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What are you currently reading? v2

when I'm out of my epic bath sesh, I'll post the intro for you to read. it doesnt explain the book's intent, but does place a bit of context.

I'm flicking thru it right now while splish-splashing and it's a really good book for that kind of reading and doesn't have to be read in a linear fashion

weirdly, as soon as I picked it up the other day I immediately thought about the painting below by Marcus Harvey, and that it had a similar kinda feel, and whilst flicking thru I just came across the commentary he makes about that exact piece, and it pretty much echoes my own thoughts about the palarva surrounding it to the letter

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Marmalade said:
which book were you quoting?
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I was quoting Selfish, Little.

That's one sexy volume you've got there! Seminal Sotos, some of which I haven't read.

As for trusting him, he's deliberately perverse and beyond ambiguous. He's definitely not a paedophile but he reveres childhood in a sometimes-creepy way. I'm trying to fish out his quote about a young girl he knows, but the upshot is 'she must be protected from filth and evil'.

He acknowledges the ascension of the new pornography in media fetishisation of paedophilia. Check out his riposte to Sara Payne's campaigning:
Peter Sotos said:
“Mothers like you start sucking cock, in the pejorative sense, soon after you let the press comfort and then define you.”
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Then again, he complains that his cock is cut to ribbons because he likes to masturbate while wrapping tabloid stories about abused children around it.

Not an easy read, but a rewarding one.

knockando said:
Maybe it's an artistic device, meaning subordinated to impression.
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Yep. The very foundation of literature, 'show, don't tell'. Such an old chestnut that it's beginning to rot and stink. Though it still holds true.
 
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Philip K Dick - Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch....again, I'm re-reading allot of his books of late I think you could just print this one on a mobius loop and still not really fully understand it !
 
Marmalade said:
when I'm out of my epic bath sesh, I'll post the intro for you to read. it doesnt explain the book's intent, but does place a bit of context.

I'm flicking thru it right now while splish-splashing and it's a really good book for that kind of reading and doesn't have to be read in a linear fashion

weirdly, as soon as I picked it up the other day I immediately thought about the painting below by Marcus Harvey, and that it had a similar kinda feel, and whilst flicking thru I just came across the commentary he makes about that exact piece, and it pretty much echoes my own thoughts about the palarva surrounding it to the letter

Marcus-Harvey-Myra.jpg
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That picture and the associated photo are so iconic yet of you see other picture of her at the time they look nothing like that ?
 
atm23 said:
Philip K Dick - Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch....again, I'm re-reading allot of his books of late I think you could just print this one on a mobius loop and still not really fully understand it !
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VALIS comes to mind. Stunning.
 
SamhainGrim said:
I was quoting Selfish, Little.

As for trusting him, he's deliberately perverse and beyond ambiguous. He's definitely not a paedophile but he reveres childhood in a sometimes-creepy way. I'm trying to fish out his quote about a young girl he knows, but the upshot is 'she must be protected from filth and evil'.

He acknowledges the ascension of the new pornography in media fetishisation of paedophilia. Check out his riposte to Sara Payne's campaigning:

Then again, he complains that his cock is cut to ribbons because he likes to masturbate while wrapping tabloid stories about abused children around it.

Not an easy read, but a rewarding one.
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yeah. thoroughness and reality and 1st person perspective = great understanding and if it's well intentioned, really hits the mark for me. I'm not convinced he isn't speaking from first person experience and knowledge tho, tbh [and I don't think it devalues what he writes if he is, quite the opposite], but i do have trust in his intent now after reading some more. he's got the benefit of my doubt now however it appears on the surface

SamhainGrim said:
The very foundation of literature, 'show, don't tell'. Such an old chestnut that it's beginning to rot and stink. Though it still holds true.
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<3 and agree muchly x 100. it's the device I identify with the most. and 'agenda-free, lo direction' info really does strike a cord with me more than any other kind. [edit] I know it's not agenda free, but it's a 'present everything, warts n all and let people decide for themselves' approach. it has faith in humans in other words
 
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YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
Have you ever thought of joining up Dan or just prefer to read about war?
It would be interesting to read the Iraqis views of the battle and the civilians caught up in the cross fire to see how they contrast.
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thought about it when i was younger, but quickly decided against it. find it fascinating, read books and watched lots of documentarys about various wars... although the older i get, the more socially aware ive become over the years and the more i realize about the fucked up cruel nature of humanity and how pointless war is, how much money is spent on it, and the aftermath etc, i realize its just a very disgusting pointless destructive thing, and im losing interest

Apache by Ed Macy is also worth a read, those pilots are amazing!

yeah would definitely be interesting to read from the perspective of civillians and the iraq views, we only hear one side

the fitness side of the army also facinates me, and what soliders can endure. i assume you're interested in wars and history?
 
SamhainGrim said:
Yep. The very foundation of literature, 'show, don't tell'. Such an old chestnut that it's beginning to rot and stink. Though it still holds true.
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Of course, of course, I'm not really a complete philistine. My failure to respond to this impression is just that, not a general failure ;) Maybe it's just not for me.
 
Not at all .. every century there are a few people who help mankind to evolve. This woman was one of them!. Only women hating psychos would say such a thing knockando....
 
YellowPolkaDotHalo said:
Not at all .. every century there are a few people who help mankind to evolve. This woman was one of them!. Only women hating psychos would say such a thing knockando....
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I'm quoting this from someone else quoting her, I can only assume it's accurate!

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Pregnancy is confirmation that the woman has been fucked: it is confirmation that she has a cunt . . . The display marks her as a whore . . . Her belly is proof that she has been used. Her belly is his phallic triumph . . . The pregnancy is punishment for her participation in sex. She will get sick, her body will go wrong in a thousand different ways, she will die. The sexual excitement is in her possible death . . . And now, the doctors have added more sex--to birth itself . . . They cut directly into the uterus with a knife-- a surgical fuck.

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The pornographers rank with Nazis and Klansmen in promoting hatred and violence.

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Romance is rape embellished with meaningful looks

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Male sexuality, drunk on its intrinsic contempt for all life

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In seduction, the rapist bothers to buy a bottle of wine
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Admittedly, this is out of all context.
 
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