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Benzo Discussion Vol. 2
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jancrow
Bluelighter
Etizolam isn't really an RC in the sense of being an emerging and largely untested chemical, it's just being sold in some of the same places as emerging chemicals. I think it is actually prescribed in some countries. Either way it is more CNS depression on top of other things of a similar ilk so probably not best practice.
Jancrow, I stand corrected, having checked the tinterweb it would appear to have been around since at least the early 90's and has several trade names. Having never bothered to take any I'd not bothered to check...my bad
You learn something new every day, many thanks
You learn something new every day, many thanks
jancrow
Bluelighter
Hey no problem atm, I probably only corrected you because I avoid 'RCs' but am a fairly big etizofan. It's extremely overpriced when sold alongside the blends and the botches but the brand names are the way to go. Works really well for me.
^^ jancrow, hello how you doing? I'm a bit of a fan of etizalom as well, pricey on the rc sites! But they don't kick my ass the same as Diaz, which is a good thing! I also find I tend not to blackout and munch them all in one go!
jancrow
Bluelighter
Alright Mr Tek, how you doing? I could do with some downers myself as I am about to embark on a festive shopping excursion, but I'm mainly good thanks.
I took a fair bit of etiz and diaz over the last year (not at the same time) and I definitely found diaz more likely to result in where-the-hell-did-they-go syndrome. Also found etizolam more of a mood lifter with a bit of euphoria but mainly the first few times. I know my diaz were legit, they were mainly HK pharma and very bloody nice. I think diaz is a better muscle relaxant for me overall. I know at least one person with a long term benzo script didn't really get much from the etizolam wheras diaz in equivalent doses (1mg etiz / 10mg diaz approx) still works for him.
I took a fair bit of etiz and diaz over the last year (not at the same time) and I definitely found diaz more likely to result in where-the-hell-did-they-go syndrome. Also found etizolam more of a mood lifter with a bit of euphoria but mainly the first few times. I know my diaz were legit, they were mainly HK pharma and very bloody nice. I think diaz is a better muscle relaxant for me overall. I know at least one person with a long term benzo script didn't really get much from the etizolam wheras diaz in equivalent doses (1mg etiz / 10mg diaz approx) still works for him.
I'm doing ok thanks jancrow! Don't get me wrong I do really like Diaz, I get mine off someone who is scripted so I know they are the real deal, but like you said, I come round and am like where the fuck did they all go! Then I'm left with a really heavy groggy feeling the next day!
Etizolam is different for me, like you said it gives me a little mood lift and euphoria, I'm sure I could get that from Diaz if I could control myself and not eat soany that I blackout! For some reason I'm much more disciplined with etizalom!
This doesn't count as sourcing I don't think but do you get yours from the uk or abroad?
Mods feel free to edit if thats too close to the mark!
Etizolam is different for me, like you said it gives me a little mood lift and euphoria, I'm sure I could get that from Diaz if I could control myself and not eat soany that I blackout! For some reason I'm much more disciplined with etizalom!
This doesn't count as sourcing I don't think but do you get yours from the uk or abroad?
Mods feel free to edit if thats too close to the mark!
Eitazolam was pretty prime as a hypnotic, better than almost everything (maybe not nitraz / temaz). Then again I don't have a heinous tolerance any more so 1-3mg was enough to make me gorgeously tired and mildly euphoric.
Pity it's so expensive.
Pity it's so expensive.
jancrow
Bluelighter
You want to broaden your search, x89, you can get them for +-30p each in small batches. Etilaam brand works well for me but someone I spoke to somewhere says he reckons his were bunk. No idea what his benzo history was, which looks like it might have played a part.
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Hmmm given my current Diaz habit and the ease of getting cheap ones that do thejob I'd kinda ignored Eitazolam I know there been lots of discussion but it would help you could answer a few simple questions if poss.
1.) Is there cross tolerance with a standard benzo like Diaz (I'm guessing so but feeling lazy this early!), in many ways this would be good thing as I don't want WDs from Diaz twice in a month. long story and may have a bit of stock gap coming....again.
2.) I like Diaz as I can function normally at quite a high dose (although I do have stupid tolerance at the mo) as long s I don't go over board is Eitazolam the same?
