That's not going to happen though.

That doesnt mean the idea of simplification itself is bad, imagine for example a world where noone could lie, just as in that movie, simple.
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I can imagine a lot of things that aren't realistic. In the real world those imaginations do me zero good.
 
GenericMind said:
I wish the stock market were more simple and someone told me what stocks I could buy for a guaranteed 100% return. That's not going to happen though.



I can imagine a lot of things that aren't realistic. In the real world those imaginations do me zero good.
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All true.
But I never denied that.

I would like it if the stockmarket was simple, and I think it should be, but as you said, I dont waste my time worry about what could be.

But I think the OP wasnt serious about his proposed simplification, to me, he sounded like he was airing a frustration, not a concrete idea.
 
Africanus said:
All true.
But I never denied that.

I would like it if the stockmarket was simple, and I think it should be, but as you said, I dont waste my time worry about what could be.

But I think the OP wasnt serious about his proposed simplification, to me, he sounded like he was airing a frustration, not a concrete idea.
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Either way, what I was saying was that addressing his disillusionment with the way society works by simply complaining about it and fantasizing about radical and unrealistic alternatives isn't going to do him any good. His post indicates he has a goal(to meet a girl) and if he wants to do that, he's going to have to accept he'll have to do it on society's terms not his.
 
there also seems to be a pretty healthy dose of blaming others for his own failures and not taking responsibility for his own success and happiness. to me, that's always a huge red flag and nothing's going to change as long as it's always somebody else's fault...

alasdair
 
Can we please keep the misogynistic rants to one thread? Thanks. Bump the other thread if you have more insight on females and vaginas, so we can ignore one thread instead of multiple ones.
 
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