3.) Does it have th same effect on anxiety that Diaz has , how do the 2 compare effects wise
thanks for any help and apologies for the lazy post but it is 7am, and even though I 'm not working "I can't get no sleep"
1.) Is there cross tolerance with a standard benzo like Diaz (I'm guessing so but feeling lazy this early!), in many ways this would be good thing as I don't want WDs from Diaz twice in a month. long story and may have a bit of stock gap coming....again.
2.) I like Diaz as I can function normally at quite a high dose (although I do have stupid tolerance at the mo) as long s I don't go over board is Eitazolam the same?
3.) Does it have th same effect on anxiety that Diaz has , how do the 2 compare effects wise
thanks for any help and apologies for the lazy post but it is 7am, and even though I 'm not working "I can't get no sleep"
jancrow
Bluelighter
SORRY KATE, thought that was OK but bow to your enmodulation. x
1) Yes, same receptors are involved afaik but others will know more about this
2) It depends what you mean by high dose. I think that etiz gives me less compulsion to redose than diaz. What Acidtek says about being more responsible with etizolam rings true with me although I couldn't possibly explain why.
3) Shitipedia says that etiz has 'six times the anxiolytic effect' of diaz but I haven't seen anything to back that up and that's not how it feels subjectively (and how this could be measured is beyond me). Subjectively, onset seems about the same, half life / duration less. Euphoria / mood lift seems a bit greater. I believe that the half life is much much shorter than diaz, I think it may be in single figures. I guess that this could potentially cause quite significant problems if someone acclimatised to diaz (ok, addicted) was using etiz as a straight pill-for-pill replacement. I don't think it works as well as a muscle relaxant and I think that I get more of a feeling of glowy contentedness from diaz but these are just suspicions of my own and seeing as these drugs both play havoc with my memory in the right doses that's all they can be.
3b) At least one person I know with long term benzo tolerance has reported not getting much out of etiz (although they only tried it once).
1) Yes, same receptors are involved afaik but others will know more about this
2) It depends what you mean by high dose. I think that etiz gives me less compulsion to redose than diaz. What Acidtek says about being more responsible with etizolam rings true with me although I couldn't possibly explain why.
3) Shitipedia says that etiz has 'six times the anxiolytic effect' of diaz but I haven't seen anything to back that up and that's not how it feels subjectively (and how this could be measured is beyond me). Subjectively, onset seems about the same, half life / duration less. Euphoria / mood lift seems a bit greater. I believe that the half life is much much shorter than diaz, I think it may be in single figures. I guess that this could potentially cause quite significant problems if someone acclimatised to diaz (ok, addicted) was using etiz as a straight pill-for-pill replacement. I don't think it works as well as a muscle relaxant and I think that I get more of a feeling of glowy contentedness from diaz but these are just suspicions of my own and seeing as these drugs both play havoc with my memory in the right doses that's all they can be.
3b) At least one person I know with long term benzo tolerance has reported not getting much out of etiz (although they only tried it once).
brimz
Bluelighter
make that 2.
mind i just come across 180 5mg eu diaz n 60 eu lormetazepam for next to nowt
Tripman
Bluelight Crew
Make that 3.
I took 30mg etizolam post a 120mg diazepam, 12-30mg alprazolam and 2mg flunitrazepam daily habit and I got nothing from the eti...
I took 30mg etizolam post a 120mg diazepam, 12-30mg alprazolam and 2mg flunitrazepam daily habit and I got nothing from the eti...
Tripman
Bluelight Crew
It wasn't a binge. I was prescribed 12mg xanax, 120mg diazepam and 2mg flunitrazepam daily for months.
Tripman
Bluelight Crew
Yeah truth to be told my tolerance was ridiculous. Years of being prescribed every benzo on the market. Nimetazepam will stay forever my favourite.
Clean now though, had to taper with 20mg clonazepam and 300mg pregabalin daily to survive...
Clean now though, had to taper with 20mg clonazepam and 300mg pregabalin daily to survive...
^^ I'm not surprised you didn't get much from it after a binge like that! I think you were possibly expecting too much, lol
120mgs of Diaz is a pretty normal week day dose surely
, if TM wanted to add in a couple of bits to live'un it up a bit its must have been a weekend.
wish I had access to more exotic benzos....then again probably for the best